No she really is When you pair the two together...Helen has had more work done that the bride of wildenstein! Ashleigh is 100% and knocks socks of Helen in the style staies as well as class stakes. Helen is basically a chav, a wee 'ned' if it were Glasgow. Utterly deluded and no clue as to the game she is in - she thinks it is save the "cool gang" and out the rest and all you band wagon jumpers cannot see it

Hellen's a hateful person, as she has shown all through the game, her true colours are there for all to see on TV. The pass has been a blessing in disguise, because she feels safe to be the hateful person she is, we would have seen a completely different person if her pass to the final was not gifted to her, and maybe she could have fooled the GBP by pretending to be a nice human being. 👄💨 BB failed in their attempt.

Well, the way things have turned out, if she had picked a safe one, she'd have put herself in more danger of eviction. What use is being old and wise with constantly interfering producers?

The ability to think rationally before responding in any given situation is indicative of maturity. Speaking without thinking, especially when your words usually cause considerable offense, is not a trait worthy of praise. It's something I'd expect from a child.

Bear in mind, thought processes do not need to take a long time. For most people, they are very rapid, meaning that conversations do still flow even when people think about what they are saying.

Indeed you don't know how they would have interfered if other HMs had been chosen. Which, as you say with this level of contrivance in everything by BB, it makes most of what happens pointless or irrelevant until they have finally finished messing with the end result.

I just can't believe the shamelessness of Helen and Ash's reactions to being nominated. Even Steven took it slightly better even if it did talk about it non stop.
The ego stroking of these two utter arseholes genuinely makes me angry. It's like they can't believe anyone would have the audacity to not find them both incredible.

Do they not know people hold different opinions to them? They must realise they aren't the most invincible amazing people on the planet. They aren't even the most amazing people in the house.

The childish reactions make me sick. No self awareness at all. You're in Big Brother. Get a f*cking grip.

So agree with you. Anyone else in the house displays the same behaviour as her she goes mental. No self awareness at all.

I kinda adore Helen but when is she not bitter?

Couldn't agree more LightMeUp (love your name by the by!)

I'm a newbie on here so to all please be kind!

Slighly more saltier language than I would use, however, I really could not agree more with your post. Excellently put.

of course thats what friends do for each other say what you like about helen but she is loyal to her friends unlike ashleigh when danelle left off with the old on with the new saying chris makes her happier than danelle what a turn coat

Good post Lightmeup -I don't understand why the nominations get her so angry, she knows the game, nominate, evict, repeat until a winner is established,

I think Steven, and inparticular, Ash and Helen really showed themselves up last night. I can't work out if they are such sensitive souls that they are deeply hurt that someone in the house would nominate them?

Just watched it again....further on Helen says 'so much for having a nice week and us all getting on (along).

No reason for it to turn all nasty then? Unless Helen creates more shouting matches and then it'll be her that's made it go back to being un-nice not the task.

(btw I'm not a hater/lover/fantatic fan of any of them, just trying to watch objectively)

One could argue Ashleigh was looking out for her friends as well. Christopher is her friend and she wanted to give him a break from being up, Winston stood up for her and she thinks he's nice. So she did what was best for her and her friends why can't Helen grasp that?

Also Ashleigh said Chris made her laugh more than Danielle, how does that make her a turncoat? Maybe he actually does and she's just being honest, it's not like she's insulting Danielle, the three of them were friends anyway

I was under the impression that Ashleigh had the monopoly on 'sour', nice to see her sharing it around

Nah just in there - I woul dbe if I was stuck with Helen and feckin' Pav! All a bunch of twits!

I'm a newbie too so no worries there haha.