Helen is such a controlling pain in the a**e

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od hominem

23-07-2014

Originally Posted by purplesky:
“She is an unedifying example of a slightly mentally challenged Northern lass, who squeezes her personality brutally to give the illusion of intelligence.

Alongside that, she typifies the school bully who groomed her hareem in such a way as to carry out her bidding at the flick of a finger or the nod of a head.

All the while she is able to fool those in power. An expert manipulator of those beneath and above herself with her charisma.

How on earth did she get a pass to the final? Using all her powers, she had already conned Pauline without even trying.

Some might say an amazing housemate, others might think an unpleasant specimen of humanity or indeed, anywhere between those 2 points.. ”

You lost me when I reached the part about 'her charisma'.

patsylimerick

23-07-2014

Originally Posted by Radical Joe:
“The Ashleigh we know now didn't exist until Toya got her onside. It was the defining period of her stay. To dismiss the extent of their relationship because Toya got the sack is to dismiss the impact Toya had on her.”

*sigh* It is so tedious to have to repeat the same points over and over and over again on here. I must have typed this 100 times at this stage - but here goes.

Ashleigh had the measure of Helen before she ever got close to Toya. While Helen and Toya were BFFs and Toya had been consoling Helen in the bathroom, the following conversation took place in the bedroom.

Toya: 'I wish Helen would stop letting the others lead her into bad behaviour'.
Ashleigh: 'Really? You think THAT'S what's happening?'

Ashleigh made an effort with Helen for maybe the first 10 days. After that she'd seen enough.

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