Agreed

I thought I would never say this but I hope Ashleigh stays on Friday if we get anything close to normal noms next week! Her & Chris should be leading the way to make sure Mark is up next week!!!!

What a snivelling little sh*t he is. Sucking up to Helen and Steven and then, when Pav asked him straight, backtracking and lying through his teeth

Agreed

I wish, but are they aware that he through them under the bus, or as he says "took them to the cleaners!" WTF?

It was obviously a Big Mistake having him
Join the power alliance. What were they thinking. Ashleigh did say can we trust him. Well he should have been up that's how much they couldn't trust him. Should have picked Winston for exanple

Mark disgusted me tonight the snivelling backstabber. He lied about how the nominations went. He agreed, albeit reluctantly to nominate Ash, but he was grovelling to Helen saying that it was Chris and Ashleigh's decision. We've seen his true colours, he wasn't loyal to poor Christopher, who's desperate for a relationship. He was in the diary room saying Zoe was his favourite house mate and how much he loves Matthew his favourite.... Stop the fake crowing you mug...we know who you are now! I thought you were great a few weeks ago but now I can't wait to see you nominated and get booed!

What did he do wrong? BB revealed the alliance not him, contrary to yesterday's thread when people wrongly assumed Mark chose to spill the beans.

He defended himself just like Ashleigh and Chris did. They all used a bit of spin to avoid the wrath of the others. He explained why they all chose Ash and he put all of their points of view across.

Yes, his comment about the other two choosing Steven beforehand was arse-covering, and he's prone to amateur dramatics when he describes how he feels about anything but we got a few short minutes of their decision-making. He DID stick up for Ash before going to the loo for a nervous crap and I'm quite sure the conversation continued after.

The only part I didn't like was his refusal to be open to Pav. It was harsh. But Commandant Helen had ordered silence on that front and he was already in her bad books.

Firstly, he didn't say Ash's nomination was all their decision. He very clearly explained that it was between Christopher and Ash and they were all best mates with Christopher but only he was close to Ash. So it had to be Ash by default. He also said very clearly that they ALL decided Zoe and Pav should be spared.

Secondly, how do you know he lied about nominations? We saw 1 minute, tops, before he took his "nervous bowels" to the loo. You don't actually think that conversation wouldn't resume do you? And have gone on much longer?

Thirdly, he wasn't disloyal to Christopher because he didn't nominate him. Job done. And anyway, we might all love Christopher but we've not had a drunken snog with him that we regretted. We're not feeling hot/cold about Christopher as a potential b/f. Ive been in entanglements where you like them as a person but go cold romantically and feel irrationally irritated.

Well he wasn't exactly quiet about it so over the next day or so they must find out surely!

I did like Mark but was deeply disappointed to find out that he has no spine.

walked away from the computer and came back to see the atrocious spelling mistake. My bad. Couldn't edit. Too late. Soz.

Haha! No worries, I knew what you meant

Hopefully any one that a still likes Mark has seen what a snivelling cretin he really is tonight.

Thing is, he was ready to put Christopher up ahead of Winston or Zoe until Mattew told him not to. It was Ashleigh and Chris who fought to save Christopher. I understand if he doesn't want a relationship, but he has told Christopher that he is his 'bezzie mate' at the least, yet he teats him like shit. He NEVER sticks up for him when Helen bitches about him, and easily agreed not to tell him that the ex HM's said even though everyone else already knows. no two ways about it. He's a disloyal little prick.

I think Mark is a nice guy. He isn't deep and he isn't assertive. He's a social butterfly and his way of navigating life is to be nice and get along with people (possibly in a fairly superficial way). I believe that hell for someone of his character would be falling out with people or living with an atmosphere so he was in, what for him , is a nightmare scenario.

It seems a shame to describe someone who wants to get along with people, who will be economical with the truth rather than risk upsetting someone and who looks for the bridge rather than the jugular, as two faced.

They didn't even discuss it, I put BBOTS on and awaited them showing a couple of clips and asking the panels opinion. Instead they talked about crap.

Did you see him in Shipwrecked?

My opinion of him has completely changed after tonight's show.

Well said. I see him as a social butterfly too but one who will say his bit then move on quickly. Chris and Ashleigh also gave passionate defences that were slightly economical with the truth of what they'd been feeling but where's the criticism of them? They were fairly damning about the others just 2 days ago but tonight it was all "we didn't want to nominate you...you were the hardest choice" (said to Zoe, Pav and Ash). Ironically, Mark seemed to relay more truthful facts about the process than Chris did (when speaking to Steven).

All 3 of them were put in an awful position and were left to salvage their relationships AND not hurt anyone's feelings. I can't really see how any of them should have played it differently.

WOW---great spin. If you're not doing this for a living you should be.

I did. What's your point?

I will pop it on my CV. Thanks for the testimonial.

Maybe the shouts on Friday "Get Mark Out" should convince them.

Its the very thing he accuses Pav and Christopher of .
He's a snake IMO