Pav is the man on everyone's lips (vid)

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Helen567

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Pav simply cannot win when we have this kind of victim blaming. What an absolutely shitty position he is in. The ex HMS lie and the House run with that lie and engage with him less and less isolating him and making him less and less likely to go to them.

Anyone see him on that video last night when they were 'celebrating' Steven going and those remaining, well Ashleigh and Zoe? He looked genuinely nervous and uncomfortable

And now we too are joining in with the unacceptable and unjustifiable bad treatment of Pav. Still, I suppose if your favourite is bad mouthing him it's difficult not to to join in.”

It's true the guy is stuck between a rock and a hard place. I felt so sorry for him last night he looked so uncomfortable.

eva_prior

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by jp761:
“To be fair every housemate has treated Pav pretty bad. Because of what they were told and the crowd booing him bad on top of that. So what do you expect unfortunately.”

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BiB: I would expect them to make their own minds up based upon how he is with them.

Originally Posted by jp761:
“Actually thinking about it he's already played it to a degree.”

He has not 'played' anything. He's staying the facts as they are, and saying how that makes him feel.

Basically he's being honest through and through.

jp761

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“She is coming across more badly nowadays than she did when she was holed up with her succession of bitch sisters

She is now arrogant and a hypocrite to boot. When Mark said he was keeping in the back of his mind what Danielle and the rest said about Pav she agreed to do so quite strollgy but then said that Pav is not being left out So are Danielle and the others right about Pav then Ashleigh and do you agree Ashleigh, clearly she does but but he isn't being negatively treated because of that perception Of course he is. We know it and she knows it.

Pav apprently isn't even allowed to feel rough about his position either because that would be playing a card meaning it could make the HMs look bad and both Asheigh and Mark now sensing a win in sight really do not want their game plan knocked off track at this late stage.

How full of spite and nastiness is this supposed nice girl.”

Yet her popularity increases even over to the eviction crowd now the bookies e.t.c It's only a few haters trying to spin any tiny thing she does or says , making out like she's soo nasty lol Fact is ex housemates saying what they did about Pav and his crowd reaction , of course all housemates are weary of him. And Danielle telling Ashleigh that Pav was creeping on her watching her. What do you expect ? Why aren't some people on here taking all this into account. Yes obviously it's not nice for Pav I feel sorry for him. But thats the ex housemates messages and BB's doing , not the other housemates in the house.

jp761

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by eva_prior:
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BiB: I would expect them to make their own minds up based upon how he is with them.

He has not 'played' anything. He's staying the facts as they are, and saying how that makes him feel.

Basically he's being honest through and through.”

Maybe take read of the post i've just made adressing things. But so they shouldn't take any notice of there ex housrmates of 6 weeks then ? It's bigbrother they crave for outside info so of course there take notice , human nature.

eva_prior

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by jp761:
“Maybe take read of the post i've just made adressing things. But so they shouldn't take any notice of there ex housrmates of 6 weeks then ? It's bigbrother they crave for outside info so of course there take notice , human nature.”

BiB: There is no universal human nature - we all vary tremendously in our responses to a set of given circumstances.

You asked an open ended question to which I gave you a personally based response. If the ex-housemates had shown consistent level-headedness, kindness and integrity then maybe, but still with a pinch of salt. In the context of the three ex HMs that were involved, I would have stored their advice where it belonged - in the bin. That is what I would have expected them to do.

AOTB

26-07-2014

Totally agree. The ex HMs, (especially Matthew, as I expect no less from the likes of Danielle) were totally out of order, and I for one question both their evidence to back up their claims on him as well as their motives.

Pav is way more interesting to me than pretty much all the rest of them.

I haven't actually cared who wins from the off and still don't really but if I had to pick right now who I would want to win, it would be him. (although Helen winning would be hilarious just to see this place lose it and go crazy, but it's never gonna happen

).

Pav- the thinking man's HM.

eva_prior

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Totally agree. The ex HMs, (especially Matthew, as I expect no less from the likes of Danielle) were totally out of order, and I for one question both their evidence to back up their claims on him as well as their motives.

Pav is way more interesting to me than pretty much all the rest of them.

I haven't actually cared who wins from the off and still don't really but if I had to pick right now who I would want to win, it would be him. (although Helen winning would be hilarious just to see this place lose it and go crazy, but it's never gonna happen ).

Pav- the thinking man's HM.”

Pav - the thinking wo/man's HM.

Just a teeeneee weeeeneeeee tweeeek to purrrfection.

jp761

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by eva_prior:
“BiB: There is no universal human nature - we all vary tremendously in our responses to a set of given circumstances.

You asked an open ended question to which I gave you a personally based response. If the ex-housemates had shown consistent level-headedness, kindness and integrity then maybe, but still with a pinch of salt. In the context of the three ex HMs that were involved, I would have stored their advice where it belonged - in the bin. That is what I would have expected them to do.”

Of course there isn't but theres general respones most people do to certain things. It doesn't matter what you would do either that's you obviously. Add on top of all this the fact there all in the BB hardly a "normal" environment.

Sasparella

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by jp761:
“Maybe take read of the post i've just made adressing things. But so they shouldn't take any notice of there ex housrmates of 6 weeks then ? It's bigbrother they crave for outside info so of course there take notice , human nature.”

Not if they are decent human beings no, they can keep what their friends said in the back of their minds, but they should make up their OWN minds about what they think of him.

jp761

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“Not if they are decent human beings no, they can keep what their friends said in the back of their minds, but they should make up their OWN minds about what they think of him.”

The whole house is doing it. Whether there "decent" human beings or not is obviously open for debate. But as i've just put in another post BB is hardly a normal environment is it. Why wouldn't they take notice of ex housemates who they now "think" are privvy to alsorts of outside information.

eva_prior

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by jp761:
“Of course there isn't but theres general respones most people do to certain things. It doesn't matter what you would do either that's you obviously. Add on top of all this the fact there all in the BB hardly a "normal" environment.”

'most' maybe? being the operative word.

I reiterate, your post asked what did you expect them to do. So I gave you a personally centred response about my expectations, not what would some people do?

hope that makes sense.

AOTB

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by eva_prior:
“Pav - the thinking wo/man's HM.

Just a teeeneee weeeeneeeee tweeeek to purrrfection.”

Ha, do you know I even thought of putting the thinking 'persons' HM but it didn't have quite the same ring to it. I thought I might get pulled up on that bit.

Yeah your version is far better I agree-

'Pav the thinking wo/man's HM'. Yup, I'm good with that!

jp761

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by eva_prior:
“'most' maybe? being the operative word.

I reiterate, your post asked what did you expect them to do. So I gave you a personally centred response about my expectations, not what would some people do?

hope that makes sense.”

Yes what do people expect them to think. They get what they think is privledged correct outside information about Pav and Zoe. Being in that house without any for weeks. There going to end up believing it all much more , than someone might do normally.

jp761

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Ha, do you know I even thought of putting the thinking 'person's' HM but it didn't have quite the same ring to it. I thought I might get pulled up on that bit.

Yeah your version is far better I agree-

'Pav the thinking wo/mans's HM'. Yup, I'm good with that! ”

Hows he a thinking womans or mans anything has he done or said much at all yet ? I suppose you could argue bar just thinking

jp761

26-07-2014

Deleted my internets fault lol

AOTB

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by jp761:
“Hows he a thinking womans or mans anything has he done or said much at all yet ? I suppose you could argue bar just thinking ”

Jeez, yeah alright dude, I heard you the first time!

As for why he is the thinking woman or man's HM, I'm afraid I'm not actually allowed to tell you...

The first rule of 'thinking wo/man's club', is you do NOT talk about thinking wo/man's club.
The second rule is... er... eeerily identical to the first..

Shhh- you ain't seen me right.

eva_prior

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by jp761:
“Hows he a thinking womans or mans anything has he done or said much at all yet ? I suppose you could argue bar just thinking ”

stop spoiling the fun for us Pav appreciators doin a bit of appreciating

but out - its private.....only 'lil' pavlovas allowed in...its a club of exclusivity which only thinking wo/men will understand....without needing an explanation.
Last edited by eva_prior : 26-07-2014 at 19:48

dialectic

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Jeez, yeah al-right dude, I heard you the first time!

As for why he is the thinking woman or man's HM, I'm afraid I'm not actually allowed to tell you...

The first rule of 'thinking wo/man's club', is you do NOT talk about thinking wo/man's club.
The second rule is... er... eeerily identical to the first..

Shhh- you ain't seen me right. ”

Like your thinking there.

jp761

26-07-2014

You did that's good your hearing is firing well anyway

Yes it's very exclusive

But i don't dislike Pav anyway unfortunately his time in the house has been fuc*** up by outside factors so far.

jp761

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by eva_prior:
“stop spoiling the fun for us Pav appreciators doin a bit of appreciating

but out - its private.....only 'lil' pavlovas allowed in...its a club of exclusivity which only thinking wo/men will understand....without needing an explanation.”

I'm sure

Cats_Eyes

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“Pav was proved to be more popular than Steven - they are reeling from shock because they were all stupid enough to believe the garbage that Jale and her crew fed into the group. Serves them right.”

Try again with the right people next time.

Blondie X

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by jp761:
“You did that's good your hearing is firing well anyway Yes it's very exclusive But i don't dislike Pav anyway unfortunately his time in the house has been fuc*** up by outside factors so far.”

BIB is the truth in it. We will now have no idea whether Pav could have been a great HM or not because BB's stupid interference has stitched him up.

Virgil Tracy

26-07-2014

I guess it's Pavlovian ...

Cats_Eyes

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by dialectic:
“She chose to isolate herself. She is criticizing Pav for doing this , when he is anything but choosing to segregate himself. Also, Pav is not complaining, rather he is almost having to beg to be in their group again. It's sad to see. No offense but as she is your fave, I believe you only will see things that show her in a good-light, unfortunately.”

Just as you will only see her in a bad-light. ( unfortunately )

dialectic

26-07-2014

Originally Posted by Cats_Eyes:
“Just as you will only see her in a bad-light. ( unfortunately )”

If this thread still pertains to the clip in the OP, I would say, in this circumstance, she has shown herself in a bad light.

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