For goodness sake.... it's not all about Helen!!!! It astonishes me that the people who hate Helen so much just can't stop talking about her. Every single thing that happens in the house is commented upon in how it relates to Helen, even when it doesn't! There were four people who could have saved themselves, who would have thought it would be Steven who didn't take the op to save himself? Just because it was Ash doesn't mean that BB chose to side with Helen; and just because they picked Ashleigh doesn't mean that BB chose to side with Helen, flipping heck! It really is getting ridiculous and I don't even like Helen!

And really, stop with the 'gang' nonsense, there are no gangs, there is no 'Helen's gang'. This is the least divided house there has been in BB for years! Every episode we have conversations taking place between all HMs. There are HMs who prefer the company of one or two more than the others but this doesn't make them a gang, Ashleigh is not in a gang with Chris, Christopher and Mark and Helen isn't in a gang with Ash, Steven and Winston; they just happen to prefer their company and spend time with each other, no-one is being ostracised. Yes, in the beginning, there was a gang mentality fuelled by Pauline, Toya and Helen, but that has long since gone and the gangs no longer exist. To go on about it now when the facts clearly state otherwise, is really annoying.

Ok. Thank you.

This Pep consider itself done told.

I will go and stand in the corner facing the wall repeating over and over girl power, oh no i wont do that, thats what Christopher was made to do by whats her name ermmm Hel something. I might even get someone to shave my hair and make it look a complete mess, nope thats already been done to Christopher by whats her name.

I totally agree this storyline is nothing to do with Helen however, Ashleigh said "when Helen finds out that they had nominated Steve and Ash she would throttle her" whilst Mark on a seperate occassion said "When Helen and Ash find out about this there will be a fight and he won't be able to take on both of them.
In principle this is about one third of the house nominating another third yet they were all most worried about Helen going off on one.

Your right they both did say this ... however it didnt prevent them voting Ash still .. im sure if they were that 'scared' they wouldnt of done it.

Also as many forums have stated Helen was immune from the power alliance vote so how has it got anything to do with her that they picked Steven, Ash, Pav and Zoe - NOTHING. So again how has it got anything to do with her that Steven, Ash, Pav and Zoe decided to save Ash and pick Ashleigh - NOTHING.

So much Helen bashing on this forum..

If only!

I've been saying this all along but you are wasting your time...DS Forum Members will not accept this one little bit! I have also said that the one hm that had more influence than any other wasn't Helen but Steven! DS Forum Members largely contradicted themselves by constantly bleating on about Helen whilst questioning what it is that EVERY hm sees in Steven whilst we all found him repulsive! It was Steven as recent as this week who cried it was the Public Voting for this weeks nominations & everyone else followed in agreement.

We then saw him arrogantly say last night that if the house were nominating he would definitely not be nominated. Steven then went on to take control of the nominations decisions. It has been clear for a while that Stevens opinions have been accepted by everyone.in the house, you can't say that about Helen! It wasn't too long ago we were hearing comments like "Steven is lovely" "Steven is a great guy" even from those who were this weeks PHM's even Ashleigh, Helen could never have received those kinds of comments!

Despite all this, every thing that happens in that house is Helen's fault according to most DS Forum members. People simply can't get past her life before BB, her arguments at the start of the series & her pass to the final! Clearly they all feel that Helen is a huge threat & BIG favorite if they repeatedly have to drag her in to EVERY thread on this forum!! They always say it is human nature to bleat on about those that cause the biggest threat & BB is no different!

I just feel that everyone treads on eggshells around Helen including Big Brother and whilst I admit she has had a couple of good weeks she is always capable of exploding in a frightenning manner if she does not get her own way.

That maybe so but so what! Ashleigh has spouted her mouth off all series behind peoples backs when she hasn't got her own way! So we are saying you can kick off if you don't get your own way as long as you don't do it face to face? The fact is the people who support Ashleigh & who loathe Helen the most, support Ashleighs actions when she has done EVERYTHING that Helen has & more but behind peoples backs!

I'm not getting in to whether things should be dealt with face to face or not because that has been debated on here many times but hm's have a right to voice their opinion on matters how they see fit! Helen's alleged aggressive nature face to face is no more aggressive than Ashleigh's behind her back! Helen's alleged controlling of hm's which is nonsense as I say is actually far less controlling than Ashleigh's with certain other hm's as we have once again seen with the PHM's tasks this week!

problem is OP , its going past the show now.

On Facebook Helen's fans are being down right vile & disgusting to Ashleigh & Chris fans.
not even personal attacks on house mates looks but commenters themselves
it is a tv show for godsakes - says a lot about some not all some of the people watching.
trust helen fans to be the nasty ones - i want to enjoy discussing the show , analysing it but it is nasty name calling. People are not looking at both sides of house mates just pro one house mate & anti another.

Not as bad on here - but the Chris haters & constant threads based on frankly very little. That vid yesterday i finally watched it & was actually in hysterics & shock at how people made a mountain out of a mole hill.
If you want to argue against a house mate have some solid evidence or actually something to back up points made - if BB had a different title to that vid no one would have said anything.

Yes it is getting near the final but will the house mates , their family & friends care in a few weeks or months. No , so we all need to chill.
Ruining the show & now the taking part online experience.
not how it should be for a tv show.
Nasty people will be nasty about anything i guess.

I agree with your point about vile fans, in all honesty I avoid Facebook like the plague for this kind of thing because there are some vile people on there anyway who hide behind computer screens whilst making other peoples lives hell!! That said, Ashleigh's fans on here haven't covered themselves in glory with comments about Helen! Why can't people just agree to disagree, accept they have a favorite & if you are going to debate on here STICK TO THE TOPIC of the thread without making it another opportunity to attack a hm you dislike! My latter points here aren't directed at you personally Natilly, I use 'you' in the plural sense relating to all forum members!

I am loathed to stick up for Helen because I am not a fan of hers but I don't lay the blame at her door. It's BB who have manipulated this series by protecting her and her close friends.
BB are the ones who have been grossly unfair and even Helen probably knows this has not been a fair game. She often says she expects to lose her immunity and seems surprised it hasn't happened yet.

Talking behind peoples backs is the whole purpose of Big Brother. In the states, where there are too many phone companies to control income, the plotting an scheming is how you win.
To say that Ashleigh is just as bad as a gossip I accept however the drink fuelled vicious attacks that Helen has made on Dannielle, Mathew and Christopher are totally unacceptable especially when supported by her goons.
Her rudeness to Jale, Christopher and others without a thought for their feelings telling it like it is is unforgivable..
So is Ashleigh the same as Helen?

Spot on with both posts. Just a pity this cant be made a Sticky for everyone to read. So sick of reading the poor Ashleigh posts and demon Helen. Ashleigh has been the happiest I've seen her this week since her last bout of being a PHM. So there was a twist and she's up. Why the concern? She'll be martyred this week and saved, and BB will make a fortune. It's all rather obvious when you have a hm who has a monopoly of support.

that is the problem , some people like Helen some don't. Others like ashleigh & others don't
but people are questioning why people like or dislike certain house mates.
It is getting silly. we shouldnt be defending our opinions.

i am no helen fan but i dont create thread second she speaks or appears on screen , for some posters it is becoming like that now.

You are spot on about that.

I agree & so many duplicate threads & posts which just makes the forum pointless & boring. It also pushes threads with original points of view & original topics out the way & off the front page. Sure we can delve deeper to find them but who can really be bothered doing that!

Fair comment based on exactly how Helen has behaved from the start. If there had been no golden ticket she would have gone weeks ago and the dynamic of the group would have been completely different and imo the whole programme would have been far more enjoyable.

Helen would not have been able to form a little gang around her and we might have seen far more from individual HMs who could have acted quite differently without having to seek her approval or avoid her anger.

I'd say that the thread topic has been a "whoosh" here lol

Ever listen to waves cresting onto a shoreline and try to seperate the differencs between each indvidual wave?


You just can't but it is as nice to watch as is this years BB.

Helen's 'little gang' in the first week consisted of (as i think) -

Helen
Tamara
Pauline
Mark
Toya

3 of those have been evicted ... She grew closer to Ash in week 2 (when Tamara left) and the same with Steven. Her and Kimberley only got closer a number of weeks later due to Steven and Kims relationship.

I do believe regardless of the 'golden ticket' Helen is being Helen.

Which is really scary.