I don't really get what he's done wrong. Seems alright to me.
Absolutely hating the sight of Pav anytime he comes on my tv screen...
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Originally Posted by MrBing:
“Entertainment has nothing to do with it. From where I'm standing he's an intelligent, likeable human being and your attack on him is totally unjustified considering the reasons your citing. It seems to come from a place of insecurity about your own representation. You don't see the gays being this obnoxious every time a stereotypical flamer comes bouncing through the house year after year do you?”
“Entertainment has nothing to do with it. From where I'm standing he's an intelligent, likeable human being and your attack on him is totally unjustified considering the reasons your citing. It seems to come from a place of insecurity about your own representation. You don't see the gays being this obnoxious every time a stereotypical flamer comes bouncing through the house year after year do you?”
well gays would also be upset if year after year they had an over the top gay character such as Marco from bb2004 who ran around pretending to be a fairy and squealing 'representing' them...
P.s only someone insecure themselves about their sexuality would use an offensive homophobic term such as 'flamer' like you just did...
Originally Posted by hihopes:
“I don't really get what he's done wrong. Seems alright to me.”
“I don't really get what he's done wrong. Seems alright to me.”
He is pretty blah but he doesn't seem a bad person. I honestly don't mind him, he is like the furniture there, it's just there and we see it now and then.
Originally Posted by Sachin_Shah1:
“well gays would also be upset if year after year they had an over the top gay character such as Marco from bb2004 who ran around pretending to be a fairy and squealing 'representing' them...
P.s only someone insecure themselves about their sexuality would use an offensive homophobic term such as 'flamer' like you just did...”
“well gays would also be upset if year after year they had an over the top gay character such as Marco from bb2004 who ran around pretending to be a fairy and squealing 'representing' them...
P.s only someone insecure themselves about their sexuality would use an offensive homophobic term such as 'flamer' like you just did...”
95% of gay housemates have adhered primarily to stereotypes, giving gay people a reason to be annoyed. But most are comfortable enough in who they are that they don't care because they can appreciate that every individual is different.
I wasn't aware flamer was offensive, I was under the impression it was a term for an exceptionally flamboyant gay person. But interesting that you ignored my point to turn it around on me.
Regardless, I'm still waiting for you to justify the bile in the OP...
Don't like him/don't hate him. He's just there. The only time he annoyed me was when he copied Helen's answer to who was the most two-faced HM. Weak!
Originally Posted by delazarous:
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I represent humans and I feel Pav is a decent one!
OP, if you're feeling strong negativity toward someone who has yet to do anything bad in the house, maybe it's your problem?”
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I represent humans and I feel Pav is a decent one!
OP, if you're feeling strong negativity toward someone who has yet to do anything bad in the house, maybe it's your problem?”
This
He seems like a very calm, constructive, strategically thinking, and interesting HM to me. I hope he is in the final, and would be happy if he won. I don't remember the 'representing Asians' comment either.
He seems a nice guy really . But just a bit bland and he doesn't think well on his feet . He is one of those who needs to think things through thoroughly before every decision .Not a great way to be when BB is bowling googlies at you .
Originally Posted by Rikki65:
“How do you know the op is asian, how many people on here are using their real names or say things to steer people in a direction they want?”
“How do you know the op is asian, how many people on here are using their real names or say things to steer people in a direction they want?”
Because he says 'me, or any other Asian.' That suggests that he himself is Asian, doesn't it?
I voted for him to stay as I thought he had potential and to make sure Biannca went.
I think it is too early yet to judge him.
It must be very hard going in the house late.
I think it is too early yet to judge him.
It must be very hard going in the house late.
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“" I'm here to represent Asians "
has he said that ? not a good move if he has .”
“" I'm here to represent Asians "
has he said that ? not a good move if he has .”
Originally Posted by Sachin_Shah1:
“It was either on his vt or when introducing himself on the opening night the new ones went in...as soon as I heard it it got me irritated.”
“It was either on his vt or when introducing himself on the opening night the new ones went in...as soon as I heard it it got me irritated.”
OP I want proof he said this. It seems to be your major bugbear about him and I do not recall him saying it. However I did hear his friend say that or something along those lines on BOTS when Pav was up for eviction. Obviously Pav cannot be held responsible for what his friend says.
Here is the only early video I can find about the new HMs entrance and there is no mention on there about representing Asians. Maybe you got it wrong OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Ww...loNrw&index=98
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“OP I want proof he said this. It seems to be your major bugbear about him and I do not recall him saying it. However I did hear his friend say that or something along those lines on BOTS when Pav was up for eviction. Obviously Pav cannot be held responsible for what his friend says.
Here is the only early video I can find about the new HMs entrance and there is no mention on there about representing Asians. Maybe you got it wrong OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Ww...loNrw&index=98”
“OP I want proof he said this. It seems to be your major bugbear about him and I do not recall him saying it. However I did hear his friend say that or something along those lines on BOTS when Pav was up for eviction. Obviously Pav cannot be held responsible for what his friend says.
Here is the only early video I can find about the new HMs entrance and there is no mention on there about representing Asians. Maybe you got it wrong OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Ww...loNrw&index=98”
I'd like to second this request for proof from the OP.
Originally Posted by MrBing:
“I wasn't aware flamer was offensive, I was under the impression it was a term for an exceptionally flamboyant gay person.”
“I wasn't aware flamer was offensive, I was under the impression it was a term for an exceptionally flamboyant gay person.”
Nah, I don't think it is offensive. In America (predominately) it seems to be in the same way we use 'camp'. Context matters more.
He comes across to me like he's a little boy trying to act cool and all grown up.
loved the tapping he done in the shower though.
loved the tapping he done in the shower though.
Originally Posted by adwalton:
“Because he says 'me, or any other Asian.' That suggests that he himself is Asian, doesn't it?”
“Because he says 'me, or any other Asian.' That suggests that he himself is Asian, doesn't it?”
No, it doesnt. This is a digital spy forum
Pav is vapid and 'incomplete' IMO... he's missing a bit of oomph to his personality. Eyes darting around uncomfortably; hunched up like a little hamster most of the time...seems unsure of himself and a bit boring. Yes he does that drumming thing on the shower glass and the 'screw in the bulb, pat the dog' dancey thing.... but he's trotted these tricks out at least twice now and is enough.
I want to be entertained by the BB inmates... to enjoy some witty banter, horseplay, a bit of ranting, occasional Steve-o madness, opinion-sharing, jumping about a bit and/or making some 'noise' (and I don't mean screaming, Zoe).
Would be a good pal in 'real life' but if I wanted to watch 'nice' people sharing their favourite anecdotes and niceties on telly - I would watch 'Book of the Week'. I wouldn't be tuning-in to Big Bruv. Tru dat!
I want to be entertained by the BB inmates... to enjoy some witty banter, horseplay, a bit of ranting, occasional Steve-o madness, opinion-sharing, jumping about a bit and/or making some 'noise' (and I don't mean screaming, Zoe).
Would be a good pal in 'real life' but if I wanted to watch 'nice' people sharing their favourite anecdotes and niceties on telly - I would watch 'Book of the Week'. I wouldn't be tuning-in to Big Bruv. Tru dat!
Originally Posted by Sachin_Shah1:
“As an asian I don't want someone entering a national tv show with comments like these
" I'm here to represent asians/show sikhs in a good light "
Can't you understand how that annoys me...
Imagine makosi/gina etc represening black people or jade goody representing white people...how would you feel?”
“As an asian I don't want someone entering a national tv show with comments like these
" I'm here to represent asians/show sikhs in a good light "
Can't you understand how that annoys me...
Imagine makosi/gina etc represening black people or jade goody representing white people...how would you feel?”
Just to point out, Jade Goody was mixed race.
I think he's alright. The thing is that he's gone in there all fresh, full of energy, the rest of them are in a routine and used to doing nothing. According to this clip it would seem
. Perhaps we will see some of this.
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Originally Posted by Sachin_Shah1:
“As an asian I don't want someone entering a national tv show with comments like these
" I'm here to represent asians/show sikhs in a good light "
Can't you understand how that annoys me...
Imagine makosi/gina etc represening black people or jade goody representing white people...how would you feel?”
“As an asian I don't want someone entering a national tv show with comments like these
" I'm here to represent asians/show sikhs in a good light "
Can't you understand how that annoys me...
Imagine makosi/gina etc represening black people or jade goody representing white people...how would you feel?”
Well you've still not managed to prove to me that Pav actually said that he was representing Asians but I'm interested in why you compare him to characters like Jade Goody and Makosi or Gina. The main criticism I've heard about Pav is that he is boring
How on earth does Pav compare to these type of over the top BB characters. I get the impression there is more to your dislike of Pav than him saying what you suggest he said.
Originally Posted by daryl_spicer:
“Pav is a snake in the grass”
“Pav is a snake in the grass”
Tell me more. You make him sound interesting.
Asia is a very large and culturally diverse continent. If Pav can truly represent over four billion people, I think that is worthy of respect. I mean, wow! He must be some kind of Superman!
Originally Posted by daryl_spicer:
“Pav is a snake in the grass”
“Pav is a snake in the grass”
You know him? or is that just a sweeping uninformed statement.
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