Ok so the house has fewer house mates and because Chris and Ashleigh now have to interact with Helen they are getting abuse for been two faced.

I like Chris so might be biased but it don't see Chris as been two faced but just keeping the peace...


What do you think?

Of course they have to interact with her and there's nothing wrong with a little bit of schmoozing, especially before nominations. But the way he was going on about her in the diary room, makes me wonder if he's cracking up. He still ended up being nominated anyway. If he'd just stuck to what he was doing, he'd be 100% safe from eviction on friday but he's not.

Chris's greatest crime is knowing how it feels to be an outsider but none the less taking pleasure in isolating Pav and making him feel unwelcome.

Not nice...

Other housemates have been called bullies on here for exhibiting this type of behaviour...

I like Chris, he's my second favourite, but that's a good point.

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Pav has isolated himself, Chris & the rest of the HMs have not.
None of the HMs trust Pav, and what I have seen past few days I don't blame them. Pav is his own worse enemy.
Winston was right about one thing ... Next thing Pav will do is pull the sympathy card, and this is just what he's done.

I've gone right off him, he's lost all perspective the last few days

Really good points.

I agree, Pav knows exactly what he's doing. As do all the housemates.

.... Chris has no reason to support him...Why should he?... Pav called him two-faced on few occasions...

I still like Chris.

Very much like Helen, he's finding his way in a house where the dynamics are changing, and trying to find his comfort zone. Both of them seem uncomfortable with change, and don't always manage it well. I don't think he's adapted his diary room broadcasts, for his current situation, in the best possible way, which can make him seem more towards 2-face than witty. He was clearly un-nerved by the 3 newbies coming into the house so late, but I think he'll redeem himself re the Pav situation, because at heart he's a pretty decent guy.

So did Helen but that hasn't stopped Chris from becoming Helen's #1 cheer leader.

AT NO TIME has he isolated Pav! what you on about? If anything he has tried to make him feel more at ease, and helped him integrate (putting his own personal feelings aside) so as not to hurt Pav's feelings. What you watching????

Fair point... I was referring to previous post and to the opinion Chris should support Pav... And simply stated he has no reason for doing so...

As for him and Helen ... I don't like that either...

I haven't a clue what these ppl are watching unless they have access to a secret 24/7 live feed

On last night's episode in a 1 to 1 conversation in the bedroom Chris explained the reason he isn't friendly towards Pav is because he is more interested in building on his existing friendships. Or "fledgling friendships" as he put it.

Earlier that episode he also described Pav as a thorn in his side.

In yesterday's episode, shortly after Pav was saved from eviction, Chris described Pav as "a prick" in a conversation with Ash. They both shared a snigger to this.

This is what I am watching.....................

This is why Chris's fan base has crumbled and he no longer stands a chance of winning.

Pav is a thorn in every HMs side... None of them trust him at all, none of the HMs are ignoring him either. Pav has isolated himself from the rest of the HMs not the other way around.

Pav has pulled out the sympathy card just as Winston predicted and some of the viewers are now falling for it.

Pav is a PRICK, and Chris is right about that.

He seemed ok first few weeks, gone off him now since he started bitching with Ashleigh

No, they have an agenda against Chris....and the sheep, who take everything at face value & are unable to think for themselves - are following.

Unfortunately, It's as simple as that. Watch this space, there will be many, many more anti Chris threads.

The original team have gone through a lot together- it is human nature to stick together & resent newcomers. Especially, when BB is stirring with outside influences

Chris did say that Pav is him, at week 2....

I can't remember Jale or Chris bleeting about their social exclusion, in the DR.


Pav has been shown, in several clips, jumping around with the Cool kids.

Whatever possessed him to apply for BB ....He doesn't have the stamina - he is missing his parents & siblings, after one week.

Pav chooses not to talk to people, he just listens and chooses not to contribute while the HM get blamed for it. It is amazing that people fall for his sympathy card when the HM are doing nothing. Almost every HM's has told him just to be himself. And yes Pav is a bit of a prick.

I agree.

It's not Chris' fault if Helen has suddenly become st helen and has even some of the public sucked in.

Did you feel the same when Chris was playing with himself for the first couple of weeks? That he brought it upon himself?

I went off Chris a few weeks ago now, but, still, if I was told that some newbies were entering and that one of them would find it hard to integrate into the group, I would've put money on Chris being the one person in there that would, at the very least, accommodate them, given his own experience at the start and my assumption that he at least had some kindness and understanding.

Instead, he's among those treating him the worst.

What's that thing they say about the bullied becoming the bully?

He did ??????


Pav is not being bullied by anyone!!! Obviously you have no idea what it feels like to be bullied *shakes her head*
I was bullied through out my school years, physically, emotionally and mentally, so I know when I see someone being bullied and this is not it.
Pav has isolated himself, no one has been nasty to his face, ALL the HMs have encouraged him to join in but all he does is just sit back watch and never contribute to any conversations.
I ask myself why did he ever apply to go into BB in the first place.

He's pulled the sympathy card out just like Winston predicted he would during the shopping task & some of the viewers including you have fallen for it *shakes her head again*

Spot on!

you're deluded if you think that snake hasn't been two faced