If this is aimed at me I'm going to break my 'don't engage with inter-series grudge holders rule' and say this; I clearly said in my post that she was bratty and catty and that she should apologise to Christopher. What more, exactly, are you looking for?

Her age is brought up far, far more rarely than Helen's past is, by the way.

It is always being brought up on BBBOTS by her supporters, including Emma Willis and the various 'experts'

Yes what's your point. At times for her age 18 she does show maturity imo. For example just recen the highlight show lastnight showed that. Her and Christopher when she was talking about relationships.

I asked a simple question to that poster though i'll ask you too then , were you exactly the same person at 18 and at 27 which his Helen's age. I think it's fair to say most people are not. That was my point on that , that's it.

She is 18 years old. Is there an unwritten DS rule where it's not allowed to mention the fact?

Me too. It was like two siblings having a daft argument.

She's starting to get a bit gobby since she's become bum chums with Helen. Thinks she can start raising her voice because if it.

She better watch herself or else.

lol Really you're very rare then. You were as mature at 18 in all areas as you were at 27. Ok then.

So what if she is 18, she is an adult same as Helen and the rest in there. I dont know many 18yr olds walking around with a stupid teddy bear in their hands, ffs and people say shes clever, yeah ok.

It reminds me of siblings snapping at each other, Mark's probably right in the sense that she probably snapped at him because they are close, but she did act like a child and it should be Ashleigh who goes to Christopher to apologise.

I thought that Christopher handled that very well which doesn't surprise me because he often quietly stands up for himself.
The pair of them have probably forgotten all about it by now, but, I do hope that Ashleigh apologised.

Or else she will end up on the naughty step

Yes i was actually, some of us have to grow up quickly, we are not all allowed to be a child forever.

Christopher seems like a likeable guy but he's awkward and sometimes puts his foot in it.In some ways, he's this year's Charlie Travers. This must get pretty frustrating, being shut up in a small space for 8weeks, especially when you're worried about not knowing what's gonna happen in this task and he's going on an on about it. I think I would've snapped a bit.
Or maybe she does have the painters in.

It was not actually aimed at you tbf, you were just the first one to mention her age in the thread so far. And btw If I hold a grudge it is for something entirely different than you imagine...but that's another story which I have no intention of going into.

Do you have some reason to believe that holding a teddy bear makes you less intelligent?

Ok well many people change in many ways between 18 and 27. The vast majority i'd say. But fair enough ok you didn't then.

I'm 27 soon and still cluddle and go to bed with my soft dog, called Molly.

Are those statements, or questions?

I fail to see how having a teddy bear somehow is an indication of how clever someone is.

We are always the same 'person' at any age. A better question would be -would I have been more excused for my behavior at 18 then I was at 27- the answer is NO , not where I came from. At 18 I was an adult and expected to give up childish ways and not fall back on childish excuses. It stood me well

yes i do.

Oh and btw i dont let Helens behaviour before she went into the house bother me, i judge them the way they are in the house, what they done before they went into the house is their own business.

Whatever you want them to be.

OK then; what about the fact that the post that mentioned her age - saying, for the record that her age shows in this kind of behaviour - also said that she was bratty and catty and should apologise to Christopher. Why ignore the salient points of the same post?

There's no-one in there that I don't like that I talk very much about. The odd comment only. What I find so strange are the posters (not you) who incessantly post about nothing other than the person they dislike so strongly. What's that about?

I wonder if it was Helen that kicked off at Christopher Ashliegh fans would still be saying it's just cause she's stressed over the task?