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People who are annoyed at Ashleigh's immunity being overturned
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Aura101
23-07-2014
these ridiculous twists, honestly whats the point?

im more annoyed they said that Ashleigh was immune from the eviction, but she wasnt immune, which just YET AGAIN wreaks of MORE 'making-it-up-as-they-go-along'

i just dont get how this show is planned?

it seemed like they started making it up as early as week 2. do they not ever have a plan for the series ?!
Radical Joe
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“I've never said Helen's pass should be taken away. In fact I've said the opposite. It was wrong to give it to anyone in the first place. But now it would be wrong to take it away.

The main reason behind Ashleigh fans' annoyance, if you haven't understood it by now, is the fact that everything seems to be chopping and changing (she was explicitly told she was immune and the viewers were also led to believe this, and then suddenly she's up for eviction).

In terms of immunity, Helen's pass is the only thing that has remained a constant.

They are favouring others.”

There's plenty of people, as I'm sure you're aware, that had no qualms about calling for BB to change their decision on Helen's immunity, long before this situation with Ashleigh arose. so, why did many people deem it OK for BB to ignore what they told Helen, but wrong for them to ignore what they told Ashleigh?

I accept you say you weren't calling for the removal of Helen's pass, but many were. And if they're the same people who're now saying it's wrong for BB to do this then their position is inconsistent, IMO.
R82n8
23-07-2014
They're gonna give her 50K to revoke her pass and leave.
stripey_socks
23-07-2014
the producers wont take away helens pass to the finale because no helen = incredibly boring/dull house hold.

I now cant help but wonder whether BB told Pauline to choose Helen
solare
23-07-2014
"BB can change the rules at any time" is basically their get-out clause which unfortunately enables them to do whatever they want and make up the rules as they go along.

It just results in the viewer having no faith in any of the statements made by BB.
yogacats
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“No , the point is Helens pass is about the only thing whole series that BB have stuck too they've fu**** around with just about all else.”

OH GOD NO .... It's Connor all over again. Reward the vilest, nastiest, most bullying person in there. Promoting a very, VERY bad message .......
Jennyloo
23-07-2014
I do t think she needs to worry. Pav or Steven will go before her. Why can't they giver the power for something nice like they did with Pauline.
meglosmurmurs
23-07-2014
Ashleigh having her immunity taken away only puts Helen's pass into further question, why are they allowed to break all their other promises but not the one that would make the majority of the viewers happy? lol Ch5 logic.
ForGodsSake
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Jaygar:
“Do you think that Helens pass to the final will be a twist? For example Helen you have a pass to the final however you now have the chance to cash it in, you can keep the pass and stay until the final or take half of the prize money and leave now.
what do you think?”

I hope so... that'll bring fun times on this forum
Andrew_Neil
23-07-2014
Helen has maintained her immunity for 7 weeks, yet Ashleigh looses hers are 2 days. #favoritism
ValW
23-07-2014
If they'd given the alliance one final choice as they all stood there - stick with Steven v Ash v Pav v Zoe or switch to Ashleigh v Chris v Mark v Helen - THAT would have been a great twist. Would the alliance risk sacrificing their places for a one-off shot at getting Helen out?

But no, this isn't Big Brother it's The Helen Show. She has to be protected and favoured at all costs. In the good old days nobody was indispensable and house dynamics would have developed of their own accord, not enforced from on high.
yogacats
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Radical Joe:
“The OP's point is that many of the people who've been arguing for weeks to have Helen's pass revoked, and to hell with what BB said before, are now the same people who are slating BB for going against what they said to Ashleigh about being immune.

If it's wrong for BB to revoke Ashleigh's immunity, then it's wrong for them to revoke Helen's immunity. Yet some here were in favour of one, whilst getting up in arms about the other.”

NO ..... it's because they fupped everyone else up but Helen can't be touched. The difference is Ashley has been screwed, Marlon was screwed, Danielle was screwed, Mathew was screwed ...... why can everyone be screwed EXCEPT Helen. If she was treated the same as the others people wouldn't be up in arms.
yogacats
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Andrew_Neil:
“Helen has maintained her immunity for 7 weeks, yet Ashleigh looses hers are 2 days. #favoritism”

Yeah it's almost like Helen has some 'hold' over someone in charge ... you know, like she knows something or 'has something' on someone who makes the program and that's why she's being protected, favoured and promoted?

I can't help buy agree with some people on here who have called this years show Helen Brother!
AOTB
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Tom-Bennett.:
“Are youse the same people who keep belting on about having Helen's free pass taking away? Just saying .........”

Come on- you know the rules.

If it's a twist that helps their favourite HM or goes against one they hate- it is all brilliant.

If it's not- the twist is a VILE unfair outrage.
Radical Joe
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“NO ..... it's because they fupped everyone else up but Helen can't be touched. The difference is Ashley has been screwed, Marlon was screwed, Danielle was screwed, Mathew was screwed ...... why can everyone be screwed EXCEPT Helen. If she was treated the same as the others people wouldn't be up in arms.”

It might have escaped your attention, but Helen is one of the most loathed HMs in recent years. BB have made a number of decisions, both through intervening to get Helen ranting, and in deciding what to show, to make Helen so disliked.

Originally Posted by yogacats:
“Yeah it's almost like Helen has some 'hold' over someone in charge ... you know, like she knows something or 'has something' on someone who makes the program and that's why she's being protected, favoured and promoted?

I can't help buy agree with some people on here who have called this years show Helen Brother!”

I'd agree with that. Every HM's identity and popularity is defined by their relationship with Helen. Like Helen = hated by the public, Loathe Helen = loved by the public. I guess the gameplayers in there would hear the boos for her and turn against her...
Andrew_Neil
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“Yeah it's almost like Helen has some 'hold' over someone in charge ... you know, like she knows something or 'has something' on someone who makes the program and that's why she's being protected, favoured and promoted?

I can't help buy agree with some people on here who have called this years show Helen Brother!”

The producers are obviously soooo desperate to keep her. Northern & Shell (current channel 5 owners) make their money by forcing "celebrity" sh*t at their audience in the Daily Star and the magazines OK!, New! and Star. I think they are using her to get some stories.

Steven is done now. They love a relationship story, now that's not on screen anymore he is expendable. If anything I'd say they want him out this week so he and kim can be in Ok! next week.
sheils1
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Andrew_Neil:
“Helen has maintained her immunity for 7 weeks, yet Ashleigh looses hers are 2 days. #favoritism”

If you can remember Toya lost hers too, the power comes at a price.
JillyA
23-07-2014
I love the idea that Percy Bysshe put on another thread ie. that if Helen becomes power HM she can chose to give up her pass and be up for eviction or evict Ash! Please BB!
Tracker321
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“Those who voted for Ashleigh to be Power Housemate put her up for eviction.”

I'm expecting another round of Ashleigh threatening to leave. Whether she's evicted or walks, I hope she goes. Bored with her 'butter wouldn't melt in my mouth' demeanour. She's as arrogant as Helen.
GibsonSG
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Tom-Bennett.:
“Are youse the same people who keep belting on about having Helen's free pass taking away? Just saying .........”

I would think so. typical of this deluded and double standard forum.
GibsonSG
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by JillyA:
“I love the idea that Percy Bysshe put on another thread ie. that if Helen becomes power HM she can chose to give up her pass and be up for eviction or evict Ash! Please BB!”

Why would that happen. To name a specific housemate to be evicted would break all sorts of broadcasting and gaming laws. Do try not to be silly.
Purple.
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“No , the point is Helens pass is about the only thing whole series that BB have stuck too they've fu**** around with just about all else.”

Exactly.
Wildrover06
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Tom-Bennett.:
“Are youse the same people who keep belting on about having Helen's free pass taking away? Just saying .........”

Ashleigh supporters are probably the most vocal, but the reason for the outrage doesn't change. Any true BB fan who has witnessed the carnage & what has now become a farce of a show due to the incapable production team would be annoyed imo.
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