....oh how I love this post ^^


.....absolutely

Ashleigh couldn't argue on his behalf for the party as she was on the losing team, and I doubt Chris has any more say than Christopher does in there. Even Mark got shouted down!

I agree and its a disgusting attitude especially those who are supposed to be his friends. Funnily enough he seems to be able to chat to the Cool Group but such as Mark and Ashleigh seem to discount him. Mark is mean, Ashleigh didn't include him, and why Mark who is out for himself. Don't trust Chris, he is a creep. I couldn't be that mean. Felt so sorry when he was the last one chosen for the groups. Just show the others up for what they are..

Well that doesn't say much for you then

Seeking validation is when your mood hinges on what others think of you or another's estimation of your worthiness. So much has been said about Steven's obsession with his public perception, but Christopher was just as (not as much now since Mark has roped him into his fauxmance and the house isn't as at odds) preoccupied with how his peers receive him. I cannot forget when he was being unfairly ganged up on by Pauline, Helen and Toya. What did Christopher do? He went to Pauline, groveling. kissing the ring admitting in the process that he cannot stand being excluded and isolated. Christopher is a needy person who needs others to like him in order to be happy. That's not normal at all. And it's rather draining to be around.

Oy. You can't manage to read the entire first page, then?

I think they decided they COULDN'T choose Christopher as it might then be a bit of a give-away as to who the PHMs were if they spent time together discussing their next moves. Hence choosing Mark who is a social butterfly flitting between the two camps.
They could have chosen one of the newbies, but ...

Ashleigh and Chris could have chosen him for their Alliance before Mark though, and Mark completely passed Christopher over in favour of Ashleigh at the party too.

No that one doesn't wash, as they are always sitting around together anyway, so it wouldn't be any sort of a giveaway.

It did feel like Helen was in charge of inviting who she wanted to the party and not Mark. Poor Christopher did not get a look in. Christopher is a lovely guy, hope he wins. would love to have a friend like him, who stand up for you, also tells you if you in the wrong, but does not judge you. Hope he wins.

I love Christopher and I think Needy is the wrong word. I think most people when being unfairly ganged up on would probably react the same way (tbh I think a lot would take it a lot worse than he did) The difference between Steven and Christopher is that Steven stinks of desperation and has crossed serious boundaries no self respecting person would. Christopher has shown that he can be resilliant and bounce back and take it all on the chin. He has a mind and opinion of his own and is passionate about people having their own mind. Not saying he is a perfect human being but in the grand scheme of things he is far above most in the house and is a all around decent person.

In terms of the needing validation from others to be happy comment , I think you need a lesson in human nature. We are very very social creatures and seek emotional attachements and approval from a young age. Obviously this can end really badly if taken too far but the truth is it's much more common to see sheep and followers than to see somebody just not care about others opinions. Positive or negative it's the way humans are programmed.

He wasn't nominated for eviction this week was he?
This is probably the first reprieve he's had from being nominated for eviction since week 1.

His 'supposed' friends ensured that he wasn't nominated for eviction.

Turned out to be for the best in the end

Mark shi*** on him more than any other in there.

For those saying why wasn't Christopher invited into the power alliance. There were reasons mentioned. The other side of that though is Ashleigh and Chris said they would never of put Christopher up for nomination so that shows they genuinelly like him.

I can't remember exactly how they phrased it but the gist was they couldn't trust him to keep it secret or cope with the pressure ... he wasn't even in the running as the fourth Power Housemate as they had Winstone in line for that.

Well that lack of judgment certainly bit them in the arse with Marks 'galliant' defense of all their earlier joint decisions.

Mark would have put him up if it didn't reflect badly on himself but I agree Chris and Ashleigh wouldn't have put him up but I wonder if they would have been persuadable of the old "he's safe he wont go anywhere" argument

Anyway, I prefer Christopher to be a lone-wolf - independent, resilient and the eventual winner

True. And what does Christopher have to say about Mark?

"Mark is great! He's so talented and funny. He reminded me of a young George Michael. Funniest person I've ever met in my life... He never makes his personal feelings vocal about me and he'll do everything he can to distance himself from me in every way. It would be nice if he liked me to be there. I'd like to know that he considered me."

Doormat. Needy. Sap. What was that about self-respect?

Oh, and while we're at it Christopher once again asserted his need to be part of the group. "I'm disappointed about the party. I don't like to feel like I'm missing out on anything."

I don't know why some posters are bothering saying otherwise. Christopher is if anything pretty damn self-aware.

Rightly or wrongly Christopher has clearly fallen for Mark. The vast majority of people have fallen for the wrong person at least once in their life and make excuses for them and carrying on gushing about them only to look back eventually and think 'what the hell was I doing'.

Christopher's reaction to Mark doesn't show me his needy or a doormat or has no self respect. He's just someone who's made the same mistake as many, many normally sane people do and gone a bit loopy because he's fallen for someone. Unfortunately for him it's on TV.

BIB - I love him for all these reasons. He shines out like a beacon among that lot.

You completely missed over my point that this is how most normal people react!!! Of course when you like someone you want them to consider you. Of course people want to feel like part of the group and it's not nice to feel like people wouldn't care if you were there or not. You're picking on Christopher for behaving in a way pretty much all of the housemates would.

He has shown self respect and respect for others throughout. He hasn't changed who he is to fit in with everybody else, only then would I understand someone calling him needy and pathetic.

People from both "sides" have made comments all along the way that they view him as trying to play both groups. Of course, Mark is the one to throw him under that particular bus as frequently as he can, because he's doing the same, and hoping they won't notice if he keeps accusing Christopher of it first. The result of that is most of them don't really trust him, and never take anything he says sincerely.

I hope when he gets out that he realizes that it's 99% Mark's doing and responds accordingly.

...yes I agree with you there I see Christopher as just being "his own person" he doesn't appear to be concerned that he isn't 'Mr Cool' and he certainly doesn't seem to take it personally when he is up for eviction, he knows that he is on BB and its all just part of the game.

He particularly impressed me when he was comforting Danielle and he reassured her with wtte that is ok to be different and not fit-in, he then proceeded to say wtte that people don't like it as they can't label you as being A or B, he also said he gets this all the time and that its their problem (other people) not his or hers......I thought that was very insightful and mature of him.....quite lovely really

BIB - It really was. And kind.

No, dear. I ignored your point because it was baseless. You're restating the same things without supplying examples. Fair enough, but that's just your interpretation, not gospel. And blanket statements like, "He has shown self respect" and "He is resilient" certainly aren't convincing enough to sway my mind. Btw, I think I'm sufficiently learned in human nature. But thanks for the lesson anyhow.

I've given examples of his reactions (like crying to Pauline and stating himself that he can't cope with being isolated [they weren't arguing with him then, they were merely ignoring him]) IMO exceeding how your average well-adjusted person with the human need for acceptance would handle it. The original question posed asked why Christopher is being treated shoddily; my original answer was because he allows it. I arrived to that conclusion based on the behavior and examples I've since detailed. I think Christopher is a genuinely nice guy, but he tries. too. hard. Just like he has been trying for years to get in a relationship. Speaking from personal experience, his attitude is a bit of a turnoff and I can identify with the housemates on those grounds which is why I replied in the first place.

ETA:

Within Christopher's statement he acknowledges that he pays Mark more consideration than Mark pays him. Christopher believes Mark deliberately distances himself from him. He is acknowledging an imbalance in their relationship but continues to gush about Mark, make excuses for him and gives him license to treat him in the same manner. He's very much aware that their friendship/relationship is imbalanced, but he allows that inequality to persist. I don't see how that isn't doormat-ish.

I suspect that besides being a decent, mild-mannered bloke, he also has masochistic tendencies.

It is no surprise that Mark the cruel sadist compliments him.

And I repeat the sentiments of my last post that's just what most people do when they have feelings for someone who doesn't feel the same they act of character.