There are some who do i've seen. But a question for you have you thought about Helen's free pass at all ? Yes she didn't ask for it. But the fact is it's gave her an easy ride not being up for nomination never facing eviction. A much less stressful ride. Personally what ever kind of person had the pass i'd think they shouldn't win for these reasons.

I'm pretty sure there are only about half-a-dozen people on DS who are not acutely, almost desperately aware of Helen's free pass. All I can say is that I'm pretty sure she has absolutely NO hopes or expectations of winning, she knows people think she's a bitch, and if she could give her pass to Ash, she would.

I hope she wins and yes I have thought about her free pass.

i think she would of been out ages ago indeed but she has made this series enjoyable even thought its been really bad. may aswell just let her win it now

Would people be saying this if Ashleigh had been given the free pass?

I do sort of see what you are saying though as does Helen (I believe) - she sees it as a bit of a poisoned chalice.

I don't think she'll win regardless of the golden ticket - I do think it bought her time as she may have been out earlier. For that reason I'm glad she got the free pass - it would have been a dull house without her IMO. I like a bit of tension. To begin with the endless arguments were getting on my nerves - now they have lessened I quite like the edginess of the house.

if anyone needed the free pass its helen so it went to the perfect person if any other hm and it would of been a waste( maybe steven would of needed it)

Nobody deserved a pass to the final, least of all the nastiest housemate this year, possibly one of the worst ever.

I don't think it would have been a dull house if she wasn't there, i think other characters would have emerged and it could have been a great bb it's a shame Helen has ruined it.

I would for the reasons i'm saying think of how much less stress shes had each week knowing she can't be nommed or evicted. Friday must be way less stressful too. Like i said for me what ever kind of person had a pass like that i'd say they don't deserve to win the whole thing. I know not many are saying they'd like her to win but thought i'd pose the question though.

Helen hasnt ruined this years BB

BB its self has ruined it with all the twists and outside information

because of this the house has not found any peace (well maybe a couple of days just before the newbies stepped in)

Helen isn't boring enough to win. Which housemate is an anodyne as Sam Evans?

She has had an easy ride and has come out looking better than when she started because she is relaxed and they are all stressed and paranoid. Whole thing has been a stupid twist and has helped to make the show as woeful as it is.

I agree .I thought at some point in the game she would be brought down to the other housemates level, but No she still seems to be the one in charge and nobody will confront her which would surely get her riled and risk her place as a result. I was fuming
last night when she was telling Chris and Ashleigh what they should reveal about the power decisions, and disappointed they did not tell her where to go.

IMO the final pass was a wrong decision, that aside I don't think it would be a factor in people's minds in deciding if Helen should win. Forget the extra help she seems to get and ammunition given to her by the production team and how they (as seen) set up her rivals. Those without the memory of a sieve will know her for her personality. She may have calmed down due to her warnings but like a dangerous dog that has been muzzled it will still bite when the muzzle is removed.

... you need your head testing.

Without the pass Helen would have gone weeks ago. I think it has been a positive for Helen in a way. Although she isn't a favourite and certainly not my winner, she has become less offensive and no doubt some may even like her as time has passed. So as much as it has become a weight around her neck in the house it has been her saving grace publicly. She shouldn't win, she won't win. I doubt any housemate with the golden ticket would. It is a double-edged sword.

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You what you need to read my OP properly by the sounds of it.

I've read your reasoning OP, and unfortunately, I don't see this as a viable proposition so for that reason.

Not a viable reason for what ? Helen not being your winner ?

Dunno, just wanted to post Bannatyne saying 'I'm ooot' if I'm honest.

I think what loddellbosh meant was....

"If you think Helen should win......you need your head testing"

which is probably similar to what my reply would've been :--)

Well yeah but he/she thought i was saying that i wan't her to win i think. Thats obviously not what i said lol

Come and joint the dark side JP. It's more fun over here.

You gonna try controlling me ? If so i'll pass lol