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The ironical eviction of Jale
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Penny Crayon
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Helen's been just as much up Ashleighs ass recent. Asking her advice about Ash , saying she likes Ashleigh now and would like her to be in the final e.t.c They've run out of females is the main reason for all this. Chris is more up there he cries about it the other day even. How hes so happy Helen likes him now.

As for Jale she had weeks of being name called pretty badly by Helen and Ash. And then weeks of licking Helens bum. That's peoples main issue with her i think.”

Only a few people had an issue with Jale until Marlon pressed the button. Then all the Ashleigh fans panicked and Jale became a sitting target.

I'm amazed at people's short memories.
yellowlabbie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Yes, but now knocks Christopher all the time, bless him. So much for the pact when it was needed.”

Pact, ha, ha, Christopher supporters continually slagging off Ashleigh for weeks now.
jp761
31-07-2014
What part of it's a numbers game do people not get ? That's the main reason Helen and Asheligh started to lick eachothers bums. An they do not like Zoe. Helen has asked Ashleigh advice on Ash , and would love Ashleigh to be in the final.

If they want female to female chat and things now they only have each other obviously.

The letters task the other day very telling Zoe went to hug Ashleigh Helen saw that , and basically moved Zoe aside and took over.

All makes perfect sense to me.
jp761
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Only a few people had an issue with Jale until Marlon pressed the button. Then all the Ashleigh fans panicked and Jale became a sitting target.

I'm amazed at people's short memories.”

Yes because they like Asheligh a bit more than Jale obviously. For whatever reasons. No more or less to it.
Darcyprincess
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Helen's been just as much up Ashleighs ass recent. Asking her advice about Ash , saying she likes Ashleigh now and would like her to be in the final e.t.c They've run out of females is the main reason for all this. Chris is more up there he cries about it the other day even. How hes so happy Helen likes him now.

As for Jale she had weeks of being name called pretty badly by Helen and Ash. And then weeks of licking Helens bum. That's peoples main issue with her i think.”

But it was only the Ashleigh fans that had a problem with anybody being friendly with Helen and the cool gang, not the other way around. It was like anybody that got near Helen and her gang they were disliked and had to be voted out. This was the real reason that Jale went, not because she was nasty or different in any way.

But now it's ok for Ashleigh to like Helen, how does that work. I personally think that Ashleigh is exactly where she always wanted to be but Helen didn't give her the time of day so Ashleigh pretended to not like her. We have all seen a big change in Ashleigh this past two weeks since Danielle went, she has got much louder and voiced her opinion more and definitely more brattish it seems.
Penny Crayon
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Yes because they like Asheligh a bit more than Jale obviously. For whatever reasons. No more or less to it.”

I was responding to a direct post if you took the time to follow threads properly you'd see that.

Do you ever read the whole thread and link posts together?
strato222
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by *~TeePee~*:
“But viewers only wanted to save Ashleigh as they thought she'd 'stand up to Helen'. The opposite has happened, Ashleigh is now where Jale was. Yet unlike Jale she gets praised for it :S

Crazy double standards indeed!

Jale would have been a perfect winner, but we can still root for Christopher and Pav. ”

The opposite has happened? You couldn't be further from the truth. Helen has been tamed by Ashleigh and some of the other housemates. If Jale was still in there, Helen would be her usual self.
Darcyprincess
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Pact, ha, ha, Christopher supporters continually slagging off Ashleigh for weeks now. ”

Well it was ok for the Ashleigh fans when she was getting the boos from the crowd I noted. I think you will find that there are still Christopher fans that like Ashleigh, (well the ones that haven't gone off her) it's more the new Christopher fans that don't like her I would say.

By the way perhaps you would like to answer post 65.
meglosmurmurs
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Ashleigh, Christopher and Chris were all preferred to Jale. That's why she was evicted.”

Yes that was certainly the reason for my votes. Could have been different some other week but that particular week Jale was my least favourable out of the options. Mainly because she was so inconsistent. She would stubbornly grind Marlon and Chris into the ground for daring to press a button or have shouts over the wall, but then she would totally back down to people actually insulting her to her face and calling her names.

I don't really see the problem in voting someone out to save someone else either.
Everyone can vote how they want to vote, they aren't forced to vote.
jp761
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I was responding to a direct post if you took the time to follow threads properly you'd see that.

Do you ever read the whole thread and link posts together?”

No. Who does do you have time to read every single word of every post in all these threads around ? I don't.

My post to you was still relevant anyway.
jp761
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“But it was only the Ashleigh fans that had a problem with anybody being friendly with Helen and the cool gang, not the other way around. It was like anybody that got near Helen and her gang they were disliked and had to be voted out. This was the real reason that Jale went, not because she was nasty or different in any way.

But now it's ok for Ashleigh to like Helen, how does that work. I personally think that Ashleigh is exactly where she always wanted to be but Helen didn't give her the time of day so Ashleigh pretended to not like her. We have all seen a big change in Ashleigh this past two weeks since Danielle went, she has got much louder and voiced her opinion more and definitely more brattish it seems.”

Yes Jale went weeks of being called names by Helen and co , then went weeks licking there bum. As i already said.

Those two are brought together because there's no females left. They dont like Zoe. Helen has even even asked Ashleighs advice on Ash now. They are drawn together through circumstance at this stage.

Can't believe how some people aren't seeing this is all very feasible.
Javed
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Maxine_Roch:
“I'm so glad Jale left when she did it didn't even bother me that much she was sucking up to Helen I just found her extremely irritating and even more after she got evicted when she was On Dish On The Side .”

Yes me too. I liked her at first but then I realised that she is hugely patronising and very annoying. I now can't bear to hear her deep voice on the TV. Thank goodness she left.
vikesuk
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Javed:
“Yes me too. I liked her at first but then I realised that she is hugely patronising and very annoying. I now can't bear to hear her deep voice on the TV. Thank goodness she left.”

All agreed - we should stop bumping this thread for the evicted loser! She should disappear into non-entity
Javed
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“Yes that was certainly the reason for my votes. Could have been different some other week but that particular week Jale was my least favourable out of the options. Mainly because she was so inconsistent. She would stubbornly grind Marlon and Chris into the ground for daring to press a button or have shouts over the wall, but then she would totally back down to people actually insulting her to her face and calling her names.

I don't really see the problem in voting someone out to save someone else either.
Everyone can vote how they want to vote, they aren't forced to vote.”

Yes I started to dislike Jale when she revealed herself to be a complete diva over the shouts over the wall. "I am being held hostage" FFS!
Penny Crayon
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Javed:
“Yes I started to dislike Jale when she revealed herself to be a complete diva over the shouts over the wall. "I am being held hostage" FFS!”

How funny - that's around the time I started going off Chris
strato222
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“ But now it's ok for Ashleigh to like Helen, how does that work. I personally think that Ashleigh is exactly where she always wanted to be but Helen didn't give her the time of day so Ashleigh pretended to not like her.”

1. How does that work? Helen isn't likable when she's confrontational and shouting people down. Jale liked/assisted Helen when she was like this.

2. Ashleigh "pretended" not to like Helen when she was confrontational and shouting everyone down? No-one has to "pretend" not to like a person who behaves like this.
netcurtains
31-07-2014
I think Jale was evicted because she was a rude, ill mannered gobsworth,
An Thropologist
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by WhisperingGhost:
“She went because Ashleigh's supporters (myself included) thought she was the easiest target to evict (which she was as it worked). I haven't missed Jale at all and thought it was right she went when she did. We have got far more out of Ashleigh than we ever would have with Jale (who's only interesting story arc was being bullied by the nasties).”

You can't possibly know this. For all we know Jale's alleged former anger issues may have reared up and led her to punch Helen in the face. Or she could have had torrid sex with Winston or done a Vanessa Phelps style break down. Who knows what an evicted housemate may or may not have done?
strato222
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“ Helen has asked Ashleigh advice on Ash , and would love Ashleigh to be in the final.”

Not too fast. When Ashleigh was given immunity from nomination, Helen thought that everyone was only going to get one nomination rather than the usual two. Helen was confused, but obviously, she was confused because one of her nominations was going to be for Ashleigh.
jp761
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by strato222:
“Not too fast. When Ashleigh was given immunity from nomination, Helen thought that everyone was only going to get one nomination rather than the usual two. Helen was confused, but obviously, she was confused because one of her nominations was going to be for Ashleigh.”

Well maybe yes. There brough together seemingly closer just by circumstance right now though.
Caligal
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“But alas Ash is still there and the evil plan didn't work did it?”

Not then but she still nominated Steven and Ash when she had the power and Steven is gone.

Would Jale have done that? I think not.
Scrovegni
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Caligal:
“Not then but she still nominated Steven and Ash when she had the power and Steven is gone.

Would Jale have done that? I think not.”

She'd have definitely nominated Ash, she did so at every opportunity.
Pices-55
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Caligal:
“Not then but she still nominated Steven and Ash when she had the power and Steven is gone.

Would Jale have done that? I think not.”

Jale did nominate Ash And why would she nom Steven if she got on with him? I dont understand all the fuss from people who get upset with housemates because of who they nom or dont nom tbh, its up to them.
yellowlabbie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“How amusing when you were one of Kim and Jales biggest critics for being friends with Helen. Didn't you even say that you had stopped supporting Kim because she was friends with Helen? That's why you were now supporting Ashleigh.

Now Ashleigh needs girly time with Helen. That is so laughable and hypocritical after what you have said! I have heard everything now.”

Do you want her to sit in a corner all on her own like Jale did, playing the victim. There are only 8 or so hms left now it is difficult not to try and get on with them. By the way, Jale just wanted to be in the cool gang all along, she has proven this since leaving the house. She wanted to to be friends with the cool gang even thought they bullied and belittled her apparently. Now that is sad.
dialectic
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Do you want her to sit in a corner all on her own like Jale did, playing the victim. There are only 8 or so hms left now it is difficult not to try and get on with them. By the way, Jale just wanted to be in the cool gang all along, she has proven this since leaving the house. She wanted to to be friends with the cool gang even thought they bullied and belittled her apparently. Now that is sad.”

It's laughable that you can think you can raise that old chestnut of Jale 'playing the victim'. It must be inconvenient to you that that didn't play out as you expected ,so you raised the whole 'up Helen's ass' myth to replace it.

What is not surprising is that you can't see that it was Ashleigh who isolated herself, dragging Danielle with her, up to the pod (a convenient retreat for their bitching anyway) Conveniently for you this bitching is seen as her being Helen's rival.

Now Ashleigh is right up Helen's ass (how you should be phrasing it) but it is more convenient to say they are all friends together because this is what is best for Ashleigh and she's only having fun anyway.

Oh the irony of it!
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