With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot
I want a BB 2014 like a BB1 Am I wierd?
Originally Posted by vikesuk:
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
But who would bother taking part?
Actually it would be interesting to see if it would have better viewing figures - but then it couldn't be called Big Brother and there are no doubt copyright infringements which would make the whole thing unworkable. Shame.
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“I want a private island in the Caribbean.
Is this letters to Santa?”
“I want a private island in the Caribbean.
Is this letters to Santa?”
OK - we'll hold it on my private island and have Mark - he likes islands
Originally Posted by TheManWhoLaughs:
“But who would bother taking part?”
“But who would bother taking part?”
I'm just pished off with this crap on TV I guess........Ch5 have ham-fisted the thing. I find I'm a celebrity more fun now which I thought I'd never say.
It's art imitiating life imitating art, or something like that. BB was not the first reality tv programme but it was the first that gripped the viewing public. Others took it and transformed it ever so gradually into scripted reality like TOWIE and Geordie Shore etc. and now the original, to match the success of its offensive progeny, has to ape what previously aped it. All a bit unavoidable.
But yeah, I'd love a BB1-type REALLY back to basics Big Brother.
But yeah, I'd love a BB1-type REALLY back to basics Big Brother.
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“It's art imitiating life imitating art, or something like that. BB was not the first reality tv programme but it was the first that gripped the viewing public. Others took it and transformed it ever so gradually into scripted reality like TOWIE and Geordie Shore etc. and now the original, to match the success of its offensive progeny, has to ape what previously aped it. All a bit unavoidable.
But yeah, I'd love a BB1-type REALLY back to basics Big Brother.”
“It's art imitiating life imitating art, or something like that. BB was not the first reality tv programme but it was the first that gripped the viewing public. Others took it and transformed it ever so gradually into scripted reality like TOWIE and Geordie Shore etc. and now the original, to match the success of its offensive progeny, has to ape what previously aped it. All a bit unavoidable.
But yeah, I'd love a BB1-type REALLY back to basics Big Brother.”
Every year a few people say that yet every year the show moves farther away from the original model.
Maybe the majority of the current viewers wouldn't want to watch a version of the show that has no outside influence/producer meddling/Elstree chanting etc
Even when it was over on C4, the show that had the worst ratings was the boring one with all the 'nice' people in it.
Times change - we're in an entirely different world now to 15 years ago.
Even if you could come to a deal with Endemol to make a BB1-style show would you risk your own money commissioning it? If, for instance, you won a hundred million on the Lottery and could afford it, I mean. I'm not sure I'd be all that confident that there are enough people who want the same as we obviously do.
I'm old enough to remember reading in the paper about this weird Dutch TV show where they locked some people in a house and filmed them 24 hours a day and thinking WHAT??!! What made it (as it turned out) compulsive viewing was the nomination/voting process, which is exactly that part of the show they've mucked about with to such devastating effect.
I'm old enough to remember reading in the paper about this weird Dutch TV show where they locked some people in a house and filmed them 24 hours a day and thinking WHAT??!! What made it (as it turned out) compulsive viewing was the nomination/voting process, which is exactly that part of the show they've mucked about with to such devastating effect.
Dont we all! That's when it was at its best.
However, unfortunately they're no longer going to get authentic contestants who want to go in simply for the experience and without the superficial expectations. Those days are gone. Plus, the producers want drama, fights, romances etc. Even davina said that, looking back, she thought BB1 was quite boring overall.
However, unfortunately they're no longer going to get authentic contestants who want to go in simply for the experience and without the superficial expectations. Those days are gone. Plus, the producers want drama, fights, romances etc. Even davina said that, looking back, she thought BB1 was quite boring overall.
Originally Posted by TheManWhoLaughs:
“But who would bother taking part?”
“But who would bother taking part?”
I expect there's be a fair number of people, but more importantly, no-one who is a desperate fame hungry moron, hopefully
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Every year a few people say that yet every year the show moves farther away from the original model.
Maybe the majority of the current viewers wouldn't want to watch a version of the show that has no outside influence/producer meddling/Elstree chanting etc”
“Every year a few people say that yet every year the show moves farther away from the original model.
Maybe the majority of the current viewers wouldn't want to watch a version of the show that has no outside influence/producer meddling/Elstree chanting etc”
Shows like TOWIE may seem popular, but they have fewer viewers than Big Brother.
I think one of the big problems is that Endemol has tried to appear to those viewers who want continual "drama", rather than seeking a wider audience or even a refreshed one. Even many of those who like "drama" eventually sicken of the way it's manipulated and contrived.
Quote:
“Even when it was over on C4, the show that had the worst ratings was the boring one with all the 'nice' people in it.
Times change - we're in an entirely different world now to 15 years ago.”
“Even when it was over on C4, the show that had the worst ratings was the boring one with all the 'nice' people in it.
Times change - we're in an entirely different world now to 15 years ago.”
That looks like it's about bb4, but bb4 did not have the worst ratings. BB10 did. The series average number of viewers for bb4 was essentially the same as that for BBs 1, 2, 6, and 7. All of them had 4.5 - 4.7 million, and bb4 was in the middle of that range with 4.6.
Originally Posted by Theredendi:
“I expect there's be a fair number of people, but more importantly, no-one who is a desperate fame hungry moron, hopefully”
“I expect there's be a fair number of people, but more importantly, no-one who is a desperate fame hungry moron, hopefully
”
There are only a handful of BB contestants in the history of the show I wouldn't call fame-hungry (and only marginally more who aren't morons
). Anna, Alex Sibley, Victor, Makosi etc. all wanted media careers from the show but they were still great housemates.
Originally Posted by vikesuk:
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
Big Brother going back to series one probably wouldn't work. Because the show is in its fifteenth series, things are needed in order to try and keep the show alive. I still think it's great though. Series one only worked because it was something fresh that hadn't been done before.
Originally Posted by vikesuk:
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
The closest you'll get to that is probably BB Australia. There's not much Big Brother involvement in the squabbling that arises between housemates. i.e. BB isn't evil. Not from what I've seen from watching the last two series anyway.
Do BB even hold proper auditions anymore?
It seems to me that HMs seem to have agents and are picked that way or BB reads the gutter press and then seek out who they want.
It seems to me that HMs seem to have agents and are picked that way or BB reads the gutter press and then seek out who they want.
Originally Posted by vikesuk:
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
Spelling police here - it's "weird", not "wierd".
Raise your hands above your head and slowly back away from the keyboard.
They shouldnt do auditions. Get rid of the people who are desperate to be on and go searching the streets, just find some normal people. Pick a cross section of society.
Originally Posted by vikesuk:
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
not weird no... Its what I want too, i feel its gone too far, and too much has changed, it definitely needed to evolve, bit now is the time for back to basics, start again in effect.
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Times change - we're in an entirely different world now to 15 years ago.”
“Times change - we're in an entirely different world now to 15 years ago.”
Exactly, times have long changed and a 'back to basics' BB just wouldn't work. Barely anybody would watch it. It was good when it was brand new because people hadn't seen anything like it before, but even by 2004 BB were going for the 'crazy, unusual' type of people to spice it up, it's 10 years later now and present day fans aren't going to accept a hollow shell of what they are used to
Originally Posted by vikesuk:
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
“With multi-channels we could have a show like BB1 which was a social experiment-type show with people completely cut-off ..............0 contacts and they not dreaming of their next "Hello" photoshoot”
But that's already been done....It was called Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.
Originally Posted by dtorre:
“Exactly, times have long changed and a 'back to basics' BB just wouldn't work. Barely anybody would watch it. It was good when it was brand new because people hadn't seen anything like it before, but even by 2004 BB were going for the 'crazy, unusual' type of people to spice it up, it's 10 years later now and present day fans aren't going to accept a hollow shell of what they are used to”
“Exactly, times have long changed and a 'back to basics' BB just wouldn't work. Barely anybody would watch it. It was good when it was brand new because people hadn't seen anything like it before, but even by 2004 BB were going for the 'crazy, unusual' type of people to spice it up, it's 10 years later now and present day fans aren't going to accept a hollow shell of what they are used to”
But really it hasn't changed. since its move to channel 5 its just become a TOWIE clone dropping most of the Unique traits that made it Big Brother. Its lost so much of its original identity somewhere alone the way Endemol lost confidence in the show.
it started in BB4. then again in BB8 and BB10 was the final straw. Instead of them maybe accepting producers direction for the series and the choice of HM's were at fault it seemed easier to just blame the format as being "tired". Its what the producers did when the star trek franchise on TV started Failing not the fact they took the show in the wrong direction.
