I think the ex HMs all talking about Winston and Zoe's "roleplaying" might have given him anxieties too.
Has Mark's grovelling to Ash lost it for him.
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Mark is a little weasel. Showed his true colours there didn't he .Hopefully Ashleigh Chris and Christoper will nominate him next week as I think Zoe and Pav will if they stay.
Being that two-faced can mean that Mark will end up with no friends. I don't like the way he treats Christopher either. He has definitely gone way done my rank list now
Originally Posted by jeannie26:
“Mark is a little weasel. Showed his true colours there didn't he .Hopefully Ashleigh Chris and Christoper will nominate him next week as I think Zoe and Pav will if they stay.”
“Mark is a little weasel. Showed his true colours there didn't he .Hopefully Ashleigh Chris and Christoper will nominate him next week as I think Zoe and Pav will if they stay.”
Depending on how BB mucks about with noms next week 2 could be enough to put Mark up
Originally Posted by conchie:
“To me Mark lost any self respect when he went grovelling to Ash when the reveal came out. He came over as a snivelling back stabber who would do anything to save himself. Does he forget that its the public who are watching this. I think that one incident has lost him the final.
There is only ONE winner now in this series. As much as I love Ashleigh and Chris, and would LOVE to see either of them walk out that door the winner, I don't think it will happen. Therefore the only winner left in there is Christopher. He is suddenly emerging as the one to beat now, and I can't see anyone winning it over him now. He would be a worthy winner in a total and utter shambles of a series.”
“To me Mark lost any self respect when he went grovelling to Ash when the reveal came out. He came over as a snivelling back stabber who would do anything to save himself. Does he forget that its the public who are watching this. I think that one incident has lost him the final.
There is only ONE winner now in this series. As much as I love Ashleigh and Chris, and would LOVE to see either of them walk out that door the winner, I don't think it will happen. Therefore the only winner left in there is Christopher. He is suddenly emerging as the one to beat now, and I can't see anyone winning it over him now. He would be a worthy winner in a total and utter shambles of a series.”
This is absolutely how I feel too.
Marks grovelling lost it all for him, the prize and viewer respect.
he has bsdly misjudged the situation
my worry now is how producers will engineernthe prog to svoid Christopher winning
Originally Posted by jeannie26:
“Mark is a little weasel. Showed his true colours there didn't he .Hopefully Ashleigh Chris and Christoper will nominate him next week as I think Zoe and Pav will if they stay.”
“Mark is a little weasel. Showed his true colours there didn't he .Hopefully Ashleigh Chris and Christoper will nominate him next week as I think Zoe and Pav will if they stay.”
What a jUDAS he turned out to be ....Hope he goes once we get Stephen out !!!!
Originally Posted by conchie:
“To me Mark lost any self respect when he went grovelling to Ash when the reveal came out. He came over as a snivelling back stabber who would do anything to save himself. Does he forget that its the public who are watching this. I think that one incident has lost him the final.
There is only ONE winner now in this series. As much as I love Ashleigh and Chris, and would LOVE to see either of them walk out that door the winner, I don't think it will happen. Therefore the only winner left in there is Christopher. He is suddenly emerging as the one to beat now, and I can't see anyone winning it over him now. He would be a worthy winner in a total and utter shambles of a series.”
“To me Mark lost any self respect when he went grovelling to Ash when the reveal came out. He came over as a snivelling back stabber who would do anything to save himself. Does he forget that its the public who are watching this. I think that one incident has lost him the final.
There is only ONE winner now in this series. As much as I love Ashleigh and Chris, and would LOVE to see either of them walk out that door the winner, I don't think it will happen. Therefore the only winner left in there is Christopher. He is suddenly emerging as the one to beat now, and I can't see anyone winning it over him now. He would be a worthy winner in a total and utter shambles of a series.”
No Mark lost it by being the biggest and most obvious game player.
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“He isnt scared of them, he wanted to explain why they put Ash up, there is nothing wrong with that.He is frioendly with all in there and i dont think he enjoyed being part of the PHM team.”
“He isnt scared of them, he wanted to explain why they put Ash up, there is nothing wrong with that.He is frioendly with all in there and i dont think he enjoyed being part of the PHM team.”
He embroidered the tale to pretend he fought for Ash - he didn't, he raised some lame objections then caved pretty quickly; he pretended he was shaking and crying when he said Ash's name in the control room - he didn't, he was wittering on about how he felt like he was in a spaceship.
However, by doing this, he made it seem as if he was the hapless victim of evil Ashleigh and Chris, getting himself off the hook and saving himself from the noms that might have ensued. Yes, it's a game, but playing it like a weak pantywaist is just not attractive.
Of course, the other issue here is Helen carrying on as if nominating Ash were beyond the pale, and Steven boring on as if being nominated weren't part of the f*cking show.
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“He isnt scared of them, he wanted to explain why they put Ash up, there is nothing wrong with that.He is frioendly with all in there and i dont think he enjoyed being part of the PHM team.”
“He isnt scared of them, he wanted to explain why they put Ash up, there is nothing wrong with that.He is frioendly with all in there and i dont think he enjoyed being part of the PHM team.”
He was called to the diary room alone and was asked who HE wanted to put up for eviction. He could have chosen anybody and accepted the responsibility. But no, he's avoided all responsibility and is directing all the blame to the two housemates who gave him immunity.
Originally Posted by Callous:
“It depends if BB show viewers the clips we have seen online.
If they don't make the edit ....then it didn't happen.”
“It depends if BB show viewers the clips we have seen online.
If they don't make the edit ....then it didn't happen.”
Pretty sure that will be left on the cutting floor.
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“I wouldn't say that, he's still a massive favourite.
Scousers know how to vote!”
“I wouldn't say that, he's still a massive favourite.
Scousers know how to vote!”
According to their tribe? Surely most people are more sophisticated than that?
I don't think Mark has ever really liked Helens group, but his game plan seems to be to try and keep them sweet, and it's worked for him so far.
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I don't think Mark has ever really liked Helens group, but his game plan seems to be to try and keep them sweet, and it's worked for him so far.”
“I don't think Mark has ever really liked Helens group, but his game plan seems to be to try and keep them sweet, and it's worked for him so far.”
Whenever something happens that Helen wouldn't approve of, certain housemates will rush to her to beg forgiveness. They all know that Helen can cause the atmosphere in the house to turn sour at any moment and that's why she's had so many housemates up her @r$e.
Such a coward and Ashleigh was so brave taking all the responsibilty. She knows her own mind and is not a people pleaser
I don't know which is worse from either trying to blame others for everything, or to go crawling to Helen practically begging to be forgiven.
Maybe it's the crawling and begging which is worse because I think it's harder to respect somebody like that.
Maybe it's the crawling and begging which is worse because I think it's harder to respect somebody like that.
As much as I agree that Mark is a walking horror show, he couldn't fail to win this show if he tried.
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“he was such a sniveling little coward, how scared of Helen and Ash is he?”
“he was such a sniveling little coward, how scared of Helen and Ash is he?”
So much for the "I can handle them" - he's such a snivelling little bullsh!tter. Cannot stand him.
Originally Posted by gilesb:
“I think he was starting to show this side with his treatment of Christopher.
Clearly told him he didn't fancy him etc.... hears the loud cheers for Christopher and notices the new housemates spend time with Christopher and suddenly Mark restarts flirting with Christopher.... only to then cool it off when he decided it was maybe not in his best interests in the house.... poor Christopher.”
“I think he was starting to show this side with his treatment of Christopher.
Clearly told him he didn't fancy him etc.... hears the loud cheers for Christopher and notices the new housemates spend time with Christopher and suddenly Mark restarts flirting with Christopher.... only to then cool it off when he decided it was maybe not in his best interests in the house.... poor Christopher.”
yes, and it seemed very clear judging by the watery eyes and OTT enthusiasm, that he still had the hots for Matthew last night.
Originally Posted by What a shambles:
“As much as I agree that Mark is a walking horror show, he couldn't fail to win this show if he tried.”
“As much as I agree that Mark is a walking horror show, he couldn't fail to win this show if he tried.”
I don't think he'll win.
Knowing the way this season has been edited I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't shown at all and Mark goes on to win.
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I don't think Mark has ever really liked Helens group, but his game plan seems to be to try and keep them sweet, and it's worked for him so far.”
“I don't think Mark has ever really liked Helens group, but his game plan seems to be to try and keep them sweet, and it's worked for him so far.”
...that's the impression I get too. I think Mark pretends to like Helen etc because he is going for the easy option of having a smooth ride to the final, he is the biggest crawler in there.
Originally Posted by Violet_Blue:
“Knowing the way this season has been edited I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't shown at all and Mark goes on to win.”
“Knowing the way this season has been edited I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't shown at all and Mark goes on to win.”
Yes, it all depends on how much they show tonight, but I'm pretty sure that today would have seen any popularity nose dive.
I'd quite like Christopher to win now, mainly because I think Christopher winning would bother Mark more than anyone else. As I think he'd imagine people would like them both if they like them and obviously he'd be more popular of the two.
Am I the only one who wasn't surprised at all by Mark doing this? I saw this coming, he is also very far up Helen's ass like most of them in there.
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