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Old 24-07-2014, 11:49
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Helen has exhausted any interest her place in the house ever had for me. She used to shout a lot and now that she doesn't, she's got nothing left worth paying any attention to. I'm more interested in other characters for who they are themselves than how they interact with H.

I've enjoyed Ashleigh more this week. It's a shame that BB ruined her game though when they dumped on her Evil Plan, she could have been so much more entertaining if allowed to take full advantage of her conniving wee girl talents throughout the whole series, instead of being slapped by the production team the first time she flexed them.
Can you really not see that the producers have kept her in the house by that exposure?

The GBP would have voted her out had she not had the plan exposed, and so went from manipulator to manipulated.

The whole battery task "bitching reveal" was to save Ashleigh. She went from being booed and a dead cert to be evicted to a latter day sainted martyr.

The shame was they lost a much better HM in Jale whereas Ashleigh is merely a HM who is a vessel for the viewers projection.

And what conniving wee girl talents?
She sits and bitches in the corner one on one.
Walk into any playground in the country and you will find the same behavior.
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Old 24-07-2014, 11:53
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Can you really not see that the producers have kept her in the house by that exposure?

The GBP would have voted her out had she not had the plan exposed, and so went from manipulator to manipulated.

The whole battery task "bitching reveal" was to save Ashleigh. She went from being booed and a dead cert to be evicted to a latter day sainted martyr.

The shame was they lost a much better HM in Jale whereas Ashleigh is merely a HM who is a vessel for the viewers projection.

And what conniving wee girl talents?
She sits and bitches in the corner one on one.
Walk into any playground in the country and you will find the same behavior.
In her defence, I think she has just left school
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Old 24-07-2014, 11:55
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Lets be honest we do not know that it was the housemates that changed their minds, it could have been BB changing their minds for them.

As for Helen well I don't think the pass has helped her at all, had she never had the pass she would have had to adapt her behaviour somewhat quicker than she did ( the warnings achieved that ). Having the pass has also ramped up the hate towards her to a disgraceful level as people cannot get at her through a vote.She would not imo have gone before Pauline or Toya and she would have had time to adapt to the crowd reaction and adjust just like the others have when being chanted or booed, so I don't see her pass as advantageous and I do think that Ashleigh was saved by the producers.
The only reason Helish isn't ranting and raving like a demented banshee on crack is because she has them all where she wants them, the girly-boy's her faithful bum boys loyal too the last, death preferable to her wrath. The bitch & girly-boys crew have enough votes to get shot of whomsoever is on Helish's death list.
Ash even has to pretend too fancy her so he can ride too the final on her pass.
They all know the dictator is there to stay come hell or high water, so they have to get there heads down and get on with it.
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Old 24-07-2014, 11:55
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Can you really not see that the producers have kept her in the house by that exposure?
Surely they could have just not involved the twist then she wouldn't of been up at all.

Duhhh
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:07
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Can you really not see that the producers have kept her in the house by that exposure?

The GBP would have voted her out had she not had the plan exposed, and so went from manipulator to manipulated.

The whole battery task "bitching reveal" was to save Ashleigh. She went from being booed and a dead cert to be evicted to a latter day sainted martyr.

The shame was they lost a much better HM in Jale whereas Ashleigh is merely a HM who is a vessel for the viewers projection.

And what conniving wee girl talents?
She sits and bitches in the corner one on one.
Walk into any playground in the country and you will find the same behavior.
This incident is the one that gets most Ashleigh supporter's knickers in a twist. How they don't realise that it was done deliberately by the producers to artificially create a good guys\bad guys scenario and save Ashleigh from eviction as a result.

On a couple of occasions Ashleigh has been dangerously close to becoming friends with Helen (and she would make a much more natural ally to Helen than Kim or Jale ever would) but BB has always intervenes to give them a not so subtle nudge apart.

I think the producers were hoping Ashleigh would naturally oppose Helen and become a hero character in the series narrative but they realised early on that they have to keep prodding Ashleigh or more often Helen to provoke conflict between the two.

With 3 weeks to go the producers have got their work cut out to keep Ashleigh and Helen in their respective good guy\bad guy roles and keeping Ashleigh in the spotlight.
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:12
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Weren't you very offended with me and pull me up on another thread when I mentioned "your irrational dislike (almost hatred) of Ashleigh" . And yet here you are accusing other people of the same thing in relation to Helen.
It's no use, JE. It's what's called a one track mind.
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:16
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This incident is the one that gets most Ashleigh supporter's knickers in a twist. How they don't realise that it was done deliberately by the producers to artificially create a good guys\bad guys scenario and save Ashleigh from eviction as a result.

On a couple of occasions Ashleigh has been dangerously close to becoming friends with Helen (and she would make a much more natural ally to Helen than Kim or Jale ever would) but BB has always intervenes to give them a not so subtle nudge apart.

I think the producers were hoping Ashleigh would naturally oppose Helen and become a hero character in the series narrative but they realised early on that they have to keep prodding Ashleigh or more often Helen to provoke conflict between the two.

With 3 weeks to go the producers have got their work cut out to keep Ashleigh and Helen in their respective good guy\bad guy roles and keeping Ashleigh in the spotlight.
Obviously not as clever and perceptive as you are
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:17
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Obviously not as clever and perceptive as you are
I do have my moments.
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:37
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I do have my moments.
I don't doubt it but I don't think this is one of them
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:38
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No wonder you get called a Troll. You've been told umpteen times about why people like Ashleigh yet you insist with your boring repetitive nonsense about it all being about not liking Helen. Are you honestly watching BB or do you just record it to fast forward to the Ashleigh bits? You never talk about anything else
Yup, deleted all my posts and reported me because she couldnt hack it when i shredded his/her reasons to bits and made the mistake of mocking him/her a bit for it. (It was a joke - but i have now read the rules and apologised for breaking them - i need to realise that some peple are more serious/sensitive than me)

I wouldn't even rise to it. People should just ignore it's basically like talking to someone who's wearing ear protection. Posioned by hatred of someone on a gameshow unable to accept that we can make our own decisons for ourself and thinking they know better. Pathetic really.

The proof will be in the pudding at the end of the show is all i'm saying. The most deserved and liked housemate will obviously win for reasons that the voters decide.
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:41
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Maybe I shouldn't have voted Jale 6 times

In the last two weeks she's just changed completely
I've been making excuses for her but sorry it's too much now

Becoming all friendly with Helen
Saying she's pleased Danielle left
And now ****ing crying to ASH about how much she wants him to stay? WTF

To be the 'hero' you at least have to stick to targeting the villain
Really disappointed TBH

Looks like I'm back to week 2 with no favourites
She is just trying to civil with them if she acts all negative and bitchy towards Helen and her group it will do her no favours and probably get her evicted . And it looks like it's working well for her because she is now the bookies favourite to win .
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:42
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Yup, deleted all my posts and reported me because she couldnt hack it when i shredded his/her reasons to bits and made the mistake of mocking him/her a bit for it. (It was a joke)

I wouldn't even rise to it. People should just ignore it's basically like talking to someone who's wearing ear protection. Posioned by hatred of someone on a gameshow unable to accept that we can make our own decisons for ourself and thinking they know better. Pathetic really.

The proof will be in the pudding at the end of the show is all i'm saying. The most deserved and liked housemate will obviously win for reasons that the voters decide.
Wow that's pitiful really.
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:45
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I think Asleighs an even better alround housemate since Danille left. But didn't you see how pleased she was to see Danille on the screen in the diary room. She wasn't nasty about Danille after she left as such. She mad that toast to ger too. As for Ash they had some chat we didn't see so we can't really judge that one. They seemed genuine withother now.
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:49
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Wow that's pitiful really.
Yes, the best course of action is just to ignore it would say. I should have followed my initial instinct lol.
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:51
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She is just trying to civil with the if she acts all negative and bitchy towards Helen and her group it will do her no favours and probably get her evicted . And it looks like it's working well for her because she is now the bookies favourite to win .
I thought this too, with them all apologising to each other and reassuring the nominees (excpet Pav poor bloke) that it was such a horrible decision to make, Ashleigh did need to gush a bit to Ash too. Though TBH as he is now saved he should have been reassuring her that there were no hard feelings etc, but no.....

Anyhow Ash would have looked petty using the moment to say "Actually Ash you are a slimeball and still at the top of my most disliked list. I wouldn't have made you part of the alliance for all the tea in China."
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:51
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Yes, the best course of action is just to ignore it would say. I should have followed my initial instinct lol.
I have tended to ignore it, it's just not worth it. If you don't reply, they end up talking to themselves
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Old 24-07-2014, 12:52
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Yup, deleted all my posts and reported me because she couldnt hack it when i shredded his/her reasons to bits and made the mistake of mocking him/her a bit for it. (It was a joke - but i have now read the rules and apologised for breaking them - i need to realise that some peple are more serious/sensitive than me)

I wouldn't even rise to it. People should just ignore it's basically like talking to someone who's wearing ear protection. Posioned by hatred of someone on a gameshow unable to accept that we can make our own decisons for ourself and thinking they know better. Pathetic really.

The proof will be in the pudding at the end of the show is all i'm saying. The most deserved and liked housemate will obviously win for reasons that the voters decide.
How sad.

At least you know you made an impression
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:07
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I'm really liking Ashleigh since fake Danielle got evicted. She's really come out of her shell now. I think awful Danielle was holding her back. Every time she's on BOTS she is so bitter and miserable. Imagine being surrounded by that 24/7.
Don't faint but i actually agree with you for once

with them together is was a bit sitting alone being miserable & bitching.
i always knew danielle going would be good for her.
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:09
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The only reason Helish isn't ranting and raving like a demented banshee on crack is because she has them all where she wants them, the girly-boy's her faithful bum boys loyal too the last, death preferable to her wrath. The bitch & girly-boys crew have enough votes to get shot of whomsoever is on Helish's death list.
Ash even has to pretend too fancy her so he can ride too the final on her pass.
They all know the dictator is there to stay come hell or high water, so they have to get there heads down and get on with it.
Original, now where have I seen this posted hundreds of times?

"The large/cool/mean group targeting of those on the outside, we must all vote to stop them succeeding. All hands to the deck ect. ect."

Oh yes, that's right most BB's since they started.
And it goes on being said , as it is in this series, regardless of the people leaving being part of the group we must all oppose.

So Marlon, Jale, Pauline, Toya, Tamara were on Helen's death list were they?
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:12
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What are you talking about, she's just trying to get on with them, the same with Chris.

To win this game, you have to play the game Ashleigh is playing a great game, give her credit if you really were a fan of hers.
Funny, people have been doing that all along and they were called ass licker's. She didn't want Ash to find out she nominated him, that is where the tears came from.
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:15
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There is little doubt that Ashleigh is getting on well with Ash now but he was the 2nd choice to be nominated. Ashleigh and co., can dress it up however they want but the truth is they weren't too bothered nominating him hence why I found the faux sadness a little grating last night.

No-one is perfect though and they reacted like that. Still like them and won't let one or two annoying instances tarnish my overall views on them but it was all a little pathetic.
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:17
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Funny, people have been doing that all along and they were called ass licker's. She didn't want Ash to find out she nominated him, that is where the tears came from.
Jeez I'm really astounded by the number of mind readers on this forum
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:19
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There is little doubt that Ashleigh is getting on well with Ash now but he was the 2nd choice to be nominated. Ashleigh and co., can dress it up however they want but the truth is they weren't too bothered nominating him hence why I found the faux sadness a little grating last night.

No-one is perfect though and they reacted like that. Still like them and won't let one or two annoying instances tarnish my overall views on them but it was all a little pathetic.
To be fair to them though they did nominate Ash before they spoke to the bitter ex housemates. They had no intention of nominating Zoe until Danielle and Matthew stuck their oars in which might be why they were so keen to save Ash at the switch. Maybe if they had spoken to them first Ash wouldn't have been second to be nominated. I'm not making excuses by the way as I don't think any are required. Just a thought.
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:19
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Funny, people have been doing that all along and they were called ass licker's. She didn't want Ash to find out she nominated him, that is where the tears came from.
Not at all, some actually MADE friends with them, Ashleigh is playing the game and being civil to them.
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Old 24-07-2014, 13:20
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Funny, people have been doing that all along and they were called ass licker's. She didn't want Ash to find out she nominated him, that is where the tears came from.
I think the tears were more from the place of them being gleeful and how much they were enjoying being the "power alliance" and realising that it was ended.

Mark different, a wormtail who is only thinking of survival.

Chris and Ashleigh, suckerpunched.

"We are on the same page, in my life I haven't met anybody so in tune with what I think, none of these people are worth the time of day ect."

Smug, self congratulating BS.
Ah well, all "good" things must come to an end.
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