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Queen Helen: What happened all the hints etc about her pass
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jojoeno
23-07-2014
Nothing ......hints ,hints and more hints , Armageddon , nothing

She still has her golden pass

BB is a load of crap

BOYCOTT THIS CRAP
emptybox
23-07-2014
Erm.... not sure what you mean about hints about her pass?

If they took away her 'pass' to the final that would be the final nail in BB's credibility.
I dodn't think anybody should have been given a pass right from the first week. But if it's been given, it can't be taken away.

If they'd worded it as "Immunity from Eviction", then it could have been suspended or rescinded, but a pass has to be a pass.

The only way would be to give her the opportunity to give it to someone else, if she wanted.
SnowStorm86
23-07-2014
It's a bit late to start boycotting the show just because Helen has a pass to the final. 7 weeks late, in fact.
this_THAT
23-07-2014
free pass to the final means free pass to the final? it doesn't mean take it away half way... point in this thread =?
Scrovegni
23-07-2014
Which part of 'a pass to the final' don't people understand?
jazzydrury3
23-07-2014
Yeah but anybody but Helen, hate her.

If tgey rescinded the pass, how would tbat loose show the credibility worse things have done that
AOTB
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scrovegni:
“Which part of 'a pass to the final' don't people understand?”

All of it by the looks of things. It's really not a tough one is it.

I fully suspect that if their favourite (or in fact anyone but Helen had it) the 'outrage' and misunderstanding re the pass to the final would be minimal.
emptybox
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“Yeah but anybody but Helen, hate her.

If tgey rescinded the pass, how would tbat loose show the credibility worse things have done that”

You're right of course, that's why I said it would be the final nail.
The taking away of the public vote was the worst thing.
jazzydrury3
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“All of it by the looks of things.

It's really not a tough one is it.”

She wouldn't have stood a chance of entering if it hadn't been for her sleeping with Wayne.

Why should a housemates get a pass to a final, because of a situation involving a footballer
Pitman
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by emptybox:
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If they took away her 'pass' to the final that would be the final nail in BB's credibility.”


I think the final nail was hammered home weeks ago, they have no credibility whatsover anymore, now it's interesting to see how insane they can go, they are the Steven Goode of television at the moment
Scrovegni
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“She wouldn't have stood a chance of entering if it hadn't been for her sleeping with Wayne.

Why should a housemates get a pass to a final, because of a situation involving a footballer”

Love her or loathe her Helen has been the major character in this year's BB.

Who she slept with is immaterial.
SnowStorm86
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“She wouldn't have stood a chance of entering if it hadn't been for her sleeping with Wayne.

Why should a housemates get a pass to a final, because of a situation involving a footballer”

What evidence is this ridiculous statement based on?

How come all the others became housemates without sleeping with a footballer, if that is such a crucial criteria?
jazzydrury3
23-07-2014
Just saying how I feel.

Like I said earlier, I haven't said how I feel until now.

I will be saying how I feel, if posters don't like it, tgen ooh well
AOTB
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“She wouldn't have stood a chance of entering if it hadn't been for her sleeping with Wayne.

Why should a housemates get a pass to a final, because of a situation involving a footballer”

1) Do you think Ash, or Winston (or all of them) also shagged Wayne Rooney? If not how on earth did they 'stand a chance' to enter the house. She's as valid a HM ans anyone else and compared to virtually all of them has been far better value (for better or worse). She is a BB producers' dream, and her past is largely irrelevant.

2) She of course did not get a pass to a final because of a situation involving a footballer. (unless of course Pauline and the BB producers that came up with the idea are all footballers and you know something we don't).
jazzydrury3
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“1) Do you think Ash, or Winston (or all of them) also shagged Wayne Rooney? If not how on earth did they 'stand a chance' to enter the house. She's as valid a HM ans anyone else and compared to virtually all of them has been far better value (for better or worse). She is a BB producers' dream, and her past is largely irrelevant.

2) She of course did not get a pass to a final because of a situation involving a footballer. (unless of course Pauline and the BB producers that came up with the idea are all footballers and you know something we don't).”

I don't like Wayne for footballing reasons, and her being associated with him is my bare
JayneW
23-07-2014
They also told Ashleigh she was immune from eviction this week, they can do what they want. I wonder after all the footage hinting at her losing the pass whether they have waited for her reaction to Ashleigh being the power housemate.
Karen_Annanina
23-07-2014
It's also ridiculous to claim (as many do) that Helen has been especially favoured by the producers and edited to look good. How could that possibly be true? Since so many people have such extreme and obnoxious opinions on her, could it not be argued that BB has edited her to look BAD?
Anya D
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scrovegni:
“Love her or loathe her Helen has been the major character in this year's BB.

Who she slept with is immaterial.”

Who she slept with got her a place in the house.

Without the pass she was heading towards being a one-week wonder.

I think when BB said "the power is back... no one is safe", even Helen started to think her safety might finally be under threat, particularly as BB apparent ly didn't specifically say she was safe, as they have done previously.
Penny Crayon
23-07-2014
I would bet that her pass to the final will be rescinded the week before giving the public the opportunity to have finalists of their own choice.

It's a long show - people expect rights to be wronged and grievances to be sorted as they happen. Of course it makes everyone feel better if that happens but it doesn't do much to towards making an edgy and watchable show. If everything was sorted by week three what tensions and storylines would there be?

It has been hinted at that her pass may be taken from her - it's maintained the guessing and tension - it's getting people angry and agitated. It will 'eventually' generate big money in the stampede to get her out.

It may seem unjust but that's what BB is all about 'mass manipulation'.
sheils1
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jojoeno:
“Nothing ......hints ,hints and more hints , Armageddon , nothing

She still has her golden pass

BB is a load of crap

BOYCOTT THIS CRAP”

If you dont like it turn off, simples

Me im liking it so no boycott from me.
Sandie_Browne
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by emptybox:
“Erm.... not sure what you mean about hints about her pass?

If they took away her 'pass' to the final that would be the final nail in BB's credibility.
I dodn't think anybody should have been given a pass right from the first week. But if it's been given, it can't be taken away.

If they'd worded it as "Immunity from Eviction", then it could have been suspended or rescinded, but a pass has to be a pass.

The only way would be to give her the opportunity to give it to someone else, if she wanted.”

The same applies to 'THE KILLER NOM' but they took that away for a week so I don't see the difference 👎
Scrovegni
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Sandie_Browne:
“The same applies to 'THE KILLER NOM' but they took that away for a week so I don't see the difference 👎”

If Helen had been given 'immunity from being nominated' BB of course could remove it for a week like they did with Jale. However Helen was given a 'pass to the final', if this was removed for a week and she was evicted it would not be a 'pass to the final'.
AOTB
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“I don't like Wayne for footballing reasons, and her being associated with him is my bare”

Well at least you can be honest and admit you have a totally irrational dislike for her. In a way I can respect that.

This puts you head and shoulders about many of her detractors, even if your reason is one of the more 'out there' ones.
Sandie_Browne
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scrovegni:
“If Helen had been given 'immunity from being nominated' BB of course could remove it for a week like they did with Jale. However Helen was given a 'pass to the final', if this was removed for a week and she was evicted it would not be a 'pass to the final'.”

Fuzzy head this morning. Now I see, it's all in the wording, your right of course, thanks for explaining 💋
Anya D
23-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scrovegni:
“If Helen had been given 'immunity from being nominated' BB of course could remove it for a week like they did with Jale. However Helen was given a 'pass to the final', if this was removed for a week and she was evicted it would not be a 'pass to the final'.”

This is all very true, of course, but BB can chop and change whenever they want.
If they wanted to take that pass from her they would. They make the rules.

If they had no intention of ever removing the pass, I have to wonder why they bothered to warn her about her behaviour towards others.
What would have happened if she hadn't sufficiently modified her behaviour?
Sanction after sanction, but never eviction just because she had a pass? Anyone else would be out if they kept up that behaviour.

It's disingenuous of BB to act as though the pass, once given, cannot be rescinded, almost as if their hands are tied legally, when we all know they can just change their mds if the mood strikes or it would cause a stir that resulted in better ratings.
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