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Christopher's got the hump with Mark (video)
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bein'onest
25-07-2014
Could this be Christopher's defining moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYK...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw
zelda fan
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by bein'onest:
“Could this be Christopher's defining moment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYK...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw”

I hope so as i really want him to win and he has achieved his popularity without ever being the power housemate.
cjandrews
25-07-2014
Well done Christopher. You deserve so much better than Mark.

Everyone tweet these guys to start a 'get Mark out' chant as they're going to be in the eviction crowd:

@debbieannw
@Ali201176
@JessJ1s
@RyanJamieOwen
@lilVix

It would be epic and proper shake the House up.
edna_ming
25-07-2014
I can't access the video, would someone be kind enough to tell me what's in it please?
zelda fan
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by edna_ming:
“I can't access the video, would someone be kind enough to tell me what's in it please?”

Basically Christopher tries to tell Mark that he is frustrated that he gets treated like a child in the house to which Mark tells him it's basically "for his own good" and that" you will thank me for it". Mark also says that Christopher is unable to compete in a row with Helen and Christopher responded with "being good at arguing just means you have had plenty of practice". It all ends with Christopher telling Mark to not underestimate him.

Hopefully i have explained that okay.
zofo
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by edna_ming:
“I can't access the video, would someone be kind enough to tell me what's in it please?”

Mark being patronising to Christopher and Christopher saying to not treat him like a child. Basically saying not to underestimate him.
moleymo
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by edna_ming:
“I can't access the video, would someone be kind enough to tell me what's in it please?”

Christopher is telling mark that by withholding information from him he feels like a child (I'm guessing it's about the new housemates that Helen told mark not to discuss with Christopher) he said that although he acts childish sometimes he is intelligent and he finds it patronising that people are withholding information from him
Mark tells him he's trying to protect him because he can't handle himself in an argument and that he felt awful when Helen was having a go at him before because he can't speak up for himself ( I remember mark actually laughing along)
Christopher said that he's not good at arguments because he doesn't argue it's people who are used to arguments that are good at arguing but he felt he held his own in that confrontation with Helen and that Helen was acting like a cow
He told mark that he has lived alone for 5 years that he has no idea about what he is capable of and that he shouldn't underestimate him
Verence
25-07-2014
1.11am: Christopher is annoyed about not being told what old housemates said about him in the Diary Room. Mark is consoling him.

Mark probably throwing Chris and Ashleigh under the bus again
zelda fan
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Verence:
“1.11am: Christopher is annoyed about not being told what old housemates said about him in the Diary Room. Mark is consoling him.”

Ugh why doesn't Mark just say the nice things about Christopher the ex housemates said?
He infuriates me so much.
bein'onest
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Ugh why doesn't Mark just say the nice things about Christopher the ex housemates said?
He infuriates me so much.”

Because Helen has told him not to tell Christopher anything. And Mark always does what Helen says. At least his true colours have been shown in the last few days. Christopher, meanwhile, is getting more confident, less willing to take cr@p from the likes of Mark and more popular with the public. Good for him
zofo
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Ugh why doesn't Mark just say the nice things about Christopher the ex housemates said?
He infuriates me so much.”

Mark probably didn't even hear what they said as he was so starstruck by Matthew again
Alrightmate
25-07-2014
What's the point of Christopher even bothering to speak to Mark?
Mark just demonstrated there that he wasn't listening to a word he was saying and how thick he must be.
Twice Christopher said "If you're good at arguing..." clarifying that he meant anyone in general, Mark answered as though he was referring to him arguing. Twice Christopher made it clear that he wasn't talking about Mark and was speaking generally, but both times Mark was simply not listening. He was more concerned with the sound of his own voice.
That's usually how I find thick and ignorant people to be.
zelda fan
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by bein'onest:
“Because Helen has told him not to tell Christopher anything. And Mark always does what Helen says. At least his true colours have been shown in the last few days. Christopher, meanwhile, is getting more confident, less willing to take cr@p from the likes of Mark and more popular with the public. Good for him ”

I agree but it's all so annoying watching Mark being superior with this knowledge of what was said about Christopher.
Alrightmate
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Ugh why doesn't Mark just say the nice things about Christopher the ex housemates said?
He infuriates me so much.”

That's actually an excellent point.
Why not indeed?

I get the feeling that it's information he's not keen on the rest of the house knowing should Christopher ever become a convenient scapegoat for some reason.
Often when people withhold information it can be because it gives them power.
moleymo
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“What's the point of Christopher even bothering to speak to Mark?
Mark just demonstrated there that he wasn't listening to a word he was saying and how thick he must be.
Twice Christopher said "If you're good at arguing..." clarifying that he meant anyone in general, Mark answered as though he was referring to him arguing. Twice Christopher made it clear that he wasn't talking about Mark and was speaking generally, but both times Mark was simply not listening. He was more concerned with the sound of his own voice.
That's usually how I find thick and ignorant people to be.”

I think mark is very thick not just a pretend thick , I think he talks about eyebrows and tans because he really is stupid
moleymo
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“That's actually an excellent point.
Why not indeed?”

He's such a dick
Alrightmate
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by moleymo:
“I think mark is very thick not just a pretend thick , I think he talks about eyebrows and tans because he really is stupid”

I think so too. But I wouldn't underestimate him, because I think he's thick in many ways, however he's also calculating and cunning.
zelda fan
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“That's actually an excellent point.
Why not indeed?”

Because he is scum who only cares about himself.
zofo
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by moleymo:
“I think mark is very thick not just a pretend thick , I think he talks about eyebrows and tans because he really is stupid”

And he has selective hearing and only hears things about him or relevant to him. Nothing else is important to him.
zelda fan
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by zofo:
“And he has selective hearing and only hears things about him or relevant to him. Nothing else is important to him.”

So true and im glad i never fell for his act as he has always been too shallow and selfish imo.
dialectic
25-07-2014
It's funny how Christopher's 'friends', Ashleigh and Chris, have not told him either. I've always been dubious about Chris or Ashleigh holding out any friendship for Christopher and I'd say he knows this too, which is why he is showing his disappointment to Mark, whom he believed was his friend. Now we know he isn't either.
KDDS07
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“That's actually an excellent point.
Why not indeed?

I get the feeling that it's information he's not keen on the rest of the house knowing should Christopher ever become a convenient scapegoat for some reason.
Often when people withhold information it can be because it gives them power.”

Power they might use against that same person some time in the future.
Angie_Plasty
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“It's funny how Christopher's 'friends', Ashleigh and Chris, have not told him either. I've always been dubious about Chris or Ashleigh holding out any friendship for Christopher and I'd say he knows this too, which is why he is showing his disappointment to Mark, whom he believed was his friend. Now we know he isn't either.”

They've all been told by Helen they're not allowed to tell him so are scared to.
Violet_Blue
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“They've all been told by Helen they're not allowed to tell him so are scared to.”

That's not really an excuse. Had Helen told one of them to keep something from the other they would not have kept their mouths shut. They both have shown genuine affection for Christopher but I do wonder how strong their loyalty and respect for him is.
YesNoMan
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Verence:
“Mark probably throwing Chris and Ashleigh under the bus again”

YAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

[Mexican guitarists appear from behind pillars, a confetti bomb is let off, people blow plastic party trumpets, a banner with a picture of a bus unravels from the ceiling.]
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