We weren't told who was up when Marlon was evicted, we weren't even shown the nominations. We were promised face to face nominations but instead they got the HMs to nominate, decided they liked the results and cancelled the face to face nominations.

Now that really was dodgy but the forum favourites were safe so no harm no foul.

As many people have said you can't be selective about which dodgy twists you complain about. If you accept one then you accept them all.

I think everyone gets annoyed with the meddling and lies. Its just people get more annoyed when it affects a housemate which they want to stay. For example when Marlon got evicted not even a tumbleweed rolled, but if Ashleigh had gone then the internet itself would have imploded !

Also it's usually the same people demanding Helens pass to the final is taken away, but its a pass to the final so why would it be taken away ?? You can't moan about them saying one thing then doing another then ask them to change the rules in another scenario.

The series is dead in the water anyway.
The production on this show are beyond useless.

I want to complain about Harridan Helen's pass to the final! :-/

I agree that it's not quite fair how they've kept this from the viewers. The housemates is fine but theyre now playing with the viewers. However, i can accept it but if thisbis fair then it should also be fair for Helen to lose immunity and Mark to lose his 5k. It probably won't happen though.

Both are these posts are pretty much spot on.

I think it's a bit OTT to start actually complaining.........it's Big Brother - the original format of the show went out the window years ago. Now it's just unpredictable yet addictive (for me anyway) trash TV.

I think the problem is that the meddling would be more tolerated if it wasn't skewed in favour of Helen, someone who many don't like.

Although ultimately none of this will actually affect Ashleigh with regards to outside the house - she won't be evicted and her popularity is growing. However, it will make her time in the house harder as she, and a few others, have had their private conversations and supposedly positive power turned on them whereas much of Helen's more sordid details and bitchiness has been kept private.

I think these twists are ok as long as we are told from the beginning of the series what twist will happen when.

Well maybe, but would it have changed the way Ashleigh voted one bit? And if not, what's the problem? The cruel trick was outing her as the power housemate (Mark and Chris just went along with her, as let's face it, they were chosen to do) but I don't recall her being promised anonimity, and after the last time, she must have known that would happen.

I think an additional twist was unnecessary, and I can't shake the suspicion that it was only added once the eviction line-up was clear and it looked too much like a one-horse race which would see Steven ejected without much of a contest (i.e. phone vote money), so they engineered the twist with a strong certainty that Steven & Ash at least would push strongly for Ashleigh to be up instead.

Clearly a Steven/Ashleigh face-off has more lucrative money-making potential than Steven/Ash since all the furore about Ash's rude comments has pretty much died down ages ago.

It does seem as though Ashleigh has been 'betrayed' by Big Brother rather more than other HMs what with many of her Diary Room comments having been relayed to certain housemates (I'm strugglin to think of another HM who has been so frequently "stitched up" by BB this year).

I'm not that bothered about Helen's pass to the final - I don't believe it should ever have been granted (to anyone) but now it has the only way I would be happy to see it removed is if Helen was given the option to sacrifice it or assign it to someone else. I certainly wouldn't want another HM to get the opportunity to randomly revoke it as that too would be grossly unfair.

My problem with BB, and it is something that has become more apparent in recent years, is that it looks increasingly like they embark upon tasks and/or twists and then when it looks like they're not getting a result that suits the particular story narrative they've decided upon, they randomly mess with things to suit themselves.

On a side note, does anyone recall on opening night Emma making a great deal about how the Pod and the Pool would be locked off and HMs would have to earn their access? What the hell happened to that idea? HMs were almost immediately free to visit the pool and pod without needing to do anything. Seems BB couldn't even be bothered to see that idea through.

What a shower of shit this year has been! I'm on holiday for Final week and right now it's touch and go whether I can be bothered to PVR it for when I return.

I think it's just about money. Ashleigh in the line-up guarantees them more income.

I said this about Toya on another thread. I think the difference is, it is Ashleighs 'fans' that are complaining. As you pointed out, BB said no-one was safe.

On another note, BB also said there was no where to hide so why are we surprised that the Power Alliance couldn't hide behind anonymity?

The same thing happened to Toya

I don't remember everyone throwing their arms up in horror then.

I'm fairly certain Helens pass will be removed the week before the final .............I seem to remember lots of people begging for that. Why is it OK for others but not for Ashleigh?

Personally I think they have done this to ensure Ashleigh wins, rather than to get her out. Everyone knows that no-one will go when they're up against Steven. And BB also know who the voting was boosted when she was up against Jale. They will be counting on the heavy voting from her obsessed fans. Plus it all makes her look like the underdog and we all know that the British public love and underdog. I've said for weeks that Ashleigh will win, you can just tell that's what BB are aiming for now.

But the income from voting is miniscule compared to their guaranteed advertising & product placement income.

Also if voting income was a factor they would have opened the lines by this.

If they are going to explain their actions i would expect them to do it on BBBOTS only, not through some fan sites.

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Toya & Ashleigh both lied about walking so it's justice that they both ended up nominated!

Not even a good fan site these days.

I'm quite pleased about this twist I said when she got the power it would come back to bite her on the arse and she would be on the eviction list.

Why people want their favourite to have the power is beyond me it's been a curse to everyone who has had it so far.

When it's something I like- BB can change the rules at any time.

When it's something I don't like- it's outrageous! How dare they!

Yes that's true about the curse! I said on another thread last night that it's funny that everyone falls for it! BB has the power and ALWAYS will have, they will lead people to a false sense of security, public or housemate but they just keep demonstrating THEY have the power & that is the end of it! BB CANNOT be beaten!

Yeah sounds about right. Idiots.

With the only exceptions of Marlon and Tamera every evicted HM has been the PHM and they all went the next time there were up after having the power

BB should introduce a 'twist' that means when the Housemates win the shopping task, they just get pickled eggs and stale bread to eat all week.

Then they should introduce a twist to secretly surprise the public by making all of the public's paid votes irrelevant and just evicting whoever a random member of the production team chooses by 'eeny meeny miny mo'

Then they should introduce a twist where instead of giving the winner the money, it goes to a random formerly evicted housemate, again at the discretion of a member of the production team.

Then they should introduce a twist whereby some of the rules that BB has informed the public about are randomly reneged on and some of them are kept to, depending on what the production team feels like on the day. Oh, they already did that.

Will some kind person give me a nudge when this "scandal" makes the 10 O'clock news or the Guardian please?