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You can have strong beliefs and still struggle with complying with the "rules" not everyone is perfect or anyway near it.
She showed no sign of any sort of problem with homosexuals apart from a statement about not believing in gay marriage, something even some homosexuals don't agree with either. So calling her a bigot is at best unkind. We all cherry pick because none of the holy books are instruction books, we have to interpret what they mean to us. |
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It is her views on gay marriage that are the problem, and people can dress it up as they like but that is where Danielle and Catholics in general come in for so much nastiness, in a way that the same people would not dare talk about a muslim. Danielle is not responsible for the issues that people have with the catholic faith.
She summed it up over the webcam thing. Her point being you can do lingerie and still lead a Christian life, and not sleep around. |
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You can have strong beliefs and still struggle with complying with the "rules" not everyone is perfect or anyway near it.
She showed no sign of any sort of problem with homosexuals apart from a statement about not believing in gay marriage, something even some homosexuals don't agree with either. So calling her a bigot is at best unkind. We all cherry pick because none of the holy books are instruction books, we have to interpret what they mean to us. https://twitter.com/CLASSICFOX/statu...0773019062272/ |
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![]() EDIT: There are tweets on there from when she was in the house - is it someone looking after her profile, or a fake profile? Not too good with Twitter, me! |
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Sorry but i can't buy that.
Would a Vegan work in a butchers ? Or an anti capitalist work for a bank ? or an Environmentalist work for a logging firm or oil company? If you have strong "morals" or "beliefs" you wouldn't do a job that goes totally against them. Would you ? |
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She actually said she believes every marriage performed outside a Catholic church is invalid. Unfortunately, BB cut away right at that moment to show some bs with Helen in another room. It's a shame, because THAT would've made for a far more interesting conversation than the bit they showed. It also would've been one of the few conversations in the house involving Marlon that didn't involve sluts, sleeping or bad rapping with Winston, so doubly a shame.
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Surely she is entitled to her own opinions ? I don't agree with her but she is entitled to believe and to a point say what she wants.
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That second one is.... wow
![]() EDIT: There are tweets on there from when she was in the house - is it someone looking after her profile, or a fake profile? Not too good with Twitter, me! Her official website links to it http://www.daniellemcmahon.com/aboutme.asp http://www.danielle-mcmahon.co.uk/aboutme.asp And her other twitter account is the Imogen character she used to play on BlueBird TV https://twitter.com/imogenbb http://lic.me/search/?p=6&s=imogen&pp=16 Quote:
Surely she is entitled to her own opinions ? I don't agree with her but she is entitled to believe and to a point say what she wants.
"She showed no sign of any sort of problem with homosexuals apart from a statement about not believing in gay marriage, something even some homosexuals don't agree with either. So calling her a bigot is at best unkind." |
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Wow Photoshop really is Danielle McMahons friend. She looked nothing like that in the BB house.
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It's her official twitter. Yes, someone was looking after it whilst she was in the house.
Her official website links to it http://www.daniellemcmahon.com/aboutme.asp http://www.danielle-mcmahon.co.uk/aboutme.asp And her other twitter account is the Imogen character she used to play on BlueBird TV https://twitter.com/imogenbb http://lic.me/search/?p=6&s=imogen&pp=16 Yes, of course she is. I only posted those links in response to what you said.... "She showed no sign of any sort of problem with homosexuals apart from a statement about not believing in gay marriage, something even some homosexuals don't agree with either. So calling her a bigot is at best unkind." |
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Sorry but i can't buy that.
Would a Vegan work in a butchers ? Or an anti capitalist work for a bank ? or an Environmentalist work for a logging firm or oil company? If you have strong "morals" or "beliefs" you wouldn't do a job that goes totally against them. Would you ? |
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I think it's called having your cake and eating it. Or, slightly skewed morals..
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Wow Photoshop really is Danielle McMahons friend. She looked nothing like that in the BB house.
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I'm sorry, I know a lot of strict Catholics who got pregnant at 15. You can still have those beliefs and do things that nigh go against your religion, specifically as there is such thing as confession...
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I'm sorry, I know a lot of strict Catholics who got pregnant at 15. You can still have those beliefs and do things that nigh go against your religion, specifically as there is such thing as confession...
Absoutely agree. However, to do that and then berate others for doing it - that's bound to draw fire. |
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What are you talking about ? she hasn't committed adultery .
(she hasn't murdered anyone either ) . |
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After watching her on BBots, got to agree now,
She's just not worth the time to list what a total hypocrite she was. No sorry - her judgements were pretty much the worst in there considering her so called 'higher morals' were no more than 'a job' |
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I have said time and again every year I judge on behaviour in the house what she does outside is not my business. If I judged on what people did before and after my opinions would be different many times.
Someone's value system is way more important to me than many of the behaviours they might effect for viewers purposes. Nick Griffin didn't seem like a racist **** on Question Time. Didn't mean I fell for anything he said or took him 'on face value'. |
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I think the bigots are the ones who clearly can't tolerate Christian beliefs, or anyone who having views they don't agree with.
I don't agree with Danielle's views on gay marriage, but I don't hold it against her, she is entitled to her opinion, and it is wrong to start the name calling because of it. |
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I think the bigots are the ones who clearly can't tolerate Christian beliefs, or anyone who having views they don't agree with.
I don't agree with Danielle's views on gay marriage, but I don't hold it against her, she is entitled to her opinion, and it is wrong to start the name calling because of it. |
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I think the bigots are the ones who clearly can't tolerate Christian beliefs, or anyone who having views they don't agree with.
I don't agree with Danielle's views on gay marriage, but I don't hold it against her, she is entitled to her opinion, and it is wrong to start the name calling because of it. Secondly, the issue isn't simply her beliefs. I've lost count of how many times this has now been repeated. It's how someone so staunch that they believe in creationism and are against gay marriage, someone so coy that she cried about sex talk and being given a Bloody Mary, doesn't have a similarly strict view about a career in which the purpose is to arouse men. You don't even need to be a staunch Catholic to find that a risqué career. But she is staunch, as we were reminded BY HER over and over and over. Can you seriously not see the inherent contradiction? |
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The thing that makes me sad about Danielle is that I don't think she is even playing a role I think she genuinely has no idea who she is!
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Firstly, there's nothing religious in calling someone a "poof" or saying "step out of the closet you freak". That's not doctrine, it's bigotry. There's also nothing in Catholicism to say that it's OK for a man to sleep with 10 people but not for a woman. Again, simple bigotry.
Secondly, the issue isn't simply her beliefs. I've lost count of how many times this has now been repeated. It's how someone so staunch that they believe in creationism and are against gay marriage, someone so coy that she cried about sex talk and being given a Bloody Mary, doesn't have a similarly strict view about a career in which the purpose is to arouse men. You don't even need to be a staunch Catholic to find that a risqué career. But she is staunch, as we were reminded BY HER over and over and over. Can you seriously not see the inherent contradiction? |
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Firstly, there's nothing religious in calling someone a "poof" or saying "step out of the closet you freak". That's not doctrine, it's bigotry. There's also nothing in Catholicism to say that it's OK for a man to sleep with 10 people but not for a woman. Again, simple bigotry.
Secondly, the issue isn't simply her beliefs. I've lost count of how many times this has now been repeated. It's how someone so staunch that they believe in creationism and are against gay marriage, someone so coy that she cried about sex talk and being given a Bloody Mary, doesn't have a similarly strict view about a career in which the purpose is to arouse men. You don't even need to be a staunch Catholic to find that a risqué career. But she is staunch, as we were reminded BY HER over and over and over. Can you seriously not see the inherent contradiction? As for your second point, I too have lost count on the many times this has been repeated. There is absolutely no issue, whatsoever, in my opinion, with Danielle working as a glamour model, and choosing not to have sex before marriage and attending church. It may be an odd career choice, yes, but I judge her no more than I would judge any glamour model, which would be not at all. I don't consider than because she is religious, or makes her decision on her sex life, that she has done anything wrong, no. There is nothing to say glamour models can't be religious, just as nothing to say they can be. Nothing to say they can't choose not to have sex, in the same way there is nothing to say they can't choose to sleep with who they want. Because Danielle chose to work as a glamour model, doesn't mean she cannot hold her religious beliefs,or attend church. There appear to be two fundamentally different viewpoints on the forum, those who feel she can work as a glamour model, yet still attend church and hold her views, and those who, I think, seem to feel that in so doing, she cannot hold her views, or shouldn't, and that she is some form of hypocrite. Everyone is entitled to their view. |
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I don't believe anything she says
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