Are youse the same people who keep belting on about having Helen's free pass taking away? Just saying .........

Helen's won't though, will it?

I don't think Helen's pass should be taken away, if they do that then they might as well take away Mark's money too. It just makes a joke of the show and the whole beginning twist a waste.

No , the point is Helens pass is about the only thing whole series that BB have stuck too they've fu**** around with just about all else.

Do you think that Helens pass to the final will be a twist? For example Helen you have a pass to the final however you now have the chance to cash it in, you can keep the pass and stay until the final or take half of the prize money and leave now.
what do you think?

Could do , who knows they might aswell mess with the final thing left to mess with lol

BB (or specifically "Iris") is at fault here. They should not have told Ashleigh she had immunity. That way, the general house statement made previously that "no-one is safe" would have applied.

But as we know, "BB can change the rules at any time".

Remember those halcyon days when one housemate would vie with another for eviction rather than BB fiddling with the rules to make certain at least four people are up every week.

This is true for me as well......

It would be the biggest 'trick' Helen could benefit from........I wouldn't put it past BB either this year............anything could happen......

I'm just annoyed all round.

Never in the history of Big Brother have I seen the producers mess with nominations as much as they have this series.

The viewers when it comes down to it, don't have the power. It's Big Brother. They're calling the shots.

Marlon being evicted without the public vote was the last straw for me. So since then it's been a joke and just gotten worse and worse. So they may as well take Helen's pass away so she could face the public at least once, the damage has already been done to the show. Plus Jale's twist was a joke when she had the killer nom yet BB rescinded that for a week when it was girl power, so... It's been such a mess this series that i get the feeling when it's all said and done the producers/housemates/crew/audience will all think, 'was it all worth it?'

I don't know about 'halcyon days'. Head to head evictions turned into a complete farce at the end, thanks to the Tweenie block vote. At least this way it's harder (though not impossible, as we saw with Jale's exit) for that section of the audience to mobilise itself.

I haven't supported Helen losing her immunity or Mark losing his £5K for that matter despite him being a little p****.

However if BB are going to tell HMs they are immune they should stick to it. The next PHM should just tell BB to take a run. What are BB going to do - put them up for eviction if they don't nominate? Well there is a good chance of that happening anyway so why play by BB's pseudo rules.

Yes.

The point is the double standards.

This was meant to be "the most powerful ever" or something like that.... but how was Ashleigh so powerful if she could have her immunity stripped from her? Yet Helen never ever ever could - that's out of the question.

What was all that 'power is stronger than before' crap about? It amounted to nothing; Ashleigh's up, and Helen's still holding onto a free pass which is the ONLY thing BB have actually bothered sticking to.

hold your horses, there may be another twist yet, last one to get up this morning is up for eviction and has to save one of the others, or first person to have a crap is saved and has to nominate, some sht like that

a great question there This series is so crap! I cant believe how spineless all the housemates are time and time again the chance has been there but no one does it id put Winston, Christopher and Mark up against each other and why not? why do they put the same old people up week in week out? and why do the stupid public keep giving the power to the same old people? This series should be called Big Brother Deja vu's

Actually it's a daft question. Immunity for one week is a small privilege while immunity for the entire show is MASSIVE. Objecting to the removal of a small privilege from one HM while clamouring for the removal of the huge one from another HM, isn't inconsistent as you suggest, it's perfectly rational.

Try again.

remember how last week,this show would never be watched again/total fix/complaining to ofcom etc........................then this week the same fixing became acceptable and loved almost because they concerned a forum favorite...............................and now we are back to the fix stuff.

Basically depending on Ashleigh and to a lesser degree Chris.the mood and on here fluctuates.

Those who voted for Ashleigh to be Power Housemate put her up for eviction.

The OP's point is that many of the people who've been arguing for weeks to have Helen's pass revoked, and to hell with what BB said before, are now the same people who are slating BB for going against what they said to Ashleigh about being immune.

If it's wrong for BB to revoke Ashleigh's immunity, then it's wrong for them to revoke Helen's immunity. Yet some here were in favour of one, whilst getting up in arms about the other.

Helen can stick her pass up her @rse,she's not going to win anyway.Easy ride helen,both outside and inside the house.

EXACTLY my first thought!!!

So now you're are putting the same thing in this thread too. Not true.

Troll

I am not worried they took her immunity and that the the nominated HMs then chose Ashleigh. She is safe anyway. Steven will go. It will be even sweeter that way!

I've never said Helen's pass should be taken away. In fact I've said the opposite. It was wrong to give it to anyone in the first place. But now it would be wrong to take it away.

The main reason behind Ashleigh fans' annoyance, if you haven't understood it by now, is the fact that everything seems to be chopping and changing (she was explicitly told she was immune and the viewers were also led to believe this, and then suddenly she's up for eviction).

In terms of immunity, Helen's pass is the only thing that has remained a constant.

They are favouring others.