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Ashleigh - Immunity
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GibsonSG
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“It should of applied to Ashleigh and Chris and Mark. It's very rare BB tell people there not up for eviction this week then change it that's the point. Ok to tell a smaller number of people this then change it that is rare. Obviously they've done big twists and things before involving bigger numbers.”

True but they are running out of twists now. I mean how often have they recycled that damn secret room.
jp761
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“True but they are running out of twists now. I mean how often have they recycled that damn secret room.”

Ok it can sometimes seem like some people may pick and chose at times. But I think it's more to do with , a lot people are just getting fed up in general with BB interfering to much. A bit is alright but they've messed with loads this year.
abs2512
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by ultros:
“But big brother lies to them all the time.
The night Marlon got evicted was a lie!
The whole of the last series was based on lies!!!

And aren't people calling for Helen's pass to the final to be taken away?
Won't that be a lie to Helen as she 'was told' she had a pass to the final, so why are people calling for it to happen if they are so against BB lying to the housemates?
Surely this should apply to all housemates not just Ashleigh ”

Yes, people are calling for Helen's pass to be revoked but these two things are not the same. Helen has been shown to be vulgar and offensive and to the best of my knowledge, although mostly it's here say on the forums, she has been given warnings that amount to double figures for supposed bullying etc - on saying that I like Helen and as the group has got smaller her behaviour has improved and I think a lot of her aggressiveness is/was due to alcohol - the Ashleigh immunity is in my eyes totally different, she was told quite clearly she was immune and I stand by my first post, BB has changed the goalpost to suit their own needs, but at least the public have a choice who goes, do not get me started on Marlon and Danielle, neither of whom i particularly liked but in my opinion nobody should lose their place in the BB house they way they did.
cah
25-07-2014
I'm not an Ashleigh Fan by any means ,but it was a dirty Trick by BB
They told Ashleigh that not only would she be Immune ,but that the PHM s she chose to join the Alliance would also be Immune ,so Immune they should have been

Just like Helens pass should stay until the Final ,and Mark should keep his 5 grand
E05297535
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by abs2512:
“But the fact remains that Ashleigh was told by IRIS in the Control Room that because she had been chosen by the public she would be immune from any nomination this week - BB changed the rules - that is why people on here are upset - it's not because she was chosen by the nominated housemates - or at least that's they way I see it.”

And that will be the big deciding factor in her staying in tonight..despite the hate thread/comments I read about her on here of all places! !! BB can't b saying one thing and change their minds about that decision the next. ..they cocked up...simples!!!
ultros
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Read my whole post mate i said more lol You like doing this don't you lol”

You added to your post after I quoted it mate
jp761
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by ultros:
“You added to your post after I quoted it mate ”

Prove it But if i did it's a good thing to add better detail sometimes
soapmania
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rikki65:
“And what some people can't seem to understand, it wasn't the fact it was done to Ashleigh, it was the fact that BB duped the public and went back on their work, and keep moving the goalpost to suit the nasty group aka helen and her lapdogs.”

*bang bang!!!!*

Thank you!! I thought it was just me!! I swear it seems BB are Hell bent on her (Helen) being this years winner!! And I'm so shocked by the amount of brain washed DS members this year singing the evil cow's praises ... It's sickening!
Toy_Hero
25-07-2014
I do think Big Brother screwed Ashleigh over this week. Especially since she was chosen by the public, more than likely because she is a strong contender to win. Truthfully, the biggest thing to annoy me this week was when BB said "There is nowhere to hide, NOBODY is safe." If Jale can have her killer nomination rescinded in Girl Power week, then Helen shouldn't have been safe for this.

I think it just doesn't sit well to tell Ashleigh, "you've been chosen by the public and you are immune" but not put Helen in danger. You can't have a power trip version of Big Brother where shit is constantly hitting the fan and have one housemate immune from it all
phil solo
25-07-2014
Where HMs have previously been told they are immune only for this to be later revealed as a falsehood the public have been "in on the twist".

However in this instance Big Brother went so far as to issue a News Item to the public which reaffirmed the immunity given to the PHMA, and then almost immediately reneged on that obligation after the final eviction line-up was known.

Observers can be forgiven for interpreting this sudden and unexpected reversal to be a cynical ploy to make the eviction result slightly less of a "one horse race" and generate more phone-vote revenue.

Had Steven been saved a furious three-way vote-off between Ash, Ashleigh and Pav would doubtless have been very lucrative indeed, and even the less evenly-balanced face-off of Ashleigh and Steven will get those who support Ashleigh voting furiously just to be sure Steven leaves. Without her in the mix, there is far less 'jeopardy' in the vote because on any measure Steven is a goner therefore much less incentive for anyone to bother spending their 50p unless they are fans of his and trying to stave off the seemingly inevitable.

All of which begins to look like the twist was a last-minute decision specifically engineered to put Ashleigh (who was, let's be frank, the most likely candidate of all the PHMAs to be chosen) into the eviction vote lineup. That, to me, smells a bit ripe, and it would smell ripe whether Mark or Chris or even Helen had found themselves "on the block" because of it.

Deceiving the HMS is a well-known ploy, however when you explicitly say one thing to the public only to renege on it, it looks like you're lying to us too, and creating the impression that the show is not only prepared to **** over the Housemates when it wants but will happily **** the public too is rather dangerous if you want to retain viewer loyalty.

Sadly, in any number of ways, this series has felt like the production team are giving us all the proverbial finger and really couldn't give a toss.
puddy
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by momma11:
“Yes I would , it makes no difference to me who they chose , those HM's were promised immunity , that should have been honoured , the same way Mark's £ 5,000 and Helen's pass to the final have been.
If they can take away Immunity from eviction , then they can take away the other benefits that have been bestowed on other HM's .
Fair's Fair .”

Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Expect the unexpected.
momma11
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by puddy:
“Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time. Expect the unexpected.”

True....but they lied to the public

That's not on .
nomad2king
25-07-2014
Ashleigh wasn't nominated, therefore no lies. This "public" vote that few people even knew about and those that did, didn't seem to realise what it was about. How is it fair that nominations are basically in the hands of one person? How was it fair that the girls were immune from nomination and in control of the nominations? The impact of any group having control of nominations and being allowed to openly discuss them, carries on beyond that week. They now know each others preferences and can vote according in the future.
GibsonSG
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by nomad2king:
“Ashleigh wasn't nominated, therefore no lies. This "public" vote that few people even knew about and those that did, didn't seem to realise what it was about. How is it fair that nominations are basically in the hands of one person? How was it fair that the girls were immune from nomination and in control of the nominations? The impact of any group having control of nominations and being allowed to openly discuss them, carries on beyond that week. They now know each others preferences and can vote according in the future.”

True. I must say I was surprised when Ashleigh became the power hm. It just shows that her supporters are probably teenage girls with multiple mobile devices.
Scarlett Berry
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“True. I must say I was surprised when Ashleigh became the power hm. It just shows that her supporters are probably teenage girls with multiple mobile devices.”

Don't teenage girls tend to dislike the attractive, and in this case, beautiful young females.
GibsonSG
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Don't teenage girls tend to dislike the attractive, and in this case, beautiful young females.”

Not always it depends on whether they attract male attention and whether someone they fancy is interested in said female housemate. A lot of people see her as a victim, god alone knows why she is the least victimised hm of any series I have watched - I have watched all of them.
threecheeses
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Don't teenage girls tend to dislike the attractive, and in this case, beautiful young females.”



Ever feel like you are going round in circles?
benbeez1
25-07-2014
if she goes
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