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Anybody ever feel they can't post what they really feel.
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Kabira
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“If English isn't your first language then I salute you. There are plenty of posts, written by authors who appear to have English as a mother tongue, that are not even close to your standard. I wish I wrote as well as you do in my second languages. Respect.”

Thanks, that is very kind of you.
Salv*
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Every year, I stop watching but still keep coming to this forum. The last series I watched all the way through was BB7 and there are a few years (the final couple of C4 years and most of the C5 ones) where I haven't watched more than a handful of episodes and only know what I read on here.
This year was the year that I finally turned off. I didn't even know when launch night was and managed to avoid BB completely and then I broke my damn ankle, have too much time on my hands and started watching through boredom. Now I'm drawn in but I admit I enjoy the forum far, far more than the actual show.”

You should give CBB13 a view. Or CBB9 or even BB14, the closest to the golden era on Ch4.
Rafferty
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“If I posted what I really felt about both the show or some of the posters in my 'fan club' who cannot help but get personal or misrepresent me or my posts time and again, I'd be banned.

I still pretty much post as and how I want on the HM's though, regardless of the inevitable backlash/ load of rubbish from many of the usual suspects, that I know I will get.

It's just the internet and not meant to be that big a deal right?”

I'm slowly recognizing some the usual suspects. It tends to go like this:

FM - posts an agreement with another poster over a particular hm
NEWBIE - makes a snotty remark to both FMs
FM - doesn't respond
NEWBIE - follows the two FMs and makes more snotty remarks
FM - brings up a valid point to NEWBIE
NEWBIE - carries on with increasing digs
FM - tells NEWBIE to go away
NEWBIE - hits alert
FM - gets DS warning or ban

The NEWBIE carries on to do same to others. Original FM been on DS longer than the NEWBIE and ends up with the ban.
Last edited by Rafferty : 23-07-2014 at 14:10
cah
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Not really ..........sometimes it's been a bit 'detrimental' to my status in the past but I generally post what I'm feeling.”

^^^^^^^^^^
This ,really,

I just post what I want when I want within the T&Cs i'm to old and Long in the Tooth to be bothered about what people say/think about me on the 'tinternet' ,as well as being very Thick Skinned
Menk
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Yeah, there seem to be some posters with their finger permanently poised this year. For shame.”

I don't like the idea that it is somehow taboo to alert a post.

Alerting does not get people banned, breaking the rules gets people banned.

We cannot expect the mods to be on top of every thread, it is understandable that they react mainly when alerted.

What would be the point of having rules in the first place if you are never expected (by some sort of unwritten 'honour') to inform those who have the power to inforce them?
Artie
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“It is not so much Asheigh, it is the BBC producers I am up in arms with, I started watching it back in 2000, not missed a year since.

And feel annoyed they can mess around with the programme,

And they gave Helen a free pass, probably because of what she has done, and want to keep Ash in there with her who also grates on me

I do get too involved too engrossed, maybe I need to chillax”

Why would you worry about posting this opinion? It's yours and you're entitled to it. Pretty sure you're not breaking any laws or flaming 😊
patsylimerick
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Menk:
“I don't like the idea that it is somehow taboo to alert a post.

Alerting does not get people banned, breaking the rules gets people banned.

We cannot expect the mods to be on top of every thread, it is understandable that they react mainly when alerted.

What would be the point of having rules in the first place if you are never expected (by some sort of unwritten 'honour') to inform those who have the power to inforce them?”

That's a fair point, but there are always a few (usually the ones shouting the loudest about never doing it) who are beside themselves at the opportunity to baint and report someone they have an issue with. They don't have the resources to view every post, obviously, so they only view what's reported and very literal adherence to the t&cs would see an awful lot more people banned if they were applied across the board.
Rafferty
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Karen_Annanina:
“Of course I feel that I can't post how I really feel! I think I've been really polite and reasonable, yet I've already received a warning from DS. I guess I annoyed someone by being a Helen supporter and Ashleigh-disliker. One concept here that puzzles the hell out of me is "baiting". Isn't that what everyone does on other forums? I think some DS-ers use complaints about alleged baiting as a threat. And, of course, some people do it all the time and get away with it.”

Agreed.

I find that those accusing others of baiting are usually the ones who start the spats.

I agree with you.....about some who trawl to find posts by anyone who doesn't agree with their obsessive 'love' for a particular HM. Then eventually get someone banned by accusing them of baiting.
Vodka_Drinka
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Menk:
“I don't like the idea that it is somehow taboo to alert a post.

Alerting does not get people banned, breaking the rules gets people banned.

We cannot expect the mods to be on top of every thread, it is understandable that they react mainly when alerted.

What would be the point of having rules in the first place if you are never expected (by some sort of unwritten 'honour') to inform those who have the power to inforce them?”

Alerting doesn't get people banned, but it does draw the mods attention towards posts. Some people even trawl through certain posters comments, find something that may have been against T&C's and alert it just because they hold a grudge against that poster. That's pathetic and I have to question why someone would even bother doing that?

It doesn't help that the mods are faceless, almost secretive people who dislike any form of criticism themselves. I'm shocked that this thread is even still here.

This forum is heavy handed in its moderation, and you can get banned for saying things on DS that wouldn't even get a warning on other forums.
Blondie X
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“You should give CBB13 a view. Or CBB9 or even BB14, the closest to the golden era on Ch4.”

I've still watched CBB most of the time, only gave up on normal BB

I did start to watch BB14 and gave up after about 3 weeks
JanisElizabeth
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Alerting doesn't get people banned, but it does draw the mods attention towards posts. Some people even trawl through certain posters comments, find something that may have been against T&C's and alert it just because they hold a grudge against that poster. That's pathetic and I have to question why someone would even bother doing that?

It doesn't help that the mods are faceless, almost secretive people who dislike any form of criticism themselves. I'm shocked that this thread is even still here.

This forum is heavy handed in its moderation, and you can get banned for saying things on DS that wouldn't even get a warning on other forums.”

That is very true. I got a ban last year for something which I considered very trivial and I questioned it. I just got a pretty rude response and told the ban stood. End of.
Vodka_Drinka
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“That is very true. I got a ban last year for something which I considered very trivial and I questioned it. I just got a pretty rude response and told the ban stood. End of.”

Yes, I've had the rude dismissive responses when I've questioned things in the past as well.
Menk
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“That's a fair point, but there are always a few (usually the ones shouting the loudest about never doing it) who are beside themselves at the opportunity to baint and report someone they have an issue with. They don't have the resources to view every post, obviously, so they only view what's reported and very literal adherence to the t&cs would see an awful lot more people banned if they were applied across the board.”

I have seen this happen and I know what you mean.

But my point is more to do with some sort of unwritten law that you just don't alert, if you can't stand the heat sort of thing. While that persists, and the mods generally tend to react to alerts, then the non-WUM is in more danger than the WUM.

If the WUM is breaking the rules then they will get a ban and the situation is eased, but while the 'alerting is for wimps' mentality exists among established posters, the situation remains.
bellabellabella
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“It is not so much Asheigh, it is the BBC producers I am up in arms with, I started watching it back in 2000, not missed a year since.

And feel annoyed they can mess around with the programme,

And they gave Helen a free pass, probably because of what she has done, and want to keep Ash in there with her who also grates on me

I do get too involved too engrossed, maybe I need to chillax”

agreed!
Sasparella
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Trevor_Moore1:
“Makes you wonder why they did it then.”

That's easy, they did it to get the Ashleigh fans voting like mad on Friday because they are so up in arms. Simple really, and it's been happening for years, admittedly it's way more out in the open this year, maybe they didn't make much last year and a business has to make money to survive.
Lozzo99
23-07-2014
Yes I often feel that a lot of Helen admirers are maybe 'not a full shilling' to put it mildly. But I feel I wouldn't be allowed to post that on here sometimes.
GibsonSG
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“I have just come on and found tbat Ashleigh is up.

But I am scared of posting how I feel as I would get in trouble.

Anybody else ever thought the same.

Mainly about BB but also in general”

I posted something about her being up as I am very pleased about it and it was pulled. So people can say what they like about Helen or the others with impunity but the first time the rest of us fight back it's like we poked the Ashleigh fawners in the eye with a pointed stick
sammyvan
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by JillyA:
“Yes - you can get slated for saying things about HMs other people like. I try to tone it down on occasions so as to not provoke people eg. by calling someone daft rather than thick, intimidating rather than a bully and so on.

We all have our own opinions but some posters do just trawl to say something anti against people who don't like their favourites.

I do not like Helen - she has intimidated other HMs, even some that have left have said this and said that the mood of the house is dictated on the day by what mood Helen is in. I have no problem that she chose to be a prostitute or even that she slept with a certain married footballer. I do however have a problem with her selling the story and also using this back story to get her place in the house.

I like Ashleigh. I think (whatever her age but in particular because of her age) she has been a credible and good housemate. She has taken flack inside the house, had the crowd boo her and when she has had the power (as part of girl power and this week) she has thought strategically. What is wrong with that? The public voted for her to have the power and in the main seem to agree with what she did. Of course, Helen fans won't like it - the same if Helen had the power and put my favourites up I wouldn't like it.

I have no worries about the twist. If anything BB's plan will backfire on them. The feeling of outrage will mean fans will do all they can to ensure Ashleigh does not go, by saving Ash it means the get Ash out vote will more likely switch to the get Steven out vote. Steven goes - one less so called cool kid in to throw nominations towards my favourites.

Mark has probably in a way come off the worst in this. He was playing quite a good game and now looks like a sneaky backstabber! Played it wrong this time. Forgot the public are watching!”

I enjoyed your post.
I do feel intimidated sometimes, especially when supporting a housemate that brings out the worst in others! I have no firm favorite this year, anyone of the Ashleigh, Chris, Christopher group would be a win for me. However, even mentioning the name 'Ashleigh'..... you need a hard hat!!
Completely understand she is not everyone's cup of tea, but there does seem to be a slightly 'over the top' reaction to the girl? Wish I could understand where it came from and why.
Let's hope it is Steven who goes this week !
Conehead
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“I posted something about her being up as I am very pleased about it and it was pulled. So people can say what they like about Helen or the others with impunity but the first time the rest of us fight back it's like we poked the Ashleigh fawners in the eye with a pointed stick”

Originally Posted by sammyvan:
“I enjoyed your post.
I do feel intimidated sometimes, especially when supporting a housemate that brings out the worst in others! I have no firm favorite this year, anyone of the Ashleigh, Chris, Christopher group would be a win for me. However, even mentioning the name 'Ashleigh'..... you need a hard hat!!
Completely understand she is not everyone's cup of tea, but there does seem to be a slightly 'over the top' reaction to the girl? Wish I could understand where it came from and why.
Let's hope it is Steven who goes this week !”

Let's not take this too seriously - I would like Ashleigh to get to the final along with Chris (and maybe Christopher, just because he's such a BB fan). If this provokes heaps of opprobrium, so be it. Likely as not I won't even be there to see it.
slappers r us
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Alerting doesn't get people banned, but it does draw the mods attention towards posts. Some people even trawl through certain posters comments, find something that may have been against T&C's and alert it just because they hold a grudge against that poster. That's pathetic and I have to question why someone would even bother doing that?

It doesn't help that the mods are faceless, almost secretive people who dislike any form of criticism themselves. I'm shocked that this thread is even still here.

This forum is heavy handed in its moderation, and you can get banned for saying things on DS that wouldn't even get a warning on other forums.”

I tend to think its a bit easier to say what you feel these days
gone are the days where saying utter tosh gets a ban for a week
or saying I would like to slap her gets a months ban

but I do hanker for the days of Beth Hart as a mod, she did seem to know the difference between a joke or a nasty comment, she also knew who were the wind up merchants and the FMs who put people down but didnt break T&Cs to do it

Over the years I have learned to switch off and ignore those who like to jump on every post that doesnt agree with their opinions

over time Ive realised that its just a game show for wannabees
Penny Crayon
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
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Over the years I have learned to switch off and ignore those who like to jump on every post that doesnt agree with their opinions

over time Ive realised that its just a game show for wannabees”

I'm getting there.It's taken me a bloody long time though with lots of bloody noses along the way.

I'm looking forward to the day when I don't feel the need to bite back at baiters and perhaps more importantly I've learnt to resist poking with a stick.
GibsonSG
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Alerting doesn't get people banned, but it does draw the mods attention towards posts. Some people even trawl through certain posters comments, find something that may have been against T&C's and alert it just because they hold a grudge against that poster. That's pathetic and I have to question why someone would even bother doing that?

It doesn't help that the mods are faceless, almost secretive people who dislike any form of criticism themselves. I'm shocked that this thread is even still here.

This forum is heavy handed in its moderation, and you can get banned for saying things on DS that wouldn't even get a warning on other forums.”

If enough people press the whinge button you get your comment| thread pulled or banned. That's how supporters of some housemates are silencing the any negative comments. I have had a few very innocent comments removed because they were against the hm being discussed. I am not convinced that some of these fms are not pming each other to get the job done. It's no good trying to talk to the MODS you just get the same old claptrap from them.
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