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Jale vindicated and Chris a hypocrite. Video proof.
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yellowlabbie
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by Callous:
“You don't remember Jale nominating Ash then... then saying he was one of the people she was closest two in the house within a couple of days after she was accepted into team cool?

Then making a list of the people she wanted to save....which comprised entirely of Helen's groupies at the time..and missed off Christopher,Chris, Danieille and Ashleigh entirely.

..then crying because Ash was up for eviction but not giving a stuff about the likes of Christopher? If not for Ashleigh's manipulation she would have saved Ash over the others.

She dumped the outsiders/nerds for the Jocks/cheerleaders..and in the end (as happens in so many American teen movies)..it ended up as her undoing.”

She definitely did dump them, she couldn't wait to be accepted by the cool group, she would have done anything to get in with them. She even admitted they were her sort of people, like the ones she hangs around with outside the house LOL. As if?
xNATILLYx
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Haven't we just done this in another thread?”

yes.

This isn't even just threads against Chris. There was 2 threads posted about Kim being on bots.
do mods other than looking at complained about posts do anything around here. No real merge action going on that you see elsewhere.
Threads on here are unnecessarily repetitive.
Littlegreen42
22-07-2014
Chris is so up Helen's arse, he managed to pop Jale out of her mouth!

themightypierre
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Well well well. Interesting indeed.

I wonder how many apologies from Ashleigh fans there will be....”

We've moved on. You should to.
BROXI BEAR
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Haven't we just done this in another thread?”

Yep! but good ol trev had to reinforce the desperation and start another thread.
dialectic
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“On this video about 1.12 in Chris states that he finds it easy schmoozing (my word) Ash and Helen during this time as a PHM because he actually likes Ash and Helen now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HVi...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw

Was Jale just ahead of her time and should Ashleigh and Chris apologise for the hard time they gave her for just chilling with people they now feel comfortable chilling with? Also, does the forum and Ashleigh supporters owe Jale an apology for targeting her and campaigning successfully to get rid of her on the back of her doing EXACTLY what Chris and Ashleigh now feel comfortable doing?”

Christopher, as well, has come out and said that he is glad that Helen was immune, as she would have been booted out early on and deserved a chance. Many of his, chris and Ashleigh supporters fought vehemently to boot Jale out. Jale was also heavily criticized for somehow 'putting Christopher down', none of which was evident in any of the clips. There is a clip up now of Ashleigh criticizing Christopher for leaving a piece of toast in the toaster. People on here should be enraged at this!
trevor tiger
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by IoanaP:
“Very logical and for people who work with black and white logic then I will have interest in their reply.

But I was a Jale/Kimberly fan and had no problem with them being friendly with all members of the house. There is no perfect house mates in the house, so the logic of the dark side = Helen and the cool kids and anyone who talked to them was breaking the 'outsiders code' must have joined the dark side was very childish argument anyway. That is how some posters are though.”

My position always was that I wanted Ashleigh and Danielle to join in with the main group. Who can forget how miserable and devious they looked sneering at Helen and Kim doing exercises and bitching about Helen, Kim and Jale in the pod. I didn't feel the same about Chris because he always mixed with the wider group whatever his supporters like to think and so did Christopher sensibly so.

I felt the early days would have really benefited with a more grown up approach in and outside the House and feel Jale has been a victim to the overall childishness.
shelleyj89
22-07-2014
The issue Chris had was Jale becoming pally with the people who had made her life hell in there the first few weeks. She seemingly forgot just how badly they had treated her, as they had "accepted" her.

Chris, whilst maybe not particularly liking them, has never been treated by them in the way Jale was.

So the two situations are completely different.
trevor tiger
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by xNATILLYx:
“yes.

This isn't even just threads against Chris. There was 2 threads posted about Kim being on bots.
do mods other than looking at complained about posts do anything around here. No real merge action going on that you see elsewhere.
Threads on here are unnecessarily repetitive.”

There is another thread on this video but that is talking about Chris letting on he was the PHM. This thread is talking about Chris admitting he now LIKES Helen and Ash. Difficult for you to deal with I can imagine but my concern is how Jale was treated for liking Helen and Ash both in and outside the House and pointing out the hypocrisy of Chris and the unfairness of the Save Ashleigh Campaign.

Originally Posted by BROXI BEAR:
“Yep! but good ol trev had to reinforce the desperation and start another thread. ”

Javed
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by Callous:
“The issue with Jale was never that she became mates with the cool kids..


...it's that as soon as the cool kids accepted her she dropped the others like a rock..... pushed to save those who treated her poorly(who she had nominated a few days before) above everyone else... and all but blanked those housemates who had been the only ones willing to talk with her.

Now if Chris suddenly stops talking to Ashleigh and Christopher and pushes to save Steven and Ash next week at their expense...you could say Jale was vindicated..

..but that won't happen.”


This!
magpi99
22-07-2014
Hatred for Helen makes Chris supporters oblivious to his faults. It's the BB bully factor, the mob wants to bully Helen, so what the pet bullies Chris or Ashleigh did to Jale is irrelevant to them.
chicksee
22-07-2014
sniff sniff what's that smell? oh. it's the desperation of the Chris haters again.
There are some ridiculous threads at the moment and this is another.
trevor tiger
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Christopher, as well, has come out and said that he is glad that Helen was immune, as she would have been booted out early on and deserved a chance. Many of his, chris and Ashleigh supporters fought vehemently to boot Jale out. Jale was also heavily criticized for somehow 'putting Christopher down', none of which was evident in any of the clips. There is a clip up now of Ashleigh criticizing Christopher for leaving a piece of toast in the toaster. People on here should be enraged at this!”

They are but only at the likes of me for pointing out the hypocrisy and unfairness
Dangermoose
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by magpi99:
“Hatred for Helen makes Chris supporters oblivious to his faults. It's the BB bully factor, the mob wants to bully Helen, so what the pet bullies Chris or Ashleigh did to Jale is irrelevant to them.”

Dear oh dear oh dear oh dear

What has hatred for Helen got to do with the price of bacon?

Are we oblivious to anyone's faults? Are we not allowed to support or like anyone regardless unless they are the perfect, flawless human being?
theid
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by viewer123:
“The great white Whale ”



Now that's just cruel. Jale is the one with mystic powers who shared tealeaf-reading skills with Mark. Enough said.
AOTB
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“They are but only at the likes of me for pointing out the hypocrisy and unfairness ”

I feel for you TT. They get enraged at me too for the same thing. Sometimes they call me mean names as they and their internet friends give me a metaphorical beatdown. The bruises may fade but the memories can last forever.

Be strong, and just remember....you are not alone.
dialectic
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by Callous:
“You don't remember Jale nominating Ash then... then suddenly saying he was one of the people she was closest two in the house within a couple of days after she was accepted into team cool?

Then making a list of the people she wanted to save....which comprised entirely of Helen's groupies at the time..and missed off Christopher,Chris, Danieille and Ashleigh entirely.

..then crying because Ash was up for eviction but not giving a stuff about the likes of Christopher? If not for Ashleigh's manipulation she would have saved Ash over the others.

She dumped the outsiders/nerds for the Jocks/cheerleaders..and in the end (as happens in so many American teen movies)..it ended up as her undoing.”

Not true, she very much wanted Ash out and voted him again the following week .
dialectic
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by chicksee:
“sniff sniff what's that smell? oh. it's the desperation of the Chris haters again.
There are some ridiculous threads at the moment and this is another.”

I like Chris but hate how Jale was abused on here for things that could be applied to all of them; including Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher. Sniff.. Sniff? Smells like double standards to me
Annsyre
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“She definitely did dump them, she couldn't wait to be accepted by the cool group, she would have done anything to get in with them. She even admitted they were her sort of people, like the ones she hangs around with outside the house LOL. As if?”

And when she got out she said that she hadn't realised that they called her slug. Silly girl.
Annsyre
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“I like Chris but hate how Jale was abused on here for things that could be applied to all of them; including Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher Sniff.. Sniff? Smells like double standards to me”

When did Chris scream obscenities and call other HMs slugs?
dialectic
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“When did Chris scream obscenities and call other HMs slugs?”

When did Jale? Did you even read my post or even the whole thread??
trevor tiger
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“When did Chris scream obscenities and call other HMs slugs?”

When did Jale

ETA Snap dialectic
trevor tiger
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“And when she got out she said that she hadn't realised that they called her slug. Silly girl.”

She's silly because she didn't know the names people were calling her behind her back

It feels like some HMs and posters just want to criticise Jale for anything and everything
dialectic
22-07-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“ When did Jale

ETA Snap dialectic ”

Uncanny.
Bagshot85
22-07-2014
Not sure what the point about Jale is.
Jale didn't do what Chris is doing.
She over-played the victim card, then couldn't wait to be in with the cool gang...at the expense of the ppl who weren't rude to her from the start.
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