Helen and Ash have completely ruined BB for me.

Two horrible chavs on a nine week holiday. They have been, quite obviously, guided and coached by BB and yet still come across as horrible and false. Ash's personality transplant at the end of week two is one of the most bizarre things to ever happen in the BB house. His OTT faux laughter at almost everything anyone does is also very grating.

Meanwhile Helen has had such an easy ride in there over the last seven weeks and nothing will convince me that her pass wasn't a pre-agreed part of her appearing in this series. No doubt Pauline will eventually let it slip that she was told who to choose.

I'm now fast forwarding much of Helen and Ash's airtime. I'd recommend it. I'm not interested in anything they have to drawl about, and as for that elongated clip of their under the duvet shenanigans the other night... No thanks!

Why is it obvious that they've been guided and coached

Excuse me for being rude but that's just ridiculous

As is the Pauline BIB.

Do you not think the 'showing of information' is akin to goading? It's like giving her the green light to kick off and make herself look bad and make Ashleigh a victim.

There are a number of ways of looking at things - sometimes it goes deeper.

IMHO Helen or Ash will be the next PH. Then lets see how the others react when they find out, i imagine with awww it's ok you had to do certain thing's Helen/Ash.

It could be a number of things or it could just be straightforward. Regardless of the various different motivations at play here, that of the production team (I assume that is who you allude to as doing the goading) or that of the perceived statuses of victim and aggressor it's quite clear to me that a few of the housemates in there have had what amounts to a summer jolly in the house...Helen being the main one to benefit from this laid on piss-up while always managing to be "always in the right, always in the right"

But that's my point .................she clearly isn't 'always in the right' is she? well on here anyway and at the end of the day a so called seemingly easy ride in the house doesn't equate to winning votes does it?

Far from favouring Helen she has been quite clearly used to drive the story line .......it's been the lynch pin of the whole BB - how the others react to her erratic behaviour. When has she ever come over well ( to the majority of voters)?

We might be able to see that she's not always in the right....but it hasn't stopped her being self-righteous and vainglorious about having the moral high ground of being the most honest
and trustworthy.

BIB how others react to her...there you go, it's her in the position of power and others have to dance to her tune or feel her wrath ergo the title of this thread.

So you think it's winning her massive support? She may well be appearing to live the life of Reilly but ultimately it's a game show - the so called 'position of power' and having everyone dancing to her tune won't win her the show.

No I don't think it's winning her support with the public. I never mentioned that, that's not to say that she couldn't say turn things around because she has the benefit of guaranteed time in the house. What I am saying is that she's had a fabulous time of it having a drink and a laugh with her band of merry men, a holiday fling with Ash and as many arguments to while her time with....always on the attack and never on the back foot having to justify herself or made accountable.

Yep, ya got THAT right.

Www
Wouldn't life be great if we could all be as wise as you, eh?

She is not a good housemate. She has bullied others. That is not a good housemate. Ashleigh has been better

Posts like this really annoy me, as well as being against the T&C's they just show a huge amount of bigotry and downright rudeness, and I bet you're one of the most vociferous about how "NASTY" Helen is too. It seems to me that some should look up the meaning of the word irony, and then look at their own posts !

LOL unbelievable isn't it ! So many take things at face value these days because they're too lazy to look any further !

at manipulation, just like her new sidekick Chris.

Oh come on, if Zoe or Pav insisted they'd been saved instead of Ash, the rest of their stay in the house would be a living hell from Helen. No one dare to cross Helen or her little minions unless they have a death wish.

Totally agree, I can only think the producers are scared of her, ash up for nomination was not what the producers wanted so they had to back track to keep him in.
Its Josie Gibson all over again. They wanted her to win and fixed it so that she did.They know Helen will stay until the final, but they want to keep her happy and have ash there too.The producers have given Ashleigh a raw deal all the time.

It really is, Im appalled by this latest decision its like Helen has som hold over them

Pleasing Helen once again and poor Ashleigh getting screwed over

Why would they want to help Helen? There's no logic to that whatsoever.

They want you all to pick up your phones and vote. They want us all to be discussing it. They want controversy. They want storylines. They want revenue.

They don't care who wins as long as they produce an entertaining, profit-healthy show. They don't care if HMs tear strips off each other as long as they don't get prosecuted. They don't care about generating the wrong headlines as long as it doesn't jeopardise the show or their jobs. They don't care about hurting anyone's feelings as long as HMs continue to be performing seals. And they don't care if you're pissed off with them as long as you're talking about the show and spending money on it.

When will people realise the ruthless nature of these people? It's not like they haven't proved it over and over.

Well said. That's it in a nutshell.

They won't take her pass away from here because the moment they do she's out of there. They know she's going to explode again and they think it's great TV or whatever.

And they are right. They keep voting out the interesting ones and keeping the boring ones in. Look at who won last year. Callum should if won that series hands down. He had the most charisma and cut amazing promos. Sick if the public.

As I have said on another thread....Who are these morons running this show ???? The favouritism shown to Madame Helen and her band of arse lickers is becoming unbelievable. The only conclusion I can come to is that the producers are some of her clients!!!!! Nothing else makes sense.

I think BB is thinking about the ££ signs at all times. The biggest rivalry this series has between Ashleigh and Helen...I'm sure the idea all along was to get Ashleigh up for eviction so that her supporters would move Heaven and earth to keep her in. It was a calculated risk if you put she, Chris, and Mark up as replacement for one of the others it would be her who was chosen. The GBP loves an underdog...her supporters have proven to be organised and able to keep her safe...another week of massive numbers of calls to keep her in - it's all about the dosh.

We all take this so seriously...housemates, the game, evictions. At the end of the day this is a money making venture for Channel 5 and if they see a rivalry like Helen and Ashleigh, they will do anything in their power to keep it alive.

With that said...I really hope Ashleigh stays and I really do dislike Helen intensely!

Good post.

Nail on the head.