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Ashleigh is now showing a lot of maturity
Cats_Eyes
26-07-2014
As another post said on a different thread,after earlier being a sulky girl and sounding more like her young age she has,particularly since the week she was given the power,gone up a great deal in my estimation.

The choices she had to make were based on sound reasoning and were valid. It is unfortunate that she,Chris and Mark were swayed by the ex Housmates comments with regards to Zoe and Pav because what they said was based on pure bitterness and spite and had no foundation at all. But of course Ashleigh,Chris and Mark would have no reason to think that what was said would not be true.

And I hope she makes it to the final.
dialectic
26-07-2014
Originally Posted by Cats_Eyes:
“As another post said on a different thread,after earlier being a sulky girl and sounding more like her young age she has,particularly since the week she was given the power,gone up a great deal in my estimation.

The choices she had to make were based on sound reasoning and were valid. It is unfortunate that she,Chris and Mark were swayed by the ex Housmates comments with regards to Zoe and Pav because what they said was based on pure bitterness and spite and had no foundation at all. But of course Ashleigh,Chris and Mark would have no reason to think that what was said would not be true.

And I hope she makes it to the final.”

They have lived with Pav and Zoe but Danielle and Matthew have not, so they have plenty enough familiarity with Pav and Zoe to make a better judgement themselves. That's what I think anyway.
Cats_Eyes
26-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“They have lived with Pav and Zoe but Danielle and Matthew have not, so they have plenty enough familiarity with Pav and Zoe to make a better judgement themselves. That's what I think anyway.”

Exactly of what I said in the first place so you tell me what these two have based what they said on. And with regards to the others living with them you seem to forget that all three ( particularly Mark ) has continued to say that they though Zoe was great - until the ex HM's said what they said.

I have no axe to grind here - if fact personally I cannot stand Zoe - I am simply making an observation.
stray
26-07-2014
she has definitely shown more maturity this last week, and deserves a place in the final. I'd guess being in the BB house, they must feel very vulnerable, and feel like they'd need eyes in the backs of their heads to know what's really going on....so the advent of having Danielle & co giving their opinions on the newbies would have felt momentous to them....very hard to ignore those 'eyes' which have seen everything.
It's a pity though, especially for Pav. Poor guy hasn't been given a chance.
polli
26-07-2014
It's a shame they paid heed to the ex hms ,but in a way it made sure Steve went ,so not all bad news .
Pav just needs to up his game a bit . I suspect his idea of being *a ladies man* involves just sitting around watching them though, rather than getting in there and engaging them in conversation .
Zoe will be fine as she has a firm fan base and a bubbly persona .
dialectic
26-07-2014
Originally Posted by Cats_Eyes:
“Exactly of what I said in the first place so you tell me what these two have based what they said on. And with regards to the others living with them you seem to forget that all three ( particularly Mark ) has continued to say that they though Zoe was great - until the ex HM's said what they said.

I have no axe to grind here - if fact personally I cannot stand Zoe - I am simply making an observation.”

I don't know if I understand your post. How would I know what they base their bias on? It could be based on their VTs mixed in with a dollop of resentment. As for the rest, of course they should have no beef with Zoe (or Pav) she's been friendly with them all. Mark has been on really good terms with her again, since she got cheers.
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