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The hyprocrisy of Ash
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BabelBrook
23-07-2014
Was Ash not one of those along with the rest of the cool gang who said Marlon should have faced the public like a man yet is happy to replace himself with Ashleigh.
Jequila
23-07-2014
The only decent thing about Ash is his very sensible mother.
S_J1
23-07-2014
100% agree!

Also I wanted Ash out this week. He isn't entertaining, he doesn't do much. Steven although I am not a fan is much more entertaining than him and would have liked him to stay. Ash is always protected by his side kick!
TJ-67
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Was Ash not one of those along with the rest of the cool gang who said Marlon should have faced the public like a man yet is happy to replace himself with Ashleigh.”

He also said (this week) he was glad that he's been up for eviction 5 times.
shelleyj89
23-07-2014
This is a very good point, OP.
big_erm
23-07-2014
The difference being Marlon saved himself..

Ash was saved by Steven, Zoe and Pav.
MysteriousOz
23-07-2014
He is terrified of going or even being up, he makes out he is all cool and chilled but he is desperate for fame and money
Val_Beam
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Was Ash not one of those along with the rest of the cool gang who said Marlon should have faced the public like a man yet is happy to replace himself with Ashleigh.”

The face on him when he got nominated was enough..
Val_Beam
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“He is terrified of going or even being up, he makes out he is all cool and chilled but he is desperate for fame and money”

Well as he said himself,his good looks have got him where he is today...Pr**k
BabelBrook
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by big_erm:
“The difference being Marlon saved himself..

Ash was saved by Steven, Zoe and Pav.”

It didn't stop him saying "No, no I want to face a public vote like a man, save ......."
PercyBysshe
23-07-2014
They had to choose someone - they chose Ash.
Cranberryapple
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“He is terrified of going or even being up, he makes out he is all cool and chilled but he is desperate for fame and money”

He is, isn't he!!

When he said to Winston 2 weks ago he would hate to go as it would mean waiting on them getting out to meet up again and go clubbing...Has he no friends at home?

He strikes me as someone who is loving the lazy, looked after, doing sod all, plenty free booze 'n cigs and a kiss and a grope with his side kick in a Summer Camp and doesn't want it to end.

Has anybody ever heard him say when he's up " Oh well if I go I go, I get to see my family and mates and have a blast "? I haven't.

All you see is someone who looks like they're about to be fed to the Wolves. And his near on obsession with how the crowd react is bordering on embarrassing

He has sailed through on Helen's coat tails, that's for sure.
big_erm
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“He is, isn't he!!

When he said to Winston 2 weks ago he would hate to go as it would mean waiting on them getting out to meet up again and go clubbing...Has he no friends at home?

He strikes me as someone who is loving the lazy, looked after, doing sod all, plenty free booze 'n cigs and a kiss and a grope with his side kick in a Summer Camp and doesn't want it to end.

Has anybody ever heard him say when he's up " Oh well if I go I go, I get to see my family and mates and have a blast "? I haven't.

All you see is someone who looks like they're about to be fed to the Wolves. And his near on obsession with how the crowd react is bordering on embarrassing

He has sailed through on Helen's coat tails, that's for sure.”



I cant see how you say he's sailed through because of Helen ?

Week 2 - Up for eviction - saved - Pauline went
Week 3 - Up for eviction - saved - Toya went
Week 4 - Up for eviction - saved - Matthew went
And if he was up this week with Steven , my money would be on Steven going.

The public hate Helen , if anything he isnt going to sail through because of Helen.
Radical Joe
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by TJ-67:
“He also said (this week) he was glad that he's been up for eviction 5 times.”

He did, because he said it validates his presence in the house. I don't see how accepting being saved on this occasion detracts from what he said.

Originally Posted by big_erm:
“The difference being Marlon saved himself..

Ash was saved by Steven, Zoe and Pav.”

Quite. It's a slight inconvenient truth for those who would compare this situation to that of Marlon. Also, Marlon was initially put up following a normal noms process - Ash was put up following a discussion amongst a cabal.
Radical Joe
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by big_erm:
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I cant see how you say he's sailed through because of Helen ?

Week 2 - Up for eviction - saved - Pauline went
Week 3 - Up for eviction - saved - Toya went
Week 4 - Up for eviction - saved - Matthew went
And if he was up this week with Steven , my money would be on Steven going.

The public hate Helen , if anything he isnt going to sail through because of Helen.”

Agreed. I'd actually like the poster to come back and explain just how Ash has sailed through on Helen's coat tails. The only possible explanation I can think of is that Ash believes that Helen has a massive fanbase, and it's that fanbase that has got him through.
Cranberryapple
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by big_erm:
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I cant see how you say he's sailed through because of Helen ?

Week 2 - Up for eviction - saved - Pauline went
Week 3 - Up for eviction - saved - Toya went
Week 4 - Up for eviction - saved - Matthew went
And if he was up this week with Steven , my money would be on Steven going.

The public hate Helen , if anything he isnt going to sail through because of Helen.”


I mean his time in there!

All it involves is sunbathing and Helen, that's about it!!

Could be the editing but IMO, this is how he is.
Cranberryapple
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Radical Joe:
“Agreed. I'd actually like the poster to come back and explain just how Ash has sailed through on Helen's coat tails. The only possible explanation I can think of is that Ash believes that Helen has a massive fanbase, and it's that fanbase that has got him through.”

I am talking about Ash as a house mate. He's been lodged in Helen's backside for the past 4 weeks. He has nothing to offer other than being Helen's side kick and likes to chill in the garden. Boring as hell bloke
pope_tart
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“He is terrified of going or even being up...”

isn't he just...nobody physically sweats as much as him on eviction night
Radical Joe
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“I am talking about Ash as a house mate. He's been lodged in Helen's backside for the past 4 weeks. He has nothing to offer other than being Helen's side kick and likes to chill in the garden. Boring as hell bloke”

He's brought more to the house outside of being Helen's friend than Ashleigh has outside of being Helen's nemesis. Seriously, you only need to look at the popularity polls to see what people thought of her before she heard the boos for Helen and teamed up with Toya. The worst thing for Ashleigh's popularity would be for Helen to have been evicted. she's a shell of a HM without that angle.
Cranberryapple
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Radical Joe:
“He's brought more to the house outside of being Helen's friend than Ashleigh has outside of being Helen's nemesis. Seriously, you only need to look at the popularity polls to see what people thought of her before she heard the boos for Helen and teamed up with Toya. The worst thing for Ashleigh's popularity would be for Helen to have been evicted. she's a shell of a HM without that angle.”

What are Ash's storylines? Helen, that's what they are.

Apart from this one I don't think I have come across an Ash thread!! Have you?

What's Ashleigh got to do with it?
Addisonian
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“He is terrified of going or even being up, he makes out he is all cool and chilled but he is desperate for fame and money”

This.
He looks completely paranoid and as though he's about to throw up every time he is up.
The silly prick needs to realise that he is NOT likeable.
JanisElizabeth
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Addisonian:
“This.
He looks completely paranoid and as though he's about to throw up every time he is up.
The silly prick needs to realise that he is NOT likeable.”

Well I quite like him
PercyBysshe
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Well I quite like him ”

So do I.
Addisonian
23-07-2014
Duplicate
Radical Joe
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“What are Ash's storylines? Helen, that's what they are.

Apart from this one I don't think I have come across an Ash thread!! Have you?

What's Ashleigh got to do with it?”

If you're going to accuse one HM of getting by on Helen's coat tails, it's only fair to point out that the same is true for others. Ashleigh's public popularity rests solely on her supposed dislike for Helen.
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