On this video about 1.12 in Chris states that he finds it easy schmoozing (my word) Ash and Helen during this time as a PHM because he actually likes Ash and Helen now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HVi...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw

Was Jale just ahead of her time and should Ashleigh and Chris apologise for the hard time they gave her for just chilling with people they now feel comfortable chilling with? Also, does the forum and Ashleigh supporters owe Jale an apology for targeting her and campaigning successfully to get rid of her on the back of her doing EXACTLY what Chris and Ashleigh now feel comfortable doing?

Brilliant...This just gets better and better Keep it up!

This is quite desperate.

Well well well. Interesting indeed.

I wonder how many apologies from Ashleigh fans there will be....

Chris is saying it's easier to schmooze Helen and Ash to believe that he's not the PHM this time around... because he *quite* likes them. I'm not getting the Jale reference.

Who's Jale ?

I wouldn't hold your breath on that one

The great white Whale

Well simply because Jale was pulled to shreds for getting along with Helen, now we have Chris saying he likes them.....even though he is in the DR slating them to the public eveyday (earning brownie points) and lets not forget his and Ashleighs little bitching rants against Helen too. He really is the most two faced housemate.

Well, I didn't agree with Jale being slated for that. But I still don't see how 'quite' liking someone, enough to pull the wool over their eyes, has anything to do with Jale's situation.

PMSL ........Chris saying he'd take the rap for Asleigh - shal wee wait and see?

Anyone remember how he sat there and let Pauline rip into Jale when she had no one? He sat by and said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING - very poor IMO.

Remember how he begged Jale not to drop him in it? And now .........he's gonna take the fall for Ashleigh. (Yeah right).

I started out with high hopes for Chris ..............pathetic individual IMO

Very logical and for people who work with black and white logic then I will have interest in their reply.

But I was a Jale/Kimberly fan and had no problem with them being friendly with all members of the house. There is no perfect house mates in the house, so the logic of the dark side = Helen and the cool kids and anyone who talked to them was breaking the 'outsiders code' must have joined the dark side was very childish argument anyway. That is how some posters are though.

Jale deserves massive apologies.

I think you're putting too much emphasis on the word 'quite'. I'm not saying he adores them but I don't think 'quite' means it isn't proper or real. Anyway Jale only quite liked Helen when she started to speak to her which she did because she wanted to give everyone a chance. I always thought it was quite admirable but sadly it was used against her in quite a nasty and unpleasant way.

From July 2nd in this discussion

The issue with Jale was never that she became mates with the cool kids..


...it's that as soon as the cool kids accepted her she dropped the others like a rock..... pushed to save those who treated her poorly(who she had nominated a few days before) above everyone else... and all but blanked those housemates who had been the only ones willing to talk with her.

Now if Chris suddenly stops talking to Ashleigh and Christopher and pushes to save Steven and Ash next week at their expense...you could say Jale was vindicated..

..but that won't happen.

Jale did not drop anyone, they dropped her, they isolated themselves preferring to bitch about her in the pod and refused to join in because they could not have ''fun '' with such a despicable lot. Jale never stopped talking to any of them other than for a short period of time when she was pi88ed off from hearing them bitch about her.

Even then she tried with Ashleigh and tried to give her some advice, she spoke her piece to Chris about what he had done behind her back and she spoke to Marlon once the dust had settled............I just dont know where you are getting those tales from but it was not from watching BB.

Really? I seem to remember that exactly being the issue.

Regarding the rest we never actually saw much of a friendship / relationship between her and Ashleigh or her and Danielle or her and Chris. We saw Mark and Winston stand up for her and she always remained friends with them and we heard her say Marlon was always there for her and she always remained friends with him. Who did she push to save Ash who she nominated each time she was allowed to

It's all just a load of revisionism that I've heard on here again and again. The fight was won when Ashleigh remained but I just love being able to see Jale posthumously () vindicated

Who cares about Jale, we voted her out and good riddance I say.

Haven't we just done this in another thread?

I know The thing is I think he would with Ashleigh. He seems like a new man with her by his side.

You don't remember Jale nominating Ash then... then suddenly saying he was one of the people she was closest two in the house within a couple of days after she was accepted into team cool?

Then making a list of the people she wanted to save....which comprised entirely of Helen's groupies at the time..and missed off Christopher,Chris, Danieille and Ashleigh entirely.

..then crying because Ash was up for eviction but not giving a stuff about the likes of Christopher? If not for Ashleigh's manipulation she would have saved Ash over the others.

She dumped the outsiders/nerds for the Jocks/cheerleaders..and in the end (as happens in so many American teen movies)..it ended up as her undoing.

well i haven't voted so was not really part of that campaign

Plus i didn't like Jale for other reasons - she was moody plus her face & voice just grated on me.
Something about her in the end i just didn't like.
She went ages ago now & not many people are that bothered anyway. Way these kind of shows go.
So is bringing Jale into it necessary.

Move on your becoming boring.

Jale was in the bitching trio long before the trio were shown those clips.