I know I am probably in the minority here, but I am sick of reading about poor vulnerable, innocent Ashleigh. In my opinion she is the biggest game player in the house, two faced, manipulating, spoiled brat. She knew from day one how she was going to play the game, act all pure and innocent in the beginning, played the victim, caused a lot of friction in the house without the other HMS realising it and then show her true colours. Would sooner have Helen any day at least you know what you see is what you get, not a nasty, spoiled little 18 year old brat. Rant over.
biggest game player - ashleigh
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I always admire the game players........game show after all......
all the HMs who say.......I am not playing a game.......or he/she is playing a game..........sound idiots to me.........not one of them would turn down £100,000 just to appear on the show......
Neither here nor there for Ashleigh........but for an 18 y.o. she is playing a good game, and standing up for herself.........which some spineless HMs do not........good for her.....
all the HMs who say.......I am not playing a game.......or he/she is playing a game..........sound idiots to me.........not one of them would turn down £100,000 just to appear on the show......Neither here nor there for Ashleigh........but for an 18 y.o. she is playing a good game, and standing up for herself.........which some spineless HMs do not........good for her.....
Helen's been the nastiest bloody bitch in this series. She's an absolute cow, and a complete hypocrite as well.
Originally Posted by Tinkle:
“I know I am probably in the minority here, but I am sick of reading about poor vulnerable, innocent Ashleigh. In my opinion she is the biggest game player in the house, two faced, manipulating, spoiled brat. She knew from day one how she was going to play the game, act all pure and innocent in the beginning, played the victim, caused a lot of friction in the house without the other HMS realising it and then show her true colours. Would sooner have Helen any day at least you know what you see is what you get, not a nasty, spoiled little 18 year old brat. Rant over.”
“I know I am probably in the minority here, but I am sick of reading about poor vulnerable, innocent Ashleigh. In my opinion she is the biggest game player in the house, two faced, manipulating, spoiled brat. She knew from day one how she was going to play the game, act all pure and innocent in the beginning, played the victim, caused a lot of friction in the house without the other HMS realising it and then show her true colours. Would sooner have Helen any day at least you know what you see is what you get, not a nasty, spoiled little 18 year old brat. Rant over.”
You do know it's a game don't you .?
Originally Posted by zolug:
“Oh go away you annoying little wasp.”
“Oh go away you annoying little wasp.”
Insulting fellow FMs simply because you don't agree with their opinions is nasty and uncalled for.
Originally Posted by Sunnydays:
“I always admire the game players........game show after all...... all the HMs who say.......I am not playing a game.......or he/she is playing a game..........sound idiots to me.........not one of them would turn down £100,000 just to appear on the show......
Neither here nor there for Ashleigh........but for an 18 y.o. she is playing a good game, and standing up for herself.........which some spineless HMs do not........good for her.....”
“I always admire the game players........game show after all......
all the HMs who say.......I am not playing a game.......or he/she is playing a game..........sound idiots to me.........not one of them would turn down £100,000 just to appear on the show......Neither here nor there for Ashleigh........but for an 18 y.o. she is playing a good game, and standing up for herself.........which some spineless HMs do not........good for her.....
”
In my opinion none of them is playing any game because there is no game to be played.
Games have clear rules and a purpose.
This BB has had no clear rules, no predictability and no apparent purpose.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Helen's been the nastiest bloody bitch in this series. She's an absolute cow, and a complete hypocrite as well.”
“Helen's been the nastiest bloody bitch in this series. She's an absolute cow, and a complete hypocrite as well.”
Helen isn't playing a game. She isn't intelligent enough to play a game.
Originally Posted by zolug:
“Oh go away you annoying little wasp.”
“Oh go away you annoying little wasp.”
Not everyone likes Ashleigh. Some of us can see right through her.
Not seen any of this poor vulnerable innocent Ashleigh going on
Two faced? I can't see how anyone can accuse her of being that. Whether you like her or not ... she's stayed loyal to the ones she is close to in the house, made no claims contrary to the housemates she doesn't particularly care for whilst crawling up their bums so no .... she isn't two faced!
When has she ever "acted" all pure and innocent? When has she ever claimed to be?
Caused friction how and with who? By distancing herself from the housemates who openly showed their disdain for her and not rising to their bait? Even after BB spent the best part of a week throwing her under a bus?
As for playing a game .... well bugger me! I thought it was a game They are all in it for themselves .... going about it to get as far as they can in their own little ways. Some a whole lot nastier and more blatant.
Finally as for Helen ... what you see is what you get. If that makes her a decent person then I worry for the state of society .... I really do.
Two faced? I can't see how anyone can accuse her of being that. Whether you like her or not ... she's stayed loyal to the ones she is close to in the house, made no claims contrary to the housemates she doesn't particularly care for whilst crawling up their bums so no .... she isn't two faced!
When has she ever "acted" all pure and innocent? When has she ever claimed to be?
Caused friction how and with who? By distancing herself from the housemates who openly showed their disdain for her and not rising to their bait? Even after BB spent the best part of a week throwing her under a bus?
As for playing a game .... well bugger me! I thought it was a game
They are all in it for themselves .... going about it to get as far as they can in their own little ways. Some a whole lot nastier and more blatant.Finally as for Helen ... what you see is what you get. If that makes her a decent person then I worry for the state of society .... I really do.
I don't have to like her, she entertains me and plays the game exactly like BB and all of us want.
Lets face it, they're not there for a holiday and to make friends, they are there to encourage us, in their own unique way, to part with our hard earned cash with voting.
If they all sit and get on with each other, im bored and flip the channel.
Lets face it, they're not there for a holiday and to make friends, they are there to encourage us, in their own unique way, to part with our hard earned cash with voting.
If they all sit and get on with each other, im bored and flip the channel.
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“Not seen any of this poor vulnerable innocent Ashleigh going on
Two faced? I can't see how anyone can accuse her of being that. Whether you like her or not ... she's stayed loyal to the ones she is close to in the house, made no claims contrary to the housemates she doesn't particularly care for whilst crawling up their bums so no .... she isn't two faced!
When has she ever "acted" all pure and innocent? When has she ever claimed to be?
Caused friction how and with who? By distancing herself from the housemates who openly showed their disdain for her and not rising to their bait? Even after BB spent the best part of a week throwing her under a bus?
As for playing a game .... well bugger me! I thought it was a game They are all in it for themselves .... going about it to get as far as they can in their own little ways. Some a whole lot nastier and more blatant.
Finally as for Helen ... what you see is what you get. If that makes her a decent person then I worry for the state of society .... I really do.”
“Not seen any of this poor vulnerable innocent Ashleigh going on
Two faced? I can't see how anyone can accuse her of being that. Whether you like her or not ... she's stayed loyal to the ones she is close to in the house, made no claims contrary to the housemates she doesn't particularly care for whilst crawling up their bums so no .... she isn't two faced!
When has she ever "acted" all pure and innocent? When has she ever claimed to be?
Caused friction how and with who? By distancing herself from the housemates who openly showed their disdain for her and not rising to their bait? Even after BB spent the best part of a week throwing her under a bus?
As for playing a game .... well bugger me! I thought it was a game
They are all in it for themselves .... going about it to get as far as they can in their own little ways. Some a whole lot nastier and more blatant.Finally as for Helen ... what you see is what you get. If that makes her a decent person then I worry for the state of society .... I really do.”
Well said!!! Agree with you entirely
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“Oh please these threads are ridiculous LOL”
“Oh please these threads are ridiculous LOL”
Any opposing view is ridiculous?
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“Helen isn't playing a game. She isn't intelligent enough to play a game.”
“Helen isn't playing a game. She isn't intelligent enough to play a game.”
Correct - and bitching when her pals are nominated , why does she think her groupies should be immune- none of the hm want to nominate but the fact is - it is a game , people are nominated and evicted so that the game can conclude and a winner is decided - it's not rocket science
Originally Posted by Sunnydays:
“I always admire the game players........game show after all...... all the HMs who say.......I am not playing a game.......or he/she is playing a game..........sound idiots to me.........not one of them would turn down £100,000 just to appear on the show......
Neither here nor there for Ashleigh........but for an 18 y.o. she is playing a good game, and standing up for herself.........which some spineless HMs do not........good for her.....”
“I always admire the game players........game show after all......
all the HMs who say.......I am not playing a game.......or he/she is playing a game..........sound idiots to me.........not one of them would turn down £100,000 just to appear on the show......Neither here nor there for Ashleigh........but for an 18 y.o. she is playing a good game, and standing up for herself.........which some spineless HMs do not........good for her.....
”
I absolutely ****in love her. In her own way she's totally playing Helen and Helens can't take it. Think about it. She over threw Helen over the ash nomination and doesn't give a shit about her knowing. Like this she can handle real power and has a sweet gameplan. And Helen at any points doesn't know she's doing this and it probably gustrates the "queen bee" that an 18 yr old can do this to her.
#teamAshleigh
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“Any opposing view is ridiculous?”
“Any opposing view is ridiculous?”
It's hard pushed to find any opposing views with any foundation or substance. If anyone who doesn't like Ashleigh can answer with seriousness my questions above then we may have a discussion. Quite honestly ..... this thread is just spouting more unfounded twaddle with no sensible or logical arguement. Just "she's playing a game, she acts this or that way, she's a nasty little brat" etc .... really wouldn't stand up in a court of law. At least show us the hard evidence to back up these claims. Opinions are fine if they are not based on emptiness
Originally Posted by HandyAndies:
“I don't have to like her, she entertains me and plays the game exactly like BB and all of us want.
Lets face it, they're not there for a holiday and to make friends, they are there to encourage us, in their own unique way, to part with our hard earned cash with voting.
If they all sit and get on with each other, im bored and flip the channel.”
“I don't have to like her, she entertains me and plays the game exactly like BB and all of us want.
Lets face it, they're not there for a holiday and to make friends, they are there to encourage us, in their own unique way, to part with our hard earned cash with voting.
If they all sit and get on with each other, im bored and flip the channel.”
Exactly and they all play the game if they didn't they would never nominate, if one stands out as a better player then they are to be admired IMO
Ashleigh is such an interesting housemate. I don't think she's fully the bubbly sweet innocent girl she claimed to be her in her VT and I don't think she's fully the manipulative ice maiden some make her out to be either. She has the ability to be both!Ashleigh is someone whose attitude towards you completely depends on how she thinks you deserve to be treated. Obviously like the majority of us Helen and her gang anger her on a very deep level and as she can give as good as she gets we saw the Ashleigh we got in girl power week etc. Compare that with how she treats and treated Christopher/Chris/Danielle/Toya etc.She adores them all and is really affectionate and loyal towards them. I don't think it would even cross her mind to throw any of them under the bus.
I don't think she is an inherent two faced game player like Mark, but when the occasion calls for it she can be a gameplayer in the best sense of the word.
I don't think she is an inherent two faced game player like Mark, but when the occasion calls for it she can be a gameplayer in the best sense of the word.
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“It's hard pushed to find any opposing views with any foundation or substance. If anyone who doesn't like Ashleigh can answer with seriousness my questions above then we may have a discussion. Quite honestly ..... this thread is just spouting more unfounded twaddle with no sensible or logical arguement. Just "she's playing a game, she acts this or that way, she's a nasty little brat" etc .... really wouldn't stand up in a court of law. At least show us the hard evidence to back up these claims. Opinions are fine if they are not based on emptiness”
“It's hard pushed to find any opposing views with any foundation or substance. If anyone who doesn't like Ashleigh can answer with seriousness my questions above then we may have a discussion. Quite honestly ..... this thread is just spouting more unfounded twaddle with no sensible or logical arguement. Just "she's playing a game, she acts this or that way, she's a nasty little brat" etc .... really wouldn't stand up in a court of law. At least show us the hard evidence to back up these claims. Opinions are fine if they are not based on emptiness”
I didn't realise that my personal opinion could land me in court of law having to give hard evidence to defend myself, at the end of the day I am perfectly entitled to say what I think. You really do need to chill out and remember this is big brother forum, I am not on trial and I have committed no crime.
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