Originally Posted by Boofie:
“What was their chat she was referring to
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“What was their chat she was referring to
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Puppet task.
I'm not sure if it made it onto the HL show.
Ashleigh kissing Ash'es arse all of a sudden, WTH , this BB never seeses to Amaze me
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I'm an Ashleigh/Christopher fan.
I don't actually mind Ash. There was just the one instance. where he threatened to destroy someone for arguing with Helen and it was the manner in which he said it before backtracking that i thought was a bit intimidating. That put me off him for a long time, however i actually have found the guy to be quite likeable for weeks now.
That being said i have no idea what he see's in Helen at all. He must like loud, agressive and foul mouthed women lol.
I don't actually mind Ash. There was just the one instance. where he threatened to destroy someone for arguing with Helen and it was the manner in which he said it before backtracking that i thought was a bit intimidating. That put me off him for a long time, however i actually have found the guy to be quite likeable for weeks now.
That being said i have no idea what he see's in Helen at all. He must like loud, agressive and foul mouthed women lol.
I've been saying for weeks that Ash was nowhere as bad as Ashleigh and many on here were making out. A bit of a plonker at times, but most of the time he seemed laid-back and easy enough to get on with. Ashleigh on the other hand seemed terribly black and white in her opinions, and instead of seeing the more rounded picture, fixated on the negatives. At least where the likes of Ash and Winston were concerned.
Well if you take her at face value now, it seems she's suddenly come round to seeing Ash as not being so bad after all. On Tuesday night's HLs both Chris and her were saying they had recently grown to like him. Maybe she's finally showing some signs of growing up (though that could be wishful thinking on my part). Maybe she could learn from this not to be so harsh, judgemental and condemnatory of people, and instead make more of an effort to get to know them and form a more balanced perspective.
However it does make you wonder where it leaves all the people who were praising her for hating Ash, saying she was quite right since he was absolutely horrid and no wonder she was so determined to get him out the house. Well it seems she now feels she was wrong about him.
It also makes you wonder who the heck is left to comprise Chris's 'nastiest bunch of housemates ever' (last Friday night's HLs), given that he now seems to think that Ash is alright. Is it just Helen and Steven? But can 2 people really comprise a 'bunch'?
Well if you take her at face value now, it seems she's suddenly come round to seeing Ash as not being so bad after all. On Tuesday night's HLs both Chris and her were saying they had recently grown to like him. Maybe she's finally showing some signs of growing up (though that could be wishful thinking on my part). Maybe she could learn from this not to be so harsh, judgemental and condemnatory of people, and instead make more of an effort to get to know them and form a more balanced perspective.
However it does make you wonder where it leaves all the people who were praising her for hating Ash, saying she was quite right since he was absolutely horrid and no wonder she was so determined to get him out the house. Well it seems she now feels she was wrong about him.
It also makes you wonder who the heck is left to comprise Chris's 'nastiest bunch of housemates ever' (last Friday night's HLs), given that he now seems to think that Ash is alright. Is it just Helen and Steven? But can 2 people really comprise a 'bunch'?
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Well I wouldn't have cared with the point scoring at Helen and Ash so much because they are all as bad as each other at that. But it's the way that Mark, Ashleigh and Chris threw both Zoe and Pav under a bus to save their own skins.
It was COWARDLY.
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“Well I wouldn't have cared with the point scoring at Helen and Ash so much because they are all as bad as each other at that. But it's the way that Mark, Ashleigh and Chris threw both Zoe and Pav under a bus to save their own skins.
It was COWARDLY.
”
Best Post Ever, summed up, its not the Helen Beliebers versus Ashleighs its just those 3 tryed to save their behinds from nominations next week, this will be evident next week, they wont be nominated
Originally Posted by nagel84:
“I've been saying for weeks that Ash was nowhere as bad as Ashleigh and many on here were making out. A bit of a plonker at times, but most of the time he seemed laid-back and easy enough to get on with. Ashleigh on the other hand seemed terribly black and white in her opinions, and instead of seeing the more rounded picture, fixated on the negatives. At least where the likes of Ash and Winston were concerned.
Well if you take her at face value now, it seems she's suddenly come round to seeing Ash as not being so bad after all. On Tuesday night's HLs both Chris and her were saying they had recently grown to like him. Maybe she's finally showing some signs of growing up (though that could be wishful thinking on my part). Maybe she could learn from this not to be so harsh, judgemental and condemnatory of people, and instead make more of an effort to get to know them and form a more balanced perspective.
However it does make you wonder where it leaves all the people who were praising her for hating Ash, saying she was quite right since he was absolutely horrid and no wonder she was so determined to get him out the house. Well it seems she now feels she was wrong about him.
It also makes you wonder who the heck is left to comprise Chris's 'nastiest bunch of housemates ever' (last Friday night's HLs), given that he now seems to think that Ash is alright. Is it just Helen and Steven? But can 2 people really comprise a 'bunch'?”
“I've been saying for weeks that Ash was nowhere as bad as Ashleigh and many on here were making out. A bit of a plonker at times, but most of the time he seemed laid-back and easy enough to get on with. Ashleigh on the other hand seemed terribly black and white in her opinions, and instead of seeing the more rounded picture, fixated on the negatives. At least where the likes of Ash and Winston were concerned.
Well if you take her at face value now, it seems she's suddenly come round to seeing Ash as not being so bad after all. On Tuesday night's HLs both Chris and her were saying they had recently grown to like him. Maybe she's finally showing some signs of growing up (though that could be wishful thinking on my part). Maybe she could learn from this not to be so harsh, judgemental and condemnatory of people, and instead make more of an effort to get to know them and form a more balanced perspective.
However it does make you wonder where it leaves all the people who were praising her for hating Ash, saying she was quite right since he was absolutely horrid and no wonder she was so determined to get him out the house. Well it seems she now feels she was wrong about him.
It also makes you wonder who the heck is left to comprise Chris's 'nastiest bunch of housemates ever' (last Friday night's HLs), given that he now seems to think that Ash is alright. Is it just Helen and Steven? But can 2 people really comprise a 'bunch'?
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Sound appraisal
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“Like Jale and Helen then right ? only when Jale did it she was labelled an ass licker.”
“Like Jale and Helen then right ? only when Jale did it she was labelled an ass licker.”
fair point
You could see tonight that when she was talking to Ash, she mentioned how they had a meaningful conversation, they both looked teary eyed after it was mentioned, so it clearly meant a lot to both of them.... We don't get to see everything that goes on, Ashleigh and Ash I think have been getting on for a while now, they seem to have got on well since the Task with the raft where they were on the same team... The reason they don't speak as much will be due to him always being around Helen, or maybe BB just doesn't want us to see them talking to suit the storyline of the show.
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“They're so terrified of Helen. Mark desperately throwing anyone he can lay his hands on under the bus to save himself. Ashli and Chris bowing and scraping to her bemused bf. Pav being dismissed so she can explain how it's going to be. And it all culminating with a weeping Chris in the diary room eulogizing Helen for not going nuclear.”
“They're so terrified of Helen. Mark desperately throwing anyone he can lay his hands on under the bus to save himself. Ashli and Chris bowing and scraping to her bemused bf. Pav being dismissed so she can explain how it's going to be. And it all culminating with a weeping Chris in the diary room eulogizing Helen for not going nuclear.”
Well....when you put it that way
Originally Posted by Boofie:
“What was their chat she was referring to”
“What was their chat she was referring to
”
We never get to see any of this........it all ends up on BB's cutting room floor......
Originally Posted by BIGM0MMA:
“Ashleigh wasn't crying, her eyes were devoid of tears.”
“Ashleigh wasn't crying, her eyes were devoid of tears.”
They were clearly visible to most people, even those who thought she was acting.
This forum is so funny. When Ashleigh isn't 'pals' with the cool gang she gets knocked and told to mix, then when she mixes she is still knocked and called 2 faced whatever. Pathetic.
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“It's not fixed, BB can change the rules at any time.
How ironic that you say it's fixed but will still waste your money voting in such a bad series..”
“It's not fixed, BB can change the rules at any time.
How ironic that you say it's fixed but will still waste your money voting in such a bad series..”
Now your lying I didn't say its fixed, oh and I don't vote
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Speaks volumes to me.”
“Speaks volumes to me.”
But you seem to be quite hard of hearing
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“This forum is so funny. When Ashleigh isn't 'pals' with the cool gang she gets knocked and told to mix, then when she mixes she is still knocked and called 2 faced whatever. Pathetic.”
“This forum is so funny. When Ashleigh isn't 'pals' with the cool gang she gets knocked and told to mix, then when she mixes she is still knocked and called 2 faced whatever. Pathetic.”
There's desperation in the anti-Ashleighs at the moment, just sit back and enjoy.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“This forum is so funny. When Ashleigh isn't 'pals' with the cool gang she gets knocked and told to mix, then when she mixes she is still knocked and called 2 faced whatever. Pathetic.”
“This forum is so funny. When Ashleigh isn't 'pals' with the cool gang she gets knocked and told to mix, then when she mixes she is still knocked and called 2 faced whatever. Pathetic.”
Where's the contradiction?
It's Ashleigh fans that have constantly posted that she doesn't mix because the other HM are so bad.
Some of us have been saying for ages that she just prefers the bitching in corners, first Toya, then Danielle, now Chris.
But then that doesn't suit the victim label that has been wrongly placed on her. To justify Ashleigh's behavior, the other HM must be demonised.
I think it's far more upsetting for Ashleigh fans to find out that apparently she now likes Ash, a lot of the rest of us have liked him for some time.
Helen would have made a great military leader; in fact, she should maybe consider it as a career option.
She demands subservience and, in BB at least, she gets it. Why, do you think?
I think she set her stall out very early on by demonstrating to everyone in the house how she would behave with those who displeased her. She always did this, in the early days and weeks, with a maximum audience. She would then fortify the social delineations by making sure that those who pleased her got repeated instalments of propoganda against those who had displeased her. She would brook no disagreement and made this very clear - also from early on.
The housemates en masse had two choices, acquiesce or suffer social exclusion and, potentially, her wrath. The wrath could be reined in after a time because the social structure was solid. Also, the warnings from BB meant that she had to ease up. But the scaffolding was firmly in place.
Helen is very socially adept in a very negative way. There are many people like her in this world and I don't wish her ill - I just pity those who become enmeshed in her web.
She demands subservience and, in BB at least, she gets it. Why, do you think?
I think she set her stall out very early on by demonstrating to everyone in the house how she would behave with those who displeased her. She always did this, in the early days and weeks, with a maximum audience. She would then fortify the social delineations by making sure that those who pleased her got repeated instalments of propoganda against those who had displeased her. She would brook no disagreement and made this very clear - also from early on.
The housemates en masse had two choices, acquiesce or suffer social exclusion and, potentially, her wrath. The wrath could be reined in after a time because the social structure was solid. Also, the warnings from BB meant that she had to ease up. But the scaffolding was firmly in place.
Helen is very socially adept in a very negative way. There are many people like her in this world and I don't wish her ill - I just pity those who become enmeshed in her web.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“This forum is so funny. When Ashleigh isn't 'pals' with the cool gang she gets knocked and told to mix, then when she mixes she is still knocked and called 2 faced whatever. Pathetic.”
“This forum is so funny. When Ashleigh isn't 'pals' with the cool gang she gets knocked and told to mix, then when she mixes she is still knocked and called 2 faced whatever. Pathetic.”
It's the same 5/6 people all day long. The funniest part of it, for me, is when they call her dull and boring................. yet spend most of their time on here posting about her.......
Originally Posted by Speak-Softly:
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I think it's far more upsetting for Ashleigh fans to find out that apparently she now likes Ash, a lot of the rest of us have liked him for some time.”
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I think it's far more upsetting for Ashleigh fans to find out that apparently she now likes Ash, a lot of the rest of us have liked him for some time.”
Really? I cant imagine many if any Ashleigh fans getting upset, but thanks for your concern and I'm sure if there are any they'll get over it fairly quickly.
I cant help but think your 'a lot' is really just a few.
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“It's the same 5/6 people all day long. The funniest part of it, for me, is when they call her dull and boring................. yet spend most of their time on here posting about her.......”
“It's the same 5/6 people all day long. The funniest part of it, for me, is when they call her dull and boring................. yet spend most of their time on here posting about her.......
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I know, it is bizarre, and they just can't see it.
Oh well, perhaps it's kinder to pity than scorn them
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Helen would have made a great military leader; in fact, she should maybe consider it as a career option.
She demands subservience and, in BB at least, she gets it. Why, do you think?
I think she set her stall out very early on by demonstrating to everyone in the house how she would behave with those who displeased her. She always did this, in the early days and weeks, with a maximum audience. She would then fortify the social delineations by making sure that those who pleased her got repeated instalments of propoganda against those who had displeased her. She would brook no disagreement and made this very clear - also from early on.
The housemates en masse had two choices, acquiesce or suffer social exclusion and, potentially, her wrath. The wrath could be reined in after a time because the social structure was solid. Also, the warnings from BB meant that she had to ease up. But the scaffolding was firmly in place.
Helen is very socially adept in a very negative way. There are many people like her in this world and I don't wish her ill - I just pity those who become enmeshed in her web.”
“Helen would have made a great military leader; in fact, she should maybe consider it as a career option.
She demands subservience and, in BB at least, she gets it. Why, do you think?
I think she set her stall out very early on by demonstrating to everyone in the house how she would behave with those who displeased her. She always did this, in the early days and weeks, with a maximum audience. She would then fortify the social delineations by making sure that those who pleased her got repeated instalments of propoganda against those who had displeased her. She would brook no disagreement and made this very clear - also from early on.
The housemates en masse had two choices, acquiesce or suffer social exclusion and, potentially, her wrath. The wrath could be reined in after a time because the social structure was solid. Also, the warnings from BB meant that she had to ease up. But the scaffolding was firmly in place.
Helen is very socially adept in a very negative way. There are many people like her in this world and I don't wish her ill - I just pity those who become enmeshed in her web.”
Great post. Spot on observations.
i've changed my mind about people in my life, haven't we all? what's the big deal if ashleigh feels differently about ash now? you don't get along with someone once and then you have to dislike them forever or else you're an arse-licker?
Originally Posted by radiofree:
“i've changed my mind about people in my life, haven't we all? what's the big deal if ashleigh feels differently about ash now? you don't get along with someone once and then you have to dislike them forever or else you're an arse-licker?”
“i've changed my mind about people in my life, haven't we all? what's the big deal if ashleigh feels differently about ash now? you don't get along with someone once and then you have to dislike them forever or else you're an arse-licker?”
Slowly but indeed surely, as is being proven with one current thread, the mask is slipping from Ashleighs fans...
They only like or in this case liked Ashleigh because she was against Helen.
you are the guys build up ashleigh to be this villan that hates as/helen etc, but if she does something nice to them you then hate her
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Helen would have made a great military leader; in fact, she should maybe consider it as a career option.
”
“Helen would have made a great military leader; in fact, she should maybe consider it as a career option.
”
You could be right, remember the Nursery Rhyme the Grand Old Duke of York she could be following in his footsteps.......... he had 5000 men!
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