How can a plan backfire when it was the point of the plan in the first place?

They have achieved all they wanted.
Anger and therefore more votes coming in.
Renewed conflict in the house to make the HL show.

Just look at the HL shows this week since Ashleigh was PH. Completely focused on her and the "plotting".
BB creating a "group" when the HM were incapable of doing that themselves.

The producers are working with what they have. The fact is Ashleigh and the other females have not been "Xena warrior princess" standing up for all that is good.
The men don't even figure.

Whoever was given the pass to the final automatically created the "evil" side, it's not the producers fault that the presumed "good" side is nothing of the sort.

I'm more bored of than worried about DSBB. After you've seen the 15th 'Why do people like Ashleigh?' thread pop up, it's time to hang up your boots, I think.

The level of inanity has sunk new depths this year. The threads are repetitive and lazy and the hyperbole is leaking all over the screen. It's all just a matter of whether or not you like Ashleigh. All other discussion seems to be null and void.

If I posted what I really felt about both the show or some of the posters in my 'fan club' who cannot help but get personal or misrepresent me or my posts time and again, I'd be banned.

I still pretty much post as and how I want on the HM's though, regardless of the inevitable backlash/ load of rubbish from many of the usual suspects, that I know I will get.

It's just the internet and not meant to be that big a deal right?

So almost as bad as the forum during BB12 where the whole forum revolved around Aaron. It was so monotonous and viscous too I had to stop posting.

Hyperbole what does tbat mean

Yeah, I suppose it often happens when there is a central 'marmite' character. It was very monotonous during BB12; I think I went on holidays in the middle of it - I'll be doing the same in a couple of weeks so shall miss the intense final showdown. I don't think it was quite so 'basic' during BB12, though. There were some interesting discussions around the issue of gameplaying. There are hints of that in one or two threads but it quickly degenerates into the usual suspects saying 'she's a vile little bitch and you only like her because she doesn't like Helen'. That's about the sum total of the debate, unfortunately.

Exaggerated language - 'Ashleigh is demonic' is one that springs to mind from yesterday.

What exactly is scary about Ashleigh?

Exactly right. The plan is to make more money, and everyone now voting to save Ashleigh rather than sitting on their hands safe in the knowledge that Steven was a sure bet versus Ash is JUST what BB wants.

I bet the week Ashleigh was up against Jale earned them more money than any eviction this series. She has a devoted following who actively campaigned to save her. They'll do it again now.

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ASH. They don't give a monkeys what you think of the producers. They care about controversy and votes. They want their villain and 'cool gang' storyline because it means we root for the underdogs. If it wasn't Ashleigh up, it would have been Chris. And if it wasn't Ash saved, it would have been Steven.

Big Brother - 1. Voter - 0.

I think if you start to take issue with BBC producers you probably are on a sticky wicket.

Bless. Shall we start a support group for recovering BBaholics?
We could call it Big Brother Anonymous - or is that what this is?

I know . It's crazy. We really have to think before we post. There are lots of things I would love to say (especially to some of the nastier fm here) but have had to bite my tongue (or my fingers if we want to be pedantic lol). I've actually managed not to get banned at all this year so fingers crossed.

Big Brother is like reading a news paper nowadays, most of the time it's intention is to cause outrage and uproar to get more people to read/watch.

I think we just have to accept that the old BB is gone and either embrace this new version or stop watching. Personally, I still love it although I do get annoyed at the outside interference these days. Nothing to do about it though so I just keep watching and have a moan about it when I feel like it. What does annoy me are the people who say they want it to be axed because they don't like the new format. If they don't like it, don't watch it but please don't try to spoil it for those of us who still want to watch. *steps off soapbox*

I know how you feel.

I usually get a barrage of abuse from fanatics for merely expressing my opinion. The difference between me and most people here is that I have the balls to state something without sugarcoating it. Someone once asked me why I bothered to express an unpopular opinion on here…..like really? lol. Most members don’t want to hear different views, they just want to pat each other on the back. They’re probably old and conservative too. I will probably get reported for that but it’s the honest truth. Conservative tea drinkers can’t handle different opinions…it’s always been like that.

It’s alright though, I can take it. I’m the hero this forum deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

I think it would be very good if people did post what their actual opinions are.

I do think that' devils advocate' is used too much and I always think why aren't people brave enough to just state what they think.

That is what I find interesting people's genuine thoughts on the HM's and the show.

Yes, because if I really said what I thought of most of the housemates I'd receive a perma ban. Unfortunately there are some posters on here who will alert FM's at the drop of the hat for the most petty things. I received a 48 hour ban last week for the most ridiculous reason, and when I saw what it was for I actually laughed because to be honest I've said far, far worse and got away with it. I can't remember the last time I alerted someone, I only ever do it when I think people are personally abusive, or offensive.

If you happen to piss off an over sensitive poster who can't handle a bit of stick or criticism, or a poster who bares a grudge then look out. Especially in this forum!

Yeah, there seem to be some posters with their finger permanently poised this year. For shame.

I do post my actual genuine opinions on the HM and the show. All the time. It would of course be wrong to assume that anyone who can play Devil's Advocate on occasion (which is surely a good and positive thing) must be playing Devil's Advocate ALL the time.

If anyone is familiar with my posts I really don't think I could ever be accused of not being 'brave' enough to give my frank and honest opinions.This is what gets so many people up in arms at me who try to bait me, call me nasty mean names on the internet, or start PMing other people warning them about me (and that's not even a joke !) etc etc.

I am however limited in how I can reply as I, unlike many who post at me, always try to stick to the T&C's.

This is the only reason I say I cannot post as I would if these restrictions were lifted.

One poster immediately comes to mind, no one who's posted on this thread, but a regular long term poster who've I've had run ins with in the past. Can't handle any kind of criticism or jokey banter.

I think the reason some posters play Devil's advocate is to try to encourage people to state what they think or more to the point to invite them to think. It is all too easy to go with a sort of gut reaction and not actually give it any real thought.

I read a post the other day which said something along the lines of I made my mind up about this HM on day 1 and nothing will change my mind. That to me isn't stating what one thinks but more stating the absence of an active thought process.

Blessed be the Devil's advocates because they may make us think.

I don't know about about the rubbish targeted at you. That is not right and a bit disturbing.
Silly people.
Devils advocate is a bug bear of mine if used too often but yes I agree it can be interesting when used sparingly.

I find it hard expressing myself in English and I would say that is one of my main reasons that I am not that outspoken as I am rubbish arguing my case.

But I do love to read other people's posts especially when I feel they are being very genuine.

If English isn't your first language then I salute you. There are plenty of posts, written by authors who appear to have English as a mother tongue, that are not even close to your standard. I wish I wrote as well as you do in my second languages. Respect.

You & Me both. Worse, I've had suspicions on Voting Results as they're not published, but feel the same about most TV shows now, and 'Millionaire's' Impartial Computer seemed suspect to me from the start. Am old & cynical, but this BB is too blatant to bear IMO and I've no interest in promoting female sex workers. [Or appalling hairdressers]. I'm OUT!!

Ha thanks Kabira, I appreciate you saying that but I'm a big boy and can handle it just fine. As I say- for me it's never all that serious and this is just the internet.

It is a bit weird when you hear different people independently tell you that they have been PM'd by posters who claim they have had 'run ins' with me in the past and 'warn them off me' (I mean come on now- what are we, school kids?), but it is what it is.

I never report people even when they get very personal at me from thread to thread, but I know full well if I ever dared to do the same back that there are a number of people just itching to press the red alert button on me/ try and get me banned.

Oh and by the way you express yourself perfectly in English.