I don't know, he was sharing with Chris before the new housemates arrived, then Chris moved to a single bed next to Ashleigh, pav got his bed and tonight in live updates Christopher was saying it's the last night he and mark will share as after the eviction there will be a spare bed

But we don't see it all do we. There must be a reason why noone in there trusts him.

I think that is why I identify with Christopher - I don't have arguments either...I really don't - but people sometimes think you're afraid of confrontation or that you don't know how to stand your ground. It's reeally quite annoying! I prefer to state my case calmly (and with humour is it's appropriate) and if that person persists upsetting me, I just excluse them. But people do think you're a wimp because you won't tear strips off people. Other ways of conflict resolution other than shouting the odds are available!

As for Ashleigh and Chris - they aren't great friends with Christopher - they just keep in onside because of the dwindling number in the group - they need support. Like the rest of the house, they treat him as a pawn, a foot soldier and an also-ran.

The funny thing was, that it was Mark who cracked under the pressure. Did he reveal all? No but he made it dam obvious that he was in on it and who was kissing Helens ass when it all came out? Mark.

If Christopher was chosen, I really think himself, Chris and Ashleigh would have made a great team. He'd have been able to play along. At the end of the day when that ball came over the fence revealing Chris was the PH all those weeks ago, it was Christopher who kept quiet about it.

Christopher is right in this video. People DO underestimate him.

This is why I hope Christopher is the next PH. He deserves it and I think he would be very good with it.

They never said they don't trust him though, only that they don't want him to blab about it and brood, I think they are crapping themselves that Christopher will want to ask pav and Zoe if what was said is true rather than just bitch about them like the rest are doing

This is in a house full of people who like Steven and follow Helen like a lap dog. I don't think much of them as judges of character.

Not only did he keep quiet about that but Chris had nominated him that week, he could have really stuck the boot into Chris that week
I don't want him to be the next PHM though, it always goes to crap for those with the power

We don't no but that argument can be applied to every housemate in there.

True. Although I think Ashleigh has been fantastic with the power this week, BB always finds a way to mess it all up.

Seems to me Mark is trying to undermine Christopher's (growing) self-confidence by cowardly pretending to give him a compliment. Fortunately, Christopher is much smarter and sees through the whole thing and is having none of it. Mark, rightly, ends up looking foolish.

Ashleigh was great at the PHM because she is very devious , all her decisions were devious
She picked Chris because she couldn't hide it from him also I do believe that her friendship with Chris is genuine ( hers with Danielle definitely wasn't)
She chose mark because he's two faced and because he's friends with the cool group any fall out would lie with him first
She wanted winston next for the same reasons he's friends with the cool group also she knows he fancies her in a big way
She didn't want to pick Zoe or pav for eviction because she wanted them as scape goats
And wanted the suspicion to be on them
She didn't want Christopher as PHM because he's a nice guy and not devious at all
She sacrificed herself for ash ( who I don't believe she likes) because she wants to stay in the good books with the cool group
I don't believe her friendship with Helen now , her tears over winston or her tears over ash, I think she is very manipulative , a great game player yes but not very trustworthy.

I don't understand marks feelings towards Christopher all he gets from Christopher is loyalty, affection general dogsbody but you can see mark really doesn't like him shows him no respect never listens to him and uses him like a side kick, surely mark and see that Christopher is a bit of a catch? When I first found out that both guys were gay at the start of the show I thought noting would ever happen between them because Christopher is way out of marks league,with looks, personality and intelligence far above mark it's baffling to see mark calling all the shots

I think they would have been fine making the choices...on the flipside I think having Mark there did diminish the "us vs them" mentality that probably would have been cemented if it had just been Chris, Christopher and Ashleigh nominating the others.

It was probably wise for Ashleigh to pick outside of that core trio just so it looked less team vs team.

Yeah i agree good post. They would tell him if he did that. Also if you remember when Helen came in and ordered don't tell Christopher they all looked a bit confused to what she was going on about. The task has just finished everyones head was spinning at the time. Helen's obviously to blame though it's the whole house who take notice of her it seems which is annoying , but you can't really blame any of the others for that. She must be scary or something i guess lol Though Mark does slate and put down Christopher way more than he should.

They knew perfectly well what Helen was saying and nodded in agreement. It didn't seem confusing at all to them though it is confusing to us watching. Chris even remarked in the diary room that Helen played it well.

They don't trust him to do what they want, that is all.

I think that's a really good point

They know that Christopher would want to give the new housemates an opportunity to defend themselves by telling them straight out what ex housemates had said about them

The others don't want any explanation that might clear the air. They are more than happy to have two new targets for their nastiness and don't want Christopher getting in the way of that

I'm assuming it's in response to Mark suggesting that he is witholding information to protect him from Helen etc

I think that might have something to do with his coming out. I've not got much to base that on; just a feeling I have. He's from a big, farming family. Manly man type of atmosphere at the best of times; I've no doubt they were great when they got their heads around it, but I'm sure it was a difficult process for him. All this is just IMO, by the way.

Also, did anyone else notice that when Mark was discussing what Matthew had said he translated everything into 'Mark you can't trust him' 'Mark you must do this' 'Mark you must do that'. In fact, Matthew didn't mention Mark by name at all and was speaking, clearly, to the three of them. He's a self-important little twerp, that Mark.

It might be understandable but I can't support them for it. Mark, Ashli and Chris have been cowardly since the power alliance reveal. Pav and Zoe are paying the price for that cowardice. Now they're all treating their friend Christopher like crap because Helen says so. They've all become as bad as each other.

Has Christopher asked Ashleigh and Chris?

Would they really have trouble just saying the ex house mates said he was sound and ok?

Surely not. What is so revealing about that?

What on earth could he, as they say 'blab about',?

This handy excuse again. If she had told Chris not to tell Ashleigh something would he have complied? Not sure about vice versa as Ashleigh may well hold on to information if it suits her and that is what all this is about. Thank goodness for the big bad wolf Helen that everyone can hide behind and blame when it suits.

I want to say Chris grow a back bone but I suspect he has one he just chooses not use it.

I've said this on other threads. This all started when Steven was telling Christopher that it was between those 2 which made no sense to Christopher (and us) as he'd been told he wasn't up to be picked let alone first off when Steven was picked. Helen was there and went racing off to speak to Chris and Ashleigh. She ordered Pav out the door Anyway she told them not to tell Christopher anything as he's making a fuss () can't remember her exact words but they agreed immediately.

I think it was to hide Steven's lie and undermine Christopher. Helen is Helen but the so called nice HMs are doing her bidding I am shocked and disgusted that Chris and Ashleigh haven't spoken to Christopher. As for Mark what else would you expect.

Ashleigh and Chris are jockeying for final positions. Helen has one place and they are aware enough to know that Winston and Mark are too popular in the house ( and Know they possibly are on the outside) so that leaves two places. The newbies are the next targets then, I believe, Christopher will be sacrificed. Ash must be a problem for them also (unless there are 6 in the final).

When you put it that way, who could disagree.