Which I think came to an end after the first few days, I haven't seen her do much shouting since - have you? I think she has now realised her mistakes & has grown as a person because of them. Shes so intelligent.

Agree with this, i used to like him but having seen his sly ways gone right off him.

The thing about that Friday rant was that it was again focused on the same people when really none of it was their doing.

If he had any guts he would have gone for BB, it was their doing from start to finish. When it wasn't enough having Bianca come in and gossip about Danielle, they had the "chat show" hosted by Steven.

Though TBH, if he had a fraction of the integrity/intelligence he is being credited with, he should have (Christopher as well) have pulled her up weeks ago on the inconsistencies she had shown.

What would be the point of Chris telling Helen to her face what she is?
We are intelligent enough to work it out ourselves.

Fair points but I don't think it's the housemates job to necessarily expose each others inconsistencies and back stories - they will of course have developed personal opinions of each others honesty and trustworthiness which obviously determines who they spend time with etc.

Yes agreed last week was a hatchet-job on Danielle and still by the end no-one had actually proved anything of substance, except as Christopher pointed out not everyone is either in box A or box B

Some people are pacifists and will avoid confrontation at all costs. I like Chris; in the diary room he's singing from the same page as many viewers.

We are indeed capable of seeing them all for ourselve's, so why does Chris bother to keep telling us from the comfort of the DR? Does he think we too lack the intelligence....er no Chris, some of us can also see what you are too.

He's just helping us out, after all we only get to see approx 50 mins a day, he gets to see them all day, every day so I think he does know more about the other hms than we do.

His intelligence is wasted in the Diary Room - he needed to use his talents (witt and wisdom) to even try alter the early dynamics in the house - he did NOTHING! That is poor judgment.

By that reasoning we should then accept what they ALL say as being the truth as they all see each other more than we do.

Depends on how much those inconsistencies clash with what your own personal integrity is saying.

For instance Danielle's talk of finishing school leading to marrying somebody rich, her rubbish about stockbrokers and bankers.

Anybody with any integrity would have picked her up on that.
One because it's a pack of lies, two because it's an appalling attitude to have, three it's a way of looking down on other people.

And don't even go there with her attitude to faith, complete lack of consistency, espousing the opposite of beliefs within the church she says she belongs to.

How does an intelligent/educated person sit and listen to BS about marrying somebody rich when that same person is spouting Catholic doctrine.

The phrase "easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter the kingdom of heaven" must be itching to come out.

Chris says he is looking for intelligent conversation, well there was a prime starting point.

I agree there is plenty here for any of them to sit and chat about - who knows maybe they did ? It would have been shown in the early BB series but that is a conversation that would have definitely ended on the cutting room floor on Channel 5 BB. However, Danielle is not the first and wont be the last avowed Christian who doesn't live up to the strict moral code they apparently believe in.

He's almost certainly answering questions that get edited out. It makes it look as though he's just walked in there to spout off.

But then Chris wouldn't be carrying on as he does in the DR.

You can't have it both ways, either he is to be believed and there is no intellectual stimulation, something he was alluding to about the new HM and "intelligence", or he is lying.

Or alternatively, he's playing the "I'm the only clever one game" for the benefits of the public vote and his own fragile ego, and deliberately avoids giving anybody the chance himself of proving that wrong.

Don't get me wrong - I'm giving Chris and Christopher the benefit of the doubt about their intelligence - I too haven't witnessed that much.

As has been said better than me by many posters over recent days (and to some degree I'm guilty of this too) Chris's (and Christophers) intelligence is actually used as a bit of a self-satisfied pat on the back by the supporters - he's clever -> he says what I think -> I'm clever!

... Chris - BB15's echo chamber!

i agree. However, he can self-analyse and see the other persons point of view as well. The first view weeks were so brutal with the strong females in the house fighting like cats and dogs - that if you are not prepared to start WW3 you will try and make peace.