Thing is, by the time they reached the final, Amber was almost as good as Corbin and Kellie was probably better than Zendaya (who had gone through the entire show blissfully disregarding the need to wear heels in the ballroom dances, a skill in itself which Kellie mastered but Zendaya didn't- I remember her complaining during her Samba training IN THE FINAL!) Sadie and Bethany, even Lea and Janel, are very, very good, but right now they are noticeably behind Alfonso, who also has his Fresh Prince cult following, something neither Zendaya or Corbin had (Disney and HSM are all very well, but not necessarily the sort who immediately watch DWTS because they're on. Everyone in the world seems to have seen Alfonso dancing in this series!)

Everyone in the world doesn't vote on dwts and Duck dynasty has a HUGE following in the states and Sadie falls perfectly in this show demo .
Every week Sadie dances are by far the MOST watched on different channels.

Once again, her dance is by far the most watched this week ( except the week that Alfonso did the Carlton ). Her rumba is at 1.113.000 views at one channel while Alfonso with the highest scoring dance is not even near 30.000 views. The closest is Derek and Bethany with 122.000 views.....
Yes Alfonso could very well win but imo Bethany and Sadie have a shot especially when you factor in their pros ( Derek, Mark ) fanbases.....

Anyways like I said, I'll be very happy with either of these 3 winning BUT yeah I had to get these stats out there


Team Creepy team dance might be a disaster Sadie and Mark are NOT in L.A.. they're in her hometown Louisiana...so they're are not rehearsing at the moment with the other couples


Alfonso has the rumba
Bethany and Sadie have the Paso
Lea and Artem have the AT

looking forward to these 4 routines . These 4 would be my finalists as well


Last thing, the BEST dancer doesn't always win this show .

http://instagram.com/p/ugETm6zPOj/

Karina's back.

http://instagram.com/p/ugxl2-Lpfq/?modal=true

http://instagram.com/p/ugLttyD0aP/?modal=true

http://instagram.com/p/ugz6y7D0bF/?modal=true

http://instagram.com/p/ueUj5Bj0d8/?modal=true

Are we definitely sure about this? I'm not sure if it was mentioned on the show- but the "World" Series (how America can have a world series when only they participate as a nation is beyond me) doesn't finish until the 29th (Wednesday) which would suggest Erin isn't back until the 3rd...

The World Series is best-of-seven games and could conceivably finish Sunday, if one team wins the next three in a row, starting today. Right now the two teams are tied.

However, even if one team wins the next three in a row and the Series is finished by Sunday, they still might want Erin to stick around and do post-game interviews. So I agree she likely won't be back until November 3.

P.S. They had to call it something, and since there are two different leagues someone came up with a grand name. The guy who named the Super Bowl did so because his young daughter had games and toys called Super this and Super that. You try coming up with names! I couldn't.

This week's press release says she's back (but they're not entirely reliable ). I quite enjoyed Leah standing in. Thought perhaps she made it a bit too much about herself, but it was fun.

So is it an urban myth that the World Series was named after a newspaper?

(What's wrong with calling it the United States Championship? )





I was sorry to see Jonathan go last week, though not surprised. Good for him to leave on a high - I really enjoyed their jazz. I can't help wondering if we would have seen a different dancer with a different pro . Didn't love Bethany's tango nearly so much as the judges but appreciated it being 'straight'. Awful music. Quite liked Janel's samba, but distracted by her dress. Sadie's rumba was pretty, and she made some nice shapes, but missing the sinuous hips. Found grandma in the training room deeply annoying. Liked Leah's salsa and though the first lift combo was fab, but not the part with the troupe. Agreed with Sharna and Anna about the judges comments on it. Alfonso gave a great performance, but it was too hip-hoppy. Whitney's playing to his strengths, for sure, but you still have to do the set dance and not the one you'd prefer . Antonio. What did he do? Honestly can't remember. Really disliked everything about Michael and Emma's AT. Didn't even think Emma looked very good at the leg/footwork, though she was good in the lifts. Being painfully slow probably just served to make it seem tentative rather than intense. Tommy was messy but enjoyably sweet.



I'm looking forward to Artem and Leah's AT. Their music is pretty good and he has some good ATs under his belt on Strictly. I have a feeling it could suit Leah, too, so fingers crossed. Team dances are always fun.

Thanks for the head's-up on this week's press release. Since there is no game Monday, it's possible Erin will be back.

Snopes has a long article disputing the notion the World Series was named after the New York World newspaper. A researcher at the Baseball Hall of Fame agreed there is no evidence to suggest that.

But imo there is no reason to change the name now. Nobody in the U.S. (or elsewhere, probably) takes the "World" in the title literally. Calling it a national championship would just be confusing since it's been known as the World Series as long as anyone has been alive and probably even before their parents or grandparents were born. Nobody seriously believes the Cleveland Indians or Washington Redskins are actually made up of Indians or the Seattle Seahawks are made up of seahawks. They have a beauty contest called Miss Universe, but the Earth is just one planet in the universe. They're just names not intended to offend anyone, certainly not the rest of the world.

I don't know how it works in Europe, but in the USA contestants under the age of 18 aka minors are required by law to have an adult with them at their training sessions....

Zendaya had her dad and mom , sometimes both present at each and every of her training sessions with val. Her parents also had to approve the choreography in some ways especially given Vals history and her working for Disney

When Shawn Johnson competed in season 8 with Mark, her parents had to be present at every training sessions.

It's just required by law...

This is actually the first time in 19 seasons that they showed a guardian ( Sadies grandma ) present in the training room. Why ? Idk....BUT make no mistakes about it, Mark is used to it and Val too when he had Zendaya.

I don't believe that is correct.

Shawn Johnson's Cast Member Agreement and her legal guardian's Release are both public information, having been filed with the Los Angeles Superior Court since the Court had to approve Shawn's participation, as a minor.

The full language contained in the Release Teri Johnson signed is as follows. It says nothing about requiring a chaperone to be present for anything:


RELEASE

This Release is entered into between the undersigned, parent or legal guardian of Shawn Johnson (“Artist”), a minor, and BBC Worldwide Productions, LLC (“Producer”) in connection with Artist’s services on the series “Dancing with the Stars” (“Series”). The undersigned hereby represents, warrants and agrees as follows:

1. The undersigned is the parent and/or legal guardian of Artist.

2. The undersigned hereby consents and agrees to the employment of Artist by Producer. The undersigned is familiar with the terms and conditions of Artist’s employment, including, but not limited to all travel requirements, and consents to the terms and conditions.

3. The undersigned hereby releases and forever discharges Producer, and its offices, members, managers, directors, shareholders, affiliates, associates, subsidiaries, predecessors, successors, assigns, agents, employees, insurers, partners, trustees, beneficiaries, representatives, attorneys, and all persons acting by and through, under or in concert with them, of and from any and all manner of action or actions, cause or causes of action, in law or in equity, suits, debts, liens, contracts, agreements, guaranties, promises, liabilities, claims, demands, damages, losses, costs or expenses (including without limitation attorneys’ fees and costs), of any nature whatsoever, whether based in contract, tort, equity or otherwise, known or unknown, fixed or contingent, suspected or unsuspected, patent or latent, concealed or overt, occurring, existing or relating in any way from Artist’s participation in or in connection with the making or utilization of the Series or by reason of Producer’s exercise of the rights granted to Producer hereunder.

4. The undersigned acknowledges that he/she is familiar with the provisions of California Civil Code §1542, which provides as follows:

A general release does not extend to claims which the
creditor does not know or suspect to exist in his favor at
the time of executing the release, which if known by him
must have materially affected his settlement with the
debtor.

The undersigned further acknowledges that the undersigned hereby expressly waives any rights he/she may have under Civil Code §1542, as well as any other statute or common law principle of similar effect.

By signing this Release, the undersigned agrees to be bound by all grants, warranties, representations and obligations provided for in accordance with the terms set forth herein.

ACCEPTED AND AGREED:

Teri Johnson
Artist’s Parent/Legal Guardian
Date: 1-12-09

In the 16-page (or so) CAST MEMBER AGREEMENT, I found only one section - Travel - that even alluded to Shawn's mother/chaperone, and only one other - Engagement Services - that metioned the hour restrictions on her as a minor under California and Iowa law. The Agreement goes into great detail about the training, but never once relates to anyone but Shawn. No mention is made of her mother/chaperone having to be present, ever.

2. Engagement Services.

Producer engages Artist to render services as a celebrity dancer in connection with the Series episodes constituting the Season. Artist acknowledges that the Series is an elimination dance competition in which Artist will participate with other celebrities. Without limiting any other provision of this agreement, Artist agrees to render services as and to the extent required by Producer on such dates and at such locations as Producer shall designate in its sole discretion. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Artist acknowledges that because Artist is a minor, Artist’s services may be affected and/or limited (e.g., the number of hours Artist can work in a given day) due to California, Iowa and/or any other applicable Labor Codes (collectively the “Labor Codes”). Artist acknowledges and agrees that any such affect and/or limitation on Artist’s services due to any such applicable Labor Codes does not put Artist at an unfair disadvantage in the competition.

[Section 2 continues in great detail for three more pages but mentions nothing about any restrictions or any guardian, in fact nothing that does not apply to all dancers.]

13. Travel. If Producer requires Artist to travel more than 100 miles from Artist’s permanent residence in connection with the performance of Artist’s services, Producer shall furnish Artist and Artist’s mother/chaperone with round trip business class air transportation, ground transportation between airports, hotels and the places at which Artist’s services are render, reasonable hotel accommodations (while rendering services in L.A.3e3 in LA, a 2 bedroom at the Palazzo) and $100 per diem for Artist and an AFTRA minimum per diem, if applicable, for Artist’s mother/chaperone. Furthermore, if Producer requires Artist to travel more than 100 miles from Artist’s permanent residence in connection with the performance of Artist’s services, Producer shall furnish Artist’s mother/chaperone with a rental car."

I don't recall seeing Zendaya's mom or dad at any rehearsals, and I just reviewed, albeit quickly, all of Zendaya and Val's rehearsal packages on a video by that name. Can you cite any specifically?

I reviewed the VERY detailed California Labor Laws with respect to Minors - they even have charts by age and sections addressing every conceivable work situation - and confirmed that no chaperone was required for Shawn or Zendaya. That applies only to minors under 16 years of age.

PARENTS/GUARDIANS

Parent or guardian of minor under 16 years of age must be present with and accompany such minor on the set or location must be within sight or sound at all times. Exception: No one shall be allowed in an area utilized by the Producer as a school facility except the teacher and those minors being taught (SAG Agreement: Sec. 50, D10)

Responsibilities of Parents or Guardians

All minors under eighteen (18) years of age (except emancipated minors exempted from 8 CCR) who have not completed their compulsory education requirements must have a valid entertainment work permit [8 CCR 11753] from a Department of Labor Standards Enforcement office

A parent or guardian is to make company aware of school requirements of minor (i.e., if minor is in year-round school, needs special subject matter, etc.) must be present with, and accompany, a minor under sixteen (16) years of age on the set or location and be within sight or sound of said minor at all times [8 CCR 11757]

if any minor under sixteen (16) years of age is not called to the set but is called for a period of up to one (1) hour into wardrobe, make-up, hairdressing, promotional publicity, personal appearances, or for audio recording, when such minor’s school is not in session…minor must be accompanied by a parent or guardian [8 CCR 11762]

The California labor laws that DID affect Shawn and Zendaya covered only the maximm hours they were allowed to work.

40 Hours of Work and Concurrent Requirements

Minors in the entertainment industry may not work more than eight hours in a day [LC 1308.7 and 1392] or more than 48 hours in a week. [LC 1308.7] They may only work between the hours of 5 a.m. and 10 p.m. (to 12:30 a.m.on days preceding a non-school-day). [LC 1308.7] “Schoolday” means any day that a minor is required to attend school or 240 minutes or more. [LC 1308.7]

Zendaya and Shawn had their parents at their training sessions.
I Know for a fact that Z mom was present at her rehearsals.

Sadie sometimes has her grandma and more recently her sister Rebecca Robertson..

If you listen/watch old Zendaya interviews when she competed you'll see her and Val confirming that fact.

If you go back and watch Shawn Johnson rumba or QS Vts, you'll see her dad and mom in the training room at some point...

Point is this has always been the case BUT it's actually the first time that they showed a guardian on camera ; so it's novelty or doesn't only pertain to Sadie as some people think.

A chaperone has to be in those training sessions ...

They may have been there but they don't HAVE to be there. If DWTS provided a two-bedroom apartment at The Palazzo for Shawn, they probably did the same for Zendaya and Sadie. But that's not the same thing as saying they had a legal requirement to be in training sessions. According to California law - and the agreements filed with the Superior Court on behalf of Shawn - they did not. Did Zendaya or Sadie ever say it was a legal requirement? That's what's at issue here, not the fact that family members were present. What young kid wouldn't want family support there?

Here is a summary of child labor laws for every state in the United States, by state:
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/childentertain.htm

In Louisiana, where Sadie is a resident, the law is:
Sec. 253-Minors under the age of 16 must have permit issued by state DOL to participate in employment in the entertainment industry.

Look at the number of states where there are no restrictions whatsoever for minors employed in the entertainment industry: Colorado, Kentucky, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.

Colorado law states: "Sec. 8-12-104-Any minor employed as an actor, model or performer is exempt from the law"
Kentucky: "Sec. 339.210 - Children employed in the entertainment industry are exempt from child labor requirements. "
Montana: "41-2-104. All minors, regardless of age may be employed as an actor, model or performer"
Oklahoma: "Minors who entertain are exempt from all laws because they are considered independent employees with agents."
South Carolina: "71-3105-d-The provisions of this Article do not apply with respect to any employee engaged as an actor or performer in motion pictures; radio or television productions, or theatrical productions."
South Dakota; " 60-12-1-The provisions of this section do not apply to children employed as actors or performers in motion pictures, theatrical, radio, or television productions."
Virginia: "Child labor provisions do not apply to children employed as actors or performers in motion pictures, theatrical, radio, or television productions. To obtain permit one needs: A completed employer intention to employ form, a permission to employ form signed by parent and school, and proof of age."
West Virginia: "Minors of any age may be legally employed without a permit or certificate in acting or performing in motion pictures, theatrical, radio or television productions."
Wisconsin: "No work permits needed between 12 and 18 for public entertainment. Nothing contained in ss. 103. 64 to 103. 82 shall be construed as forbidding any minor under 18 to appear for the purpose of singing, playing or performing in any studio, circus, theatrical or musical exhibition, concert or festival, in radio and television broadcasts, or as a live or photographic model."
Maine: "Sec. 26-773 to 775 - Minors under age 16 working as theatrical or film actors are exempt from the child labor law except that they must have work permits and approval by local superintendent of schools."
Hawaii: "Sec. 12-25-22-Minors under the age of 14 may be permitted to work in theatrical employment with written consent filed with the director by guardian or parent; certificate is kept on file by employer. Sec 12-25-23 establishes limits on daily and nightwork hours."

Here is the complete text of 3. Engagement from Shawn's CAST MEMBER AGREEMENT filed with the Los Angeles Superior Court. Look how extremely detailed it is. Nowhere does it mention any chaperone being required anywhere or anytime. Anyone can view the court documents at this link.

3. Engagement Services.

Producer engages Artist to render services as a celebrity dancer in connection with the Series episodes constituting the Season. Artist acknowledges that the Series is an elimination dance competition in which Artist will participate with other celebrities. Without limiting any other provision of this agreement, Artist agrees to render services as and to the extent required by Producer on such dates and at such locations as Producer shall designate in its sole discretion. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Artist acknowledges that because Artist is a minor, Artist’s services may be affected and/or limited (e.g., the number of hours Artist can work in a given day) due to California, Iowa and/or any other applicable Labor Codes (collectively the “Labor Codes”). Artist acknowledges and agrees that any such affect and/or limitation on Artist’s services due to any such applicable Labor Codes does not put Artist at an unfair disadvantage in the competition.

Artist’s participation on the Season is subject to the following terms and conditions:

Artist shall train with a dance professional designated by Producer beginning approximately four weeks prior to the broadcast of the first Season episode. This training currently is anticipated to begin the week of February 9, 2009. Subject to Artist’s good faith obligation to compete in the Season, to clause 2.b.v.D. and to subparagraph 2.b.vi., Artist may determine the specific times and places in the United States of Artist’s training prior to the broadcast of the first Season episode.

Artist will perform in live or taped broadcasts of Season episodes. Artist’s performances will include one to three original dance numbers for each episode in which Artist appears. Season broadcasts are currently anticipated to begin on March 9, 2009, and to be broadcast on a two episodes per week basis on Mondays and Tuesdays (the broadcast schedule is subject to change at Producer’s sole discretion) for 11 weeks, until the broadcast of the finale episode currently scheduled for May 19, 2009 (the “Finale”). Notwithstanding the foregoing, it is currently anticipated that the first broadcast week in which the Series is scheduled to be broadcast will be on Monday only. Producer may elect in its sole discretion to extend the Season for up to one additional week.

Prior to the Broadcast Term (as defined below): Artist shall be available to appear for photograph of the Season title sequence and EPK on one day selected by Artist out of two possible days designated by Producer (currently anticipated as February 12 and 13, 2009). Artist shall be available for production of a profile shoot on one or more days designated by Producer on reasonable notice in consultation with Artist. As used in this agreement, the “Broadcast Term” means the period from the morning of that day that the first Season episode is broadcast until the end of the broadcast of the Finale.

Artist shall be available for wardrobe fittings before and during the Broadcast Term at times and places reasonably designated by Producer.

Without limiting Artist’s other obligations under this agreement, during the Broadcast Term:

Artist shall appear as and where reasonably required on the day before each competition show for camera blocking of Artist’s dance number.

Artist shall appear and as where required for at least one master on-camera interview and at least two pick-up interviews weekly.

Artist shall participate in production of packages for results shows and Support Shows (as defined in paragraph 5.a.) covering different aspects of the behind-the-scenes story of the Season.

Artist shall participate in production of “out and about” packages. These will generally require Artist to render services at various locations other than dance studios.

Artist shall continue to train with Artist’s professional partner as necessary to fulfill Artist’s good faith obligation to compete in the Season. Artist acknowledges that this usually requires 20 or more hours of training per week.

Artist shall attend rehearsals for team dance numbers at times and places designated by Producer. It is currently anticipated that team dance rehearsals will take place in Los Angeles the evening of April 21, 2009, and on April 24, 2009. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the parties acknowledge that during the time period after Artist is eliminated from the competition, Artist will not be required to render services pursuant to this sub-paragraph F.

Artist shall attend rehearsals for group dance number, including the Finale, at times and places designated by Producer. It is currently anticipated a group dance rehearsal will take place in Los Angeles on April 15, 2009. Artist acknowledges that, without limiting any of Producer’s other rights and remedies, the Series rules may provide that Artist’s failure to attend group dance rehearsals and participate in group dance numbers without the prior written approval of Producer may affect adversely Artist’s chance of winning the competition. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the parties acknowledge that during the time period after Artist is eliminated from the competition, but prior to services required on the Finale, Artist will not be required to render services pursuant to this sub-paragraph G.

If Artist is not a Los Angeles resident, Artist shall relocate to Los Angeles beginning on the day before the first Season episode is broadcast until the day after Artist is eliminated from competition. Artist shall not leave Los Angeles during this period without Producer’s consent. Without limiting the foregoing, Artist will not leave the United States during the Broadcast Term without Producer’s written consent.

All training and rehearsals may be filmed and recorded. Artist shall cooperate with Producer (including by wearing a microphone at all times) so that the entirety of all of Artist’s training sessions and rehearsals can be, if Producer elects, used as program content, and therefore Artist is required to train and rehearse with Artist’s professional partner no less than six hours per week. Artist will give Producer reasonable advance notice of all of Artist’s training sessions and rehearsals. Artist will not train or rehearse off-camera without Producer’s consent.

Artist’s services include performance in non-commercial openings, closings, bridges, etc., for which no added compensation shall be payable, even if shot on production down days.

Artist’s appearance and performance in the Season is subject to the rules of the competition as determined by Producer and Network. Producer shall furnish Artist with the rules of the competition reasonably in advance of the beginning of production. Notwithstanding that Artist may be eliminated in the course of the contest, Artist shall return to appear and perform in one or more other episodes produced during the course of the Season, if required by Producer. Producer currently intends that Artist will be required to appear and perform in the Finale, which such performance may include an original dance routine.

Artist shall wear articles and use products and Producer’s request, including articles and products furnished by Series sponsors; provided no such use shall constitute a direct endorsement without Artist’s prior written consent. Artist shall not wear any apparel that contains recognizable logos, unless such apparel has been specifically provided by Producer. Producer shall not require apparel that contains a sponsor’s logo unless all other celebrity participants are required to do so.
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If a chaperone had been required, you can bet it would have been spelled out. California Labor Laws are extremely detailed, and make it clear that minors 16 years and older do not need a chaperone.

I merely wanted to clarify that Shawn, Z had guardians at their training sessions...something you refuted when that actually happened and let it known that Sadie having her grandma for example in rehearsals at times is nothing out of ordinary

I never refuted it, I merely said I didn't see either of Zendaya's parents in any of her rehearsal packages, and asked if you had. That is all. But California Labor Laws are no secret, you can find them on hundreds of websites word for word.

You said it was U.S. law, didn't you? That's all I was addressing. You said, "I don't know how it works in Europe, but in the USA contestants under the age of 18 aka minors are required by law to have an adult with them at their training sessions...."

I adore you and nearly always agree with you but that isn't the law. That's all.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...type=2&theater

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUw19WZWiQw

Not the law but my point still stands

Julianne and Mark in a Ballroom Competition; They looked like they were 6/7 years old here

http://instagram.com/p/ucBiAXp18M/?modal=true

How gorgeous is her little ballroom dress ?

Not sure if posted but this was fun to watch.

Its the US version of Goggle Box. They're watching Dancing With The Stars Week 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HdWniQs8yg

I remember that Zendaya had a hard time to dance with heels and the latin shoes but she had them on in the jive, samba, cha-cha, AT and maybe some more. When you see pictures of her not dancing she loves heels.
If you look at Sadies dances I think she had heels only once so far in the competition.
Maybe it´s a age thing and the lenght of the girls.
I thought about Sadie / latin shoes a few weeks ago and when I saw your post I just want to share my thoughts

Not sure if I should be thanking you for this. I've just spent an entire afternoon watching The People's Couch!

http://instagram.com/p/ul6og-mp4Y/?modal=true

http://instagram.com/p/uoFFXgj0QE/?u...oto&modal=true

Scroll down for some of the training footage of team dances.

https://vine.co/DancingABC

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/10/27/...wts-chemistry/

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...type=2&theater

http://instagram.com/p/uq0A60hdAj/

http://instagram.com/p/uq3f5jFbft/

http://okmagazine.com/get-scoop/ok-o...wts-rehearsal/

http://sharetv.com/news/2014/10/excl...son-from-dwts/

http://instagram.com/p/uq4hIjlbRP/

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