Helen's friend?

How many times does it have to be pointed out that Kim HELD a meeting minus Helen, her and Jale wanted to save Marlon over Ash, exactly what part of that did Ashleigh control or manipulate?

Ashleigh called the meeting, she said she wanted a meeting with the girls without Helen and it was Kim who passed the message on to Jale or was this another time?

Oooh put the handbag away dear, getting a little defensive. Thou shalt not call Saint Ashleigh's behaviour into question, and only vilify the evil one known as Helen

You havent responded to any of my points I notice?

She didn't. They guys were all negotiated by several girls together???

I think it's irrelevant whether Chris pitched in or not ...... Helen was still outnumbered without Chris' vote - yet she still got her way. (AGAIN)

Helen thrives off power and other peoples misfortunes. Horrible woman and wont forget how she targeted Jale in the early weeks. I hope BB sees sense and takes the self righteous cow's pass from her.

You what???? Ridiculous.

...and you just know if Chris disagreed with Helen she'd have a strop and make him her next target for abuse.

Helen the powerful for the win!

Although Helen has been shown in a better light since the formal warning, she is just the same aggressive bully underneath imo.

Most of the other hms seem afraid of standing up to her and she reinforces this power by the way she talks to them eg when talking about having her finalist ticket removed by the unidentified power hm there seemed to be a threat that she would turn on whoever dared to do it. Also the party invites - everyone wanted Ashleigh and Zoe - she insisted on Ash and got her way.

Whatt ?? lol But thanks for a reply of sorts anyway haha

Nonsense! and what the heck is "stfu" use English.

LOL ... no probs

Yeah replying me in a Helen style lol But if you're wearing those denim daisy dukes shorts right now like Helen then i will admit you're right once or twice LOL

I know If she can undermine anyone it appears she will; very sad her level of emotional intelligence is seemingly below par.

...and they all let her be one

You jest of course.

Nope deadly serious particularly about the use of English.

Well whattayouknow! You were right.

Actually, Steven wanted Ash too, so it was two vs two. If chris had some balls abouthim it would've been two vs three.

And, even if it didn't make up the numbers, how can you say that it's irrelevant that chris kept queit? Surely, as a friend, he should be fighting her corner.


If anyone supports a HM because they share the same nationality or locality (or race, religion, whatever really, even if they just fancy them) then, yes, their opinion is invalid to me, because whenever they speak up for them, argue points for them, and do the whole fan thing on here, I know that it all stems from the fact that they happen to share a locality (in this instance) rather than actually agreeing with what that HM is doing. It's part of the reason why this place is so full of inconsistencies, with people arguing points opposite to those they've argued before because they feel compelled to stand by the HM regardless of whether they agree with them or not.

I'm not saying that every viewer who supports a HM of the same nationality etc is supporting them for shallow reasons, only those that support a HM because of their nationality. And it's plainly obvious that this does go on on here. I'm not blind to certain FMs invariably supporting the HMs from the same place they come from. And it'd be nice if you could say you're aware of it too.

Bit in bold - how do you know that?

Well, said.

I detest her. She's always on about people "showing their true colours", usually the people who are not in her gang. Hence she and her cohorts must be colourless.