Do you watch the programe? ffs the other housemates saved Ash and i think you will find it was Winston who said that.

What difference does it make?
When they were all by te buton they agreed they would face the axe together - Marlon took the bait and pressed. At that point there were calls for people to just take it - be safe.
Now you have the same situation, only difference is that Ash didn't press a real button, he still accepted the pass and did not face the eviction 'like a man'.

It might seem harsh, but after the crap they gave Marlon, it is merited.

Might as well copy & paste my post on this from another thread.

Yes Ash is a total hypocrite. He should have refused and stood up for eviction like a man right? Wasn't that what was said to Marlon when he pressed the button? Poor Marlon was thrown to the wolves for not stepping up to face the vote, so why not here? .

For me it boils down to this-

Marlons 'friends' were annoyed, angry and in his face because he did not face the public eviction 'like a man' and like they all professed that they would do if they had the chance to face the vote.

If this is actually true they why were they not consistent in their annoyance at Ash for happily ducking the vote when he had the opportunity to also 'face it like a man'?

Winston didn't rage at and disown Ash as a friend or lecture him whilst pretending to be doing it for honourable reasons for not standing up for eviction.

I don't blame Ash in the slightest for the actual decision, much like I never blamed Marlon. I've always been of the opinion it's all a game show. Always.

The sole problem for me is the total lack of consistency, and Ash being 100% happy to save himself if the opportunity arose, whilst slaughtering Marlon for the very same thing. .

That's all.

Ashleigh doesn't need to be involved with Helen to have a story line, she is a good house mate in her own right. Her friendship with Danielle for one was her main story, her strong willed way of getting on when it's so blatant she's had a whole load of crap aimed at her ( showing her DR entries to cause conflict for her ) her blossoming friendship with Chris and Christopher, her ability to suss out what is going on. She's not one of them who is second guessing every move BB is making. Ash on the other hand is a paranoid wreck who spends his day sunbathing and wondering what the crowd think of him, oh and hanging on to Helen's every word.

Only my opinion, of course.

Holy Moly I am agreeing with you

Seriously though, it's very true. I thought the whole way they attacked Marlon was bang out of order, especially his 'Mates'. Ash in the DR going on about it was as if Marlon had just murdered someone. And Winston's reaction, well that was beyond belief

Just like Ashliegh didnt say to BB "Oh, ive got the pwer and I'm immune? I dont want to be immune, put me up"

Oh how i larfed.

I do understand the comparison with Marlon's actions but I don't necessarily agree because, as has been pointed out, Ash was saved by someone else but the real point that I feel is being overlooked by many of us on the forum is that in this case and a fair few others where a choice has had to be made it's been between saving themselves or someone they've never particularly got along with or liked so I think the choices have been understandable. Yes people will form alliances in the house but at base BB is a competition.

Ash is an idle tosser. Idle in the house and by his own admition idle out of it. He is swanning along as Helen's wingman. He has had a three month holiday in the sun and I think he is terrified of going out into the real world.

I dont totally agree.He throws himself into tasks wholeheartedly and seems to enjoy it in there. He is close to Helen but. he is entitled to buddy up with whoever he wishes even if we dislike her.As for him being saved it was a group decision someone had to take the save why not him.

Why should he ? ,Why should he put someone who's only been there a week infront of himself ,when he's done 6 weeks in there

Ashleigh would still have been up irrespective of Ash being saved or not

It seems extremely arrogant of you to make the assumption that Ashleigh is only popular because of Helen. You have no idea what people's reasons are for liking her or anyone else for that matter.

......Duplicate

Now that's just silly. Ashleigh wasn't even in the equation and yet .......

This..


He may throw himself in to the tasks, they all do, that's about all he does do. The 'group' decision was basically Steven's. The other 2 ( Zoe and Pav ) lets be honest had no say in it. They're the newbies, of course they would have no clout.

Buddying up to Helen is what his time in there amounts to.

Ash is the very definition of "resting on pretty" or "relying on that body".

He has no plans at the very moment to be a man. He's stuck in lad mode.

Now I have been a bit of a fan and I use that term loosely. He seemed to be a lighthearted fun loving chilled out kind of guy with a bit of a 90's grunge thing - I sorta like men like that.

I thought he was a good guy who happened to be a sheep and got caught up with Helen etc. I identified with him a bit as I was once best friends with someone like Helen and had blind faith/loyalty in her and defended even when she was wrong. When I realised what an utter sheep I had been I set myself free.

I had expected by now, that he'd wise up too but he hasn't. I am disappointed. He does throw himself into tasks and I enjoy that but he is not as laid back as he'd like us to believe. He much like Helen seem to be somewhat afraid for this all to end. They almost want to stay in that house forever.

There have been moments where I was disappointed because I though shed be more that just a pretty face. You know maggotgate, s1utgate, poolgate, pantsgate, and His firm position as Darth Vader to Helen's Senator Palpatine.

Yet the most disappointing thing for me about Ash is his reliance on pretty. It takes a lot of work to be a decent human being not to mention a good man and woman let alone a great one. He just doesn't seemed arsed about that. His pretty has gotten him the far in life and he's probably hoping it will take him the rest.

He has potential. I can see it but either he doesn't or he can't be bothered so he's happy to plod along in lad mode. Also is it me or has he gotten really unattractive looking lately. I have been thinking this for a while now. His looks seem to be deteriorating. He was phwoar when he first walked in now he looks meh. The Dark Side will do that to ya.

Sorry this is longer than intended.

P.S I was gong to vote him this week over Steven. And I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT STEVEN OUT!

Ash every week tries to guilt trip others not to nominate him "****ing ell, I've been up six times me", yes Ash, that's because you are a boring **** and everyone hates you

The thing is, has Helen not figured out yet that it's not just Ashleigh who's nominating Ash. If he's been up six times then clearly he has had more nominations than others which means there must be a few "two faced backstabbers" who are nominating him. She doesn't seem to grasp that

Totally Agree They are like Lord and Lady of the Manor. Lazy so he is Not even do his own laundry Helens doing it for him. All he's doing is lazing in the sun eating and drinking. Your right a holiday.

True. He did boast that he has never done a day's work in his life. Maybe he is afraid he might have to when he gets out.

Radical Joe - Another FM who is obsessed with Ashleigh.
I'm reading through this thread about Ash and, lo and behold, Joe has to chime in with more references to Ashleigh.

I'll probably get shot down by the PC brigade for this but there were three men and one lady, they had to make an on the spot decision, I think they should have manned up and let Zoe be safe.

Like Helen, he's an utter hypocrite. He's a complete moron.

what's he going to do when his modelling days are over, surely that can't be too far away, it's going to be a bit of a culture shock for him suddenly to have start doing a proper days work, surely his mum won't keep him forever, the lazy, good for nothing, workshy little twonk?

All of the 'popular gang' will know about the sort of same situation with Marlon, but they're too much of utter cowards to say anything. They're completely spineless!

Ash : "are you sure, like?" not a thought for either of the newbies