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Has Mark's grovelling to Ash lost it for him.
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conchie
23-07-2014
To me Mark lost any self respect when he went grovelling to Ash when the reveal came out. He came over as a snivelling back stabber who would do anything to save himself. Does he forget that its the public who are watching this. I think that one incident has lost him the final.

There is only ONE winner now in this series. As much as I love Ashleigh and Chris, and would LOVE to see either of them walk out that door the winner, I don't think it will happen. Therefore the only winner left in there is Christopher. He is suddenly emerging as the one to beat now, and I can't see anyone winning it over him now. He would be a worthy winner in a total and utter shambles of a series.
S_J1
23-07-2014
Can't believe how he acted when he came clean! such a creep and brown nosing. Didn't expect that of him.
Annsyre
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by S_J1:
“Can't believe how he acted when he came clean! such a creep and brown nosing. Didn't expect that of him.”

I wasn't surprised he is a very vain and shallow person and totally self-obsessed and self-centred.

I console myself knowing that there is a court order out against him and the bailiffs will be waiting for him when he leaves. Then the person he cheated out of rent will get his money back.
GreenEyes8
23-07-2014
Oh Yes.....Judas has lost his Crown for sure......Chris and Ashleigh are now favourites with the bookies and so they should be.......!!!!...

I just hope that Vile Helen and Arsehole Ash go out before the both of 'em............
Callous
23-07-2014
It depends if BB show viewers the clips we have seen online.

If they don't make the edit ....then it didn't happen.
aggielane
23-07-2014
he was such a sniveling little coward, how scared of Helen and Ash is he?
Kabira
23-07-2014
Mark is ruthless and I did not expect anything else from him.

Ashleigh and Chris did Christopher a favour by not making him a part of the power alliance.

They had no intentions of putting him up but he has been able to not be a part of this and escape any fallout from it.
gilesb
23-07-2014
I think he was starting to show this side with his treatment of Christopher.

Clearly told him he didn't fancy him etc.... hears the loud cheers for Christopher and notices the new housemates spend time with Christopher and suddenly Mark restarts flirting with Christopher.... only to then cool it off when he decided it was maybe not in his best interests in the house.... poor Christopher.

Mark is sly and is desperate to win. The ultimate faker trying to steal every little second of the camera time he can.

His turncoat sucking up does not in the least bit surprise me, it may lose him some votes but i don't think he was a likely winner anyway.

I think Winston is the most likely to win at this stage.
NorfolkPoppy
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by gilesb:
“I think he was starting to show this side with his treatment of Christopher.

Clearly told him he didn't fancy him etc.... hears the loud cheers for Christopher and notices the new housemates spend time with Christopher and suddenly Mark restarts flirting with Christopher.... only to then cool it off when he decided it was maybe not in his best interests in the house.... poor Christopher.

Mark is sly and is desperate to win. The ultimate faker trying to steal every little second of the camera time he can.

His turncoat sucking up does not in the least bit surprise me, it may lose him some votes but i don't think he was a likely winner anyway.

I think Winston is the most likely to win at this stage.”

Agree totally.

However, I don't think CH5 will show the clips on the HLs
Penny Crayon
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by conchie:
“To me Mark lost any self respect when he went grovelling to Ash when the reveal came out. He came over as a snivelling back stabber who would do anything to save himself. Does he forget that its the public who are watching this. I think that one incident has lost him the final.

There is only ONE winner now in this series. As much as I love Ashleigh and Chris, and would LOVE to see either of them walk out that door the winner, I don't think it will happen. Therefore the only winner left in there is Christopher. He is suddenly emerging as the one to beat now, and I can't see anyone winning it over him now. He would be a worthy winner in a total and utter shambles of a series.”

Yes and the funny thing is none of them are seeing it. They're all screeching and fighting and winding themselves up - he is treated as an irrelevance and largely ignored - he's never important enough to be included in anything good or bad.

It is funny watching them all tied themselves up in knots. Sometimes good things happen to good people and the best things in life are worth waiting for. He has taken a lot of c*ap in there. I just really hope he walks out the winner.

Whatever happens to anyone else in the meantime ......................I don't really care.
tff
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by gilesb:
“I think he was starting to show this side with his treatment of Christopher.

Clearly told him he didn't fancy him etc.... hears the loud cheers for Christopher and notices the new housemates spend time with Christopher and suddenly Mark restarts flirting with Christopher.... only to then cool it off when he decided it was maybe not in his best interests in the house.... poor Christopher.

Mark is sly and is desperate to win. The ultimate faker trying to steal every little second of the camera time he can.

His turncoat sucking up does not in the least bit surprise me, it may lose him some votes but i don't think he was a likely winner anyway.

I think Winston is the most likely to win at this stage.”

Think about the endgame and vote splits.
If Christopher, Ashleigh and Chris are in the finale with Winston and Helen - who do you choose? The vote split will prevent Christopher, Ashleigh or Chris winning.
JillyA
23-07-2014
He was playing quite a good game - liked in the house, playing up to the cameras, standing up for people in one to one situations, making himself popular inside and out (playing the game - I don't treat playing the game as a bad thing unlike some other people do - it is actually a game).

However, the clip of him telling Helen, Ash and Steven about the new HMs and what Danielle, Biannca and Matthew means he has shot himself in the foot in my opinion. Crawling to the so called cool kids, stabbing others in the back. He has gone right down in my estimation. At the same time we see a clip of Ashleigh having a reasonable conversation with sensible housemates (Christopher, Zoe, Pav and Winston - with Chris). This conversation would never have happened if Helen, Ash and Steven were there because she would not have been allowed to finish a sentence.

I still think the 3 of them should have just said to Helen after her sarcastic comments - which 4 would you put up then Helen and who would you power HMs have been. Surely even Helen isn't that daft to not realise she would have put Ashleigh, Chris and Christopher up. I can't believe she said Ash is the only man in here to give Chris anytime. We as the public clearly say he has friendships with Christopher and Mark
momoriro
23-07-2014
It clearly shows the imbalance of power in that house that Mark knows he's done for having gone up against Helish's crew, it's sad that he feels he now has too prostrate himself and beg for redemption from the bitch and her girly-boys.
PercyBysshe
23-07-2014
Pipsqueak is clearly intimidated by certain housemates.
TheGreatKatsby
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by momoriro:
“It clearly shows the imbalance of power in that house that Mark knows he's done for having gone up against Helish's crew, it's sad that he feels he now has too prostrate himself and beg for redemption from the bitch and her girly-boys.”

Absolutely. Too bad he didn't just stand strong and in effect they could have taken Helen's power away couldn't they? She would have been left with her lackeys Ash and Steven and the rest of the HMs could form a larger group.
kazmate
23-07-2014
yeah shot himself right in the foot, plus the way he treats christopher
sheils1
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“he was such a sniveling little coward, how scared of Helen and Ash is he?”

He isnt scared of them, he wanted to explain why they put Ash up, there is nothing wrong with that.He is frioendly with all in there and i dont think he enjoyed being part of the PHM team.
AOTB
23-07-2014
Weak simpering grovelling embarrassment.
Mishcoll
23-07-2014
I think it depends on what gets shown tonight as to whether Marks popularity will suffer, I hope they do show both his and Ashleighs explanations as that would definitely put him in a bad light
zx50
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by GreenEyes8:
“Oh Yes.....Judas has lost his Crown for sure......Chris and Ashleigh are now favourites with the bookies and so they should be.......!!!!...

I just hope that Vile Helen and Arsehole Ash go out before the both of 'em............”

It will be a great series if Helen gets booted out first on the final night, and she gets a load of boos. Question is, will the producers allow that to happen?
FusionFury
23-07-2014
I wouldn't say that, he's still a massive favourite.

Scousers know how to vote!
JanisElizabeth
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“He isnt scared of them, he wanted to explain why they put Ash up, there is nothing wrong with that.He is frioendly with all in there and i dont think he enjoyed being part of the PHM team.”

Please tell me you're joking. From what I saw he absolutely loved it!!
zx50
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“I wouldn't say that, he's still a massive favourite.

Scousers know how to vote!”

The rest of the country's voting for their favourite as well.
Pitman
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“I wouldn't say that, he's still a massive favourite.

Scousers know how to vote!”

blimey, bless their little cottons, they are really catching up on the Mersey
Alrightmate
23-07-2014
I'd say so.
This was quite probably his big opportunity to really show some fortitude and demonstrate that there was a lot more to him than playacting for attention. This was a crucial point where he could have shown real character.

But no, it appears that he thinks that playacting will see him through. The first opportunity he has to take a stance and show strength, he just turns into a weasel.
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