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Is it *possible* that the reason people don't like Pav is . . .
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Prof_Matt
25-07-2014
. . . because he's Asian?

It may be coincidence that the only two black housemates were voted out in weeks 2 and 3 and now there's an Asian housemate there's an awful lot of criticism of him. (Though to be fair, the GBP did vote to save him over Bianca.)
JanisElizabeth
25-07-2014
No it isn't anything to do with him being Asian.
Skyrah
25-07-2014
I don't dislike Pav
Purves Grundy
25-07-2014
Pav is not disliked outside of the house, as far as I can tell anyway. The only reason he's disliked in the house is because of Danielle and Bianca spreading bitter, slanderous bullshit about him in that stupid task.
Anya D
25-07-2014
I don't think you'll get very far with thread, it might even get closed or deleted.
Of course people hold prejudices and it is entirely possible that maybe some people do dislike because he's Asian.

We have no way of confirming this and equally no way of denying it.
That won't stop people instantly posting that you are wrong and using the phrase, "playing the race card...".
molliepops
25-07-2014
He seems nice that is all he needs to be this year to be suspect and picked on by the other HMs we have seen it several times now, just being nice being considered as some sort of sneaky way to play the game
sniperuk
25-07-2014
It's just paranoia and him being an easy target being a newbie. Nothing that i've seen it's because of his race.
earlofbedlam
25-07-2014
This thread was not necessary .
Ronell_Davis
25-07-2014
Why is race and skin colour always brought in to it ? I don't like Pav because so far he's come across very boring and does not bring a lot to the house .
Cythna
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“He seems nice that is all he needs to be this year to be suspect and picked on by the other HMs we have seen it several times now, just being nice being considered as some sort of sneaky way to play the game ”

Yes, how dare people like Christopher, Chris and Pav go on BB and show how to be friendly and reasonable. They are showing up the other HMs by this selfish and inconsiderate behaviour. Get them Out!
Pitman
25-07-2014
as much as I'd like to take more potshots at Steven, I am not prepared to start calling him racist with absolutely no evidence whatsoever
auntysplat
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Purves Grundy:
“Pav is not disliked outside of the house, as far as I can tell anyway. The only reason he's disliked in the house is because of Danielle and Bianca spreading bitter, slanderous bullshit about him in that stupid task.”

Matthew did not help either, has he even met him,
sara-dale
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by earlofbedlam:
“This thread was not necessary .”

Not a single thread on this forum is necessary.
KatrinaK
25-07-2014
Skin colour has nothing to do with it.

Gina, Shilpa, Deena, Brian B to name a few?

Viewers dislike HM because of the way they are presented to us on screen.

I actually don't mind Pav. He hasn't done anything wrong and what annoys me is he's getting accused of doing things and being someone he isn't. I just find him boring. He's a leave or take HM.

I don't think anything is to do with race.
Purves Grundy
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by auntysplat:
“Matthew did not help either, has he even met him,”

True, but I felt he was at least bit more measured in his comments about Pav than the other two were.
Moo_Chops
25-07-2014
I personally cannot see anything wrong with him.
Problem for him is that he joined late and once again, like a few people, has been targeted because they feel he is weak, and possibly other reasons.
The hate he receives in the house is totally unjustified and sadly par for the course.
Pootmatoot
25-07-2014
I'm sure there's a degree of that.... come on let's be realistic.

I wouldn't class it as racism, but people are naturally slightly less friendly with people outside their tribe and frame of reference when they first met. This isn't outrageous, just basic human psychology.
beanie.
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Prof_Matt:
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It may be coincidence that the only two black housemates were voted out in weeks 2 and 3”

Marlon????
qwerty_1234
25-07-2014
No, the reason he is disliked is because he's boring.
eva_prior
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Prof_Matt:
“. . . because he's Asian?

It may be coincidence that the only two black housemates were voted out in weeks 2 and 3 and now there's an Asian housemate there's an awful lot of criticism of him. (Though to be fair, the GBP did vote to save him over Bianca.)”

This is how I see the race/culture dynamic.

He is not unpopular with the general viewers. However, in respect of the main ( not exclusive) demography of the eviction crowd and voters his traditionally Sikh image creates a disadvantage for him relative to the likes of Winston and Ash.

To recover from that disadvantage, Pav needs time, to show his points of interest etc. unfortunately being a newbie, time is in short supply.

Had the eviction crowds and voters demography been predominantly his own religious group, then he would have had the advantage over the other males. A lot of Sikh girls find his image very attractive.

So I guess it is a 'race/ cultural thing' but not a 'racist thing' in most cases.
LochLion
25-07-2014
I think he's a nice guy, and he's not boring at all. He's tried engaging them in games, he's done pranks, he gets involved in tasks and seems generally up for a laugh, but they're either not giving him a chance because of the nasty stuff said about him, or they're simply too tired or over the whole thing, especially with all the crap BB have pulled on them, to be bothered. If he'd have been in from start, he would have been seen totally differently imo.
Rafferty
25-07-2014
Didn't you get the answer you wanted here either?


http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...325&highlight=
Old Endeavour
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“I don't dislike Pav ”

But you MUST! And it MUST BE because of his race.

Apparently!
Rafferty
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by sara-dale:
“Not a single thread on this forum is necessary.”

Dog with a bone?
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...325&highlight=
Old Endeavour
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Prof_Matt:
“. . . because he's Asian?

It may be coincidence that the only two black housemates were voted out in weeks 2 and 3 and now there's an Asian housemate there's an awful lot of criticism of him. (Though to be fair, the GBP did vote to save him over Bianca.)”

No because many, many people are not in any way racist.
I understand that may come as quite a shock to some.
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