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Feeling sorry for Pav
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LIZALYNN
25-07-2014
I just don't think Pav has been given a fair crack of the whip. He could have actually been quite an interesting housemate given half the chance to develop. Now he looks totally disillusioned with the whole thing and who can blame him. The other housemates have not been kind to him mainly because he has made an effort to get to know them all. Steven's comment was horrible, I shouldn't think Pav enjoys watching Steven constantly picking his nose.
On the other hand they seem to be in awe of Zoe just because she oozes confidence and has had success in her life. I don't get it at all. She seems a nice person but no more than Pav in my opinion.
JVS
25-07-2014
I'm not sure he's very interesting, but I'm feeling sorry for him, too. He seems a decent enough person who's been stitched up by ex-HMs.
gemma41576
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by JVS:
“I'm not sure he's very interesting, but I'm feeling sorry for him, too. He seems a decent enough person who's been stitched up by ex-HMs.”

I was thinking the same. Isn't this all because of what 3 ex hm's said when advising The Power Hm's? Hasn't any of them thought it could possibly be sour grapes? It might not be, but It's sad, he hasn't really done anything wrong.

Can't see why they can't give him the benefit of the doubt? then (and if) he proves them right at least no-one can really say anything. IMO very immature behaviour
Blondie X
25-07-2014
I agree. The poor boy has no idea what he's done wrong and looks lost in there. Someone said before that he is more of an old school BB HM who would have fitted into the C4 era far more than this shambles
Toasty
25-07-2014
It must be a real kick in the nuts to be replaced by newbys on BB, so no wonder they wanted to get rid of them!
wazzyboy
25-07-2014
He's done what I'd do going in there, even from the outset. Not get too entangled in any particular HM or group of HMs, and when they've become so polarised by the time he gets in, if he were doing anything sneaky he'd have aligned himself with the HMs he thinks the public like the most.
Conehead
25-07-2014
I really hope he stays over Steven. His contribution to the house dynamic could be crucial if he gets another week or two.
Markren
25-07-2014
Pav will explode out if it with his out of control charisma.
Erinna
25-07-2014
I feel sorry for him too he really hasn't been given a chance. Felt for him in the diary room missing his family it must feel very lonely for him in there as he knows Steven etc are hostile towards him.
yellowlabbie
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Conehead:
“I really hope he stays over Steven. His contribution to the house dynamic could be crucial if he gets another week or two.”

So do I, so just get voting for Steven.
Groundhogal
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So do I, so just get voting for Steven.”

Steven's the favourite to go but Pav's odds have already started to shorten this morning.
Callous
25-07-2014
He didn't help himself with his VT to be honest. Saying you'll gameplay and manipulate the others wasn't a good start.

The housemates got over that...but the combination of their paranoia and what the ex-housemates said really did him in again by compounding that initial distrust.

To be fair I don't blame the housemates for reacting the way they have based on the information they have been given.

The ex-housemates should have been far more careful with the language they used...as it has made things uncomfortable for everyone.
D.A.N.N.Y
25-07-2014
So do i. I can't make out what he has done wrong, unless i have missed something.
Cranberryapple
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Erinna:
“I feel sorry for him too he really hasn't been given a chance. Felt for him in the diary room missing his family it must feel very lonely for him in there as he knows Steven etc are hostile towards him.”

I agree.

His DR demeanour was very sad and lonely looking.

He knows they have the hump with him but doesn't really know why. Asking Steven got him absolutely nowhere.
jeannie26
25-07-2014
Maybe that's his ploy to make us feel sorry for him. Well it's working with me LOL

I can't see anything he has done wrong. It takes time to get to know the people in the house. I am sure most of them are a bit different to what we see. I mean Zoe can't be that enthusiastic 24 hrs a day Can she?
aggielane
25-07-2014
He was having fun in there. Playing games, dancing, chatting with everybody and then the ex-hms ruined it. I felt really sorry for him in the diary room.
Kittycat36
25-07-2014
Danielle is bitter and nasty and I think that is why she has it in for them. She even had a go at Kim saying do you think if you had not walked you would have taken my place and I would still be in....or words to that affect (sorry just finished nights cant think too straight )
icefall
25-07-2014
I reckon he could go tonight
mrblank
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I agree. The poor boy has no idea what he's done wrong and looks lost in there. Someone said before that he is more of an old school BB HM who would have fitted into the C4 era far more than this shambles”

that was me
scotslassie
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Kittycat36:
“Danielle is bitter and nasty and I think that is why she has it in for them. She even had a go at Kim saying do you think if you had not walked you would have taken my place and I would still be in....or words to that affect (sorry just finished nights cant think too straight )”


Exactly right. I wish someone would title a thread about Danielle & co spoiling BB for Zoe and Pav just so she reads it.


Danielle especially should be ashamed. Duplicitous chav!

Neither Pav nor Zoe are favourites of mine, but they both deserved at least a fair go at the game.
Nesta Robbins
25-07-2014
He did seem lost and he's done nothing wrong. The only crumbs we've been fed was when he was circling around Winston in the bath, and I initially thought.... ooh that's a bit domineering, then realised hang on - he's just doing what little kids enjoy, balancing along thin walls until they fall off! I realised I was as bad as the House, reading all sorts into 5 seconds of edit!

Let's hope for big cheers tonight - make Pav feel better, but mess with their heads even more!
amelie74
25-07-2014
Felt sorry for him in last night's show when he was talking in the DR - seemed sad and lost.

I haven't seen him going from group to group telling tales as claimed by ex hms - guess they made assumptions based on his VT and a bit of resentment on Danielle's part that he's there and she's not.
SillyBillyGoat
25-07-2014
A few days ago (when he went along with the "Chris is the most two-faced" thing because he couldn't think of anything else), I really wasn't impressed with him. That said, I do actually feel bad for him at the moment, I think he's getting a lot of unwarranted hostility.

That's how it goes in there, though. As soon as someone becomes an easy scapegoat, people are more than happy to go along with it. When the heat's on someone else, it's not on you.
wotnot
25-07-2014
He has been well and truly stitched up and it only confirms that the ex hm's are vindictive and nasty and deserve to be out.
summerbunny
25-07-2014
That's the thing these house mates would have been fantastic if they had came in in week 2 or 3 , instead bb wanted a scripted story line , pav just give big brother what they wanted and so did Bianca with all the vile sex talk and tits out, basically they were selected for this years 'game' and were cheaper than actors, they have done their job to shake up the house now the producers want them out, Bianca was sure to go and they knew it with the voting twist, now it's Pavs turn by turning house mates against him and people on bots calling him boring, they arn't stupid, none of these 3 they wanted to be the winner they just wanted free actors, now Zoe is next so they have manipulated the house mates not to trust her.
I won't be at all shocked if they do a house mates only eviction either or a double eviction , they want her out by any means. This unfortunately isn't real big brother but scripted reality.
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