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Salv*
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I do think it's about knowing your audience with this sort of thing. You know who you can and can't get away with those sort of comments and you make sure you choose the right target.

Had he said this to Biannca, she'd have whipped them out and probably dropped her pants as well.”

Exactly, I would say it to a couple of my friends as a joke, but I wouldn't dream about saying it to a few others who I don't know as well.
Addisonian
25-07-2014
I also noticed the way he kept on glancing at Ash while he was chanting it as if looking for Ash's approval.
mz fit
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by phil.c:
“I can't believe what I am reading....

You have all heard that phrase before..

It's Stag night humour.
Is that 'humour' just between the guys at the stag night? If not, and it's yelled out at women then it is just as nasty as it was when Winston said it to Helen, and every other time I've heard it said. If it's something just said within the confines of the partygoers on the stag night then this should have been said quietly and privately between Ash and Winston.

Hen night humour can be worse....
Been to about 30 or 40 and will completely agree the humour between the participants of the party can be worse. However, I have never, ever heard anything like that yelled out to someone who hasn't been in the party or hasn't been interacting and making themselves part of it.

I doubt you minded the 'Stripper night'
I didn't mind it because the guys were doing what they wanted to do. It was a themed task and they were all part of it in one way or another. Winston yelled this out to someone getting a spray tan and there were two 'civilians' in the room.


And you probably laughed at the 'Full Monty'
No actually I didn't care for it.

Even the 'Carry on' films contained it....
Pretty much says it all here...dated and sexist shows that pretty much contained humour for men. I don't know many women who enjoyed the films or look back on them fondly. Men on the other hand...

Stop pretending to be offended or stop watching BB..
I, and probably many others, don't pretend to be offended by BB. I participate in a forum where we discuss things that happen on BB.

What do expect from a house full of young horny people
He's 27 years old...it's not like he's an immature kid. I wouldn't be happy seeing someone that age acting that way in real life so why would I like it on the telly?
...”

My responses in bold. Ash is the one that got to me - Helen does everything she can to 'protect' him and he lets the simpleton carry on.
pope_tart
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Nothing wrong with it at all. A lot of people say that to their women friends. She knows it's a laugh.”

does she? I would suspect that being in the industry that she is in, she has heard it said to her more often than the average woman would have...I imagine she gets really pi***ed off with hearing it, and extremely disappointed when people she actually likes shout it at her.

but then, unlike you, I'm not a mindreader
JanisElizabeth
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Hoffmister:
“Helen is a human with rights ..Winstons chants were vile..

But yeah another vile HM demanded a snog off a married paid for worker..just as vile”

They were fairly typical "laddish" chants. Not very mature or admirable but hardly vile!
sheils1
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Hoffmister:
“The husbands/boyfriends/girlfriends of the female therapists doing the treatments must have chuckled about that..I mean sexual harassment in the work place is OK nowadays ,isnt it?

Winston to win”

He didnt like it when Bianca embarrassed him did he?

He should shut his mouth and stop doing it to women.
dekaf
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by mtj:
“It was a joke to a close friend. Notice he didn't say it to Ashleigh.”

That's what I thought. Him and Ash were just mucking about, which is how Helen took it!
sheils1
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“They were fairly typical "laddish" chants. Not very mature or admirable but hardly vile!”

Those comments are vile to some women, really when most women hear them they look at the idiot saying it and think "what a sado he must be very desperate "
Salv*
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by pope_tart:
“does she? I would suspect that being in the industry that she is in, she has heard it said to her more often than the average woman would have...I imagine she gets really pi***ed off with hearing it, and extremely disappointed when people she actually likes shout it at her.

but then, unlike you, I'm not a mindreader”

Not really, the only time its acceptable is if you friends say it to you, no matter whether what industry your in. It's less acceptable if you say it to someone you hardly know.

People read into so much on here, you can't even joke around when even the person thinks its OK.
Val_Beam
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Hoffmister:
“Helen is a human with rights ..Winstons chants were vile..

But yeah another vile HM demanded a snog off a married paid for worker..just as vile”

Jale is human with rights,helen 's comments of slug and fat knobhead were vile,never mind jale,you can get thin,helen will always be a filthy mouthed old slapper.As for winston,as thick as a bowl of sago pudding..and just as vile.
AOTB
25-07-2014
Charmless, classless, embarrassment again from utter buffoon Winston.

Sure it's hardly the biggest deal ever but how anyone can actually look upon this absolute cretinous moron as being in any way someone to admire or respect is beyond me.

I do wonder if those who support him would be cool getting their tits out on demand, or having any man shout at them to get em out in the street. Perhaps if they wanted to see the tits of your mother, sister, daughter..

I lose a little respect for any slutbuckets, I mean people, who actually condone or hold Winston up as any kind of decent human being (and aren't doing it for a joke). The guy's pretty much just a sleazy thick scumbag.

The tits out are for the #LADZ though obvs, so it's all ok yeah?
Salv*
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“Those comments are vile to some women, really when most women hear them they look at the idiot saying it and think "what a sado he must be very desperate "”

Yes, they would think if they don't KNOW the person. Eg builders shouting it at passers by. But when its aimed at friends, the huge majority will laugh at it. You need to know if you have banter with someone to say something like that, obviously Winston and Helen have a banter relationship where she won't get offended. Now, if Chris had said that to Helen, she wouldn't have responded in the way she did with Winston. It's just the way it works.

To call Winston a "scumbag" over comments are

Conor was a scumbag, Winston is just a dim individual.
sheils1
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Yes, they would think if they don't KNOW the person. Eg builders shouting it at passers by. But when its aimed at friends, the huge majority will laugh at it. You need to know if you have banter with someone to say something like that, obviously Winston and Helen have a banter relationship where she won't get offended. Now, if Chris had said that to Helen, she wouldn't have responded in the way she did with Winston. It's just the way it works.

To call Winston a "scumbag" over comments are

Conor was a scumbag, Winston is just a dim individual.”

But he didnt like it when Bianca did it to him did he?
AOTB
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Yes, they would think if they don't KNOW the person. Eg builders shouting it at passers by. But when its aimed at friends, the huge majority will laugh at it. You need to know if you have banter with someone to say something like that, obviously Winston and Helen have a banter relationship where she won't get offended. Now, if Chris had said that to Helen, she wouldn't have responded in the way she did with Winston. It's just the way it works.

To call Winston a "scumbag" over comments are

Conor was a scumbag, Winston is just a dim individual.”

Winston is a scumbag. Deal with it.
BROXI BEAR
25-07-2014
I was embarrassed for him.
td1983
25-07-2014
As soon as I heard him say that, I knew the militant feminists on here would be out in force. Quelle surprise....
momoriro
25-07-2014
Helish seemed to enjoy the attention and did not reprimand them for it!
redex
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Petula Gordino:
“Sadly it looks like BB producers have got a job lined up for their winner (Winston)”

Is Mark no longer BB's 'golden child'?
Cat-
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Charmless, classless, embarrassment again from utter buffoon Winston.

Sure it's hardly the biggest deal ever but how anyone can actually look upon this absolute cretinous moron as being in any way someone to admire or respect is beyond me.

I do wonder if those who support him would be cool getting their tits out on demand, or having any man shout at them to get em out in the street. Perhaps if theywanted to see the tits of your mother, sister, daughter..

I lose a little respect for any slutbuckets, I mean people, who actually condone or holds Winston up as any kind of decent human being (and aren't doing it for a joke). The guy's pretty much just a sleazy thick scumbag.

The tits out are for the #LADZ though obvs, so it's all ok yeah?”

Well said AOTB,

I don't understand people here trying to justify this comment just because it was Helen he was saying it to. It showed both Winston and Ash up in that clip.
earlofbedlam
25-07-2014
Some of these so called alpha males give our gender a bad name.
AOTB
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Cat-:
“Well said AOTB,

I don't understand people here trying to justify this comment just because it was Helen he was saying it to. It showed both Winston and Ash up in that clip.”

I think it also shows viewers up who make excuses for, or think it's and he are cool, funny or any of the above.

Teenage boys and slutbuckets like Winston basically.

#bantz innit.
Salv*
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“But he didnt like it when Bianca did it to him did he?”

A little different. The "tits out for the lads" is a phrase commonly used and was said to someone that have known each other MUCH longer than the 25 mins that Bianca and Winston did.

What Bianca said to Winston is not equivalent to what Winston said to good friend Helen... a more accurate equivalent would be, "Helen, I want to lick your p****y". Now that would be a little more shocking.

I wonder if these feminists were out in force during the comments used in BB5 and BB6 of similar nature, or is it a new thing that people complain about everything nowadays? Next, if someone says the word "nipple", there will be outrage with a prediction of 10,000 OFCOM complaints.

And no one in their right mind, young or not, used "bantz" or "ladz", we're not in 2006 anymore. That belongs to the Piczo era..... wow, who remembers Piczo? It was before Bebo? That was extremely lame
Yera
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“They were fairly typical "laddish" chants. Not very mature or admirable but hardly vile!”

I thought the "Come on you reds" poster would have upset her more tongue in cheek by big brother
dtorre
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Nothing wrong with it at all. A lot of people say that to their women friends. She knows it's a laugh, obviously if it was towards someone like Toya, it would have been different.”

Feminists are immune to logic, their agenda is all that matters. They want everyone (especially men) censored according to their opinions

Topless women in men's magazines - sexist, unacceptable
Topless men in women's magazines - perfectly fine, no problem
AOTB
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“A little different. The "tits out for the lads" is a phrase commonly used and was said to someone that have known each other MUCH longer than the 25 mins that Bianca and Winston did.

What Bianca said to Winston is not equivalent to what Winston said to good friend Helen... a more accurate equivalent would be, "Helen, I want to lick your p****y". Now that would be a little more shocking. ”

You're making excuses and your argument is weak.

If Bianca or Helen went round telling blokes to get their cocks out (apart from making the teen virgin male viewers get all excited, 'huh huh, she said cock' Beavis/ Butthead stylee), they would get slaughtered.

The double standards on here is embarrassing to see. Slut shaming is roundly clapped and endorsed yet the female Bianca get's a pass.

You people lack consistency, and logic. Once the teen boyz get to see real life actual tits on a real life non internet/ tv woman in the real world they will start to be less impressed/ excited, embarrassing etc with this type of thing.
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