Do you think that Celebrity Fame Academy has done enough over the last week to save the format on the BBC?

Will we see FA3?

Tez

Aaaaw, I hope so - I love this show.

Nope, in line with the changes being forced in the BBC, fame Acadamey has already been axed along with ground force and many others.

Bada-bing. There's your answer.

Fame Aacdemy will probably be only brought out if Comic Relief and celebrities are involved (wonder if Children in Need is a good enough excuse?).

in a word no

it's got nothing to do with how good/popular the show is, the government's concerns were that the BBC is showing too many programmes that are deriatives of things that are already available on commercial television. The BBC have just closed all their messageboards because it was felt they infringed on the commerical sector equivalents

sorry to sound all boring, but I work for a media IT company and we do stories on this sort of thing

Might we still see another celebrity version though?

if they are telling the truth about the voting figures yeah (down on bended knees) would hope that the Beeb would put it back on, don't know why but I think this is a tester by them to see how it went with the voting figures

Erm sorry FA has never been axed it was by offical statement shelved for a year.

Hopefully, if they are only doing it for charity, they should do it for all the tv telethons, RND and children in need, is there another? At least then there would be 2 or 3 a year!

With the announcements made this year and the way the press hounded the 'real' FA, I doubt if you would get the BBC to run it if you paid them. Also, don't forget, they're not supposed to run after 'ratings' anymore, are they?

I'd love to see another series, but I doubt if I will.

(I'll keep on hoping though.)

Steve.

I still think the Fame Academy format is superior to the Pop Idol format rather than a deriative of something already available on ITV1 (who have again lost more of their share of the audience) ironic that the DIY disease of programming started on BBC1 & was exported to the other UK channels not the other way around.

Just as that BBC1 series of people on that Scottish Island (can't remember its name) can't be compared to 'Temptation Island/I'm a Celeb/Castaway' they're related but not the same.

Pop Idol in its basic form is the 1970's New faces format re-visited.

If the BBC wanted to produce new series of 'Opp Knocks' or 'Star for a night' fair enough, but if it's not going to be about ratings at all then move the worthy but low ratings output from BBC4 to primetime BBC1

Its BROADcasting not NARROWcasting

What happened to 'Educate, Inform & Entertain'?

Tez

BBC have been told that they can't move all their 'worth' programming to BBC4, as this goes against their public service remit. Just because some people aren't interested in documentaries, doesn't mean they should be shunted to minority channels like BBC3 or BBC4

talking in basic terms the idea of FA is to find a new singer who would get a recording contract, which is the basic premise of Pop Idol. Coupled with living in a house element (which is slightly similar to Big Brother) the show looks like an identikit programming which already exist

If the BBC decide not to have another FA, could another channel buy the rights from the makers to have it?

I prefer FA to any other RTV, including BB, which I am a self confessed addict of. I watch the aussie and US versions of BB, besides ours.

they have to cut back on rating stealer shows and copycat shows shown on commercial channels in oredr to maintain the licence fee.
new formatted shows such as strickly come dancing are good for go, but shows such as FA which was invented to rival pop idol in the ratings is a nono. There are a lot of cuts that the BBC have got to make, some good some bad, but you can see the reasoning behind it. They basicaly comand a national tax for their existance and so the programming should reflect that and not trying to rival free channels.
personaly I shal miss ground force

that is a good point, I would imagine that the show could be moved over to another channel. Maybe 5.

actually seem to remember that everything was in place to run another series until all the trouble with the local council of the original academy,
and also if they can be allowed to do Come Dancing (someone please explain how that meets the requirements) why can't they be allowed to do FA.

strickly come dancing is a completely new and original format, promoting the art of dancing, its all about culture, ballroom and latin dancing is seen as something to be given a new lease of life.
FA was just another pop stars/idol/xfactor type of show. Its a copy of something covered extreamly well on commercial channels.
Using that format to promote a form of dancing that has gone out of fashion is seen as different and more worth while and inkeeping with the BBC

I see your point Mike & sadly if they follow that through I think we may end up with the test card as that's the only thing ITV1 doesn't have

What's the old line about there's no such thing as a new idea just an old one re-packaged....

I agree they diverse programming should be right across the network.

That's what broadcasting used to be about...

But if the BBC don't want it, it might end up on C5?
With Jade Goody & Marco presenting it with ex reality show rejects in a house singing.

Tez

I think this is unfair that the BBC should lose a good format.

OK, Fame Academy is loosely based on a hybrid of Pop Idol and Big Brother, but being made by Endemol you would expect some similarities to their other shows (BB).

In my eyes Fame Academy is more credible than Pop Idol, as students definitely get better through the process - learning all about the 'Fame' industry and the art of performance. In the real show (not celebrity-based) they are required to write their own songs and be able to play musical instruments etc. It seems less commercial than Pop Idol's artificial backing tracks etc. It is a better reflection of what a real Arts Academy is like.

This is the first FA ive seen and im gutted, i didnt watch the other!
I think the format is very BBC, unlike pop idol and x-factor!
If you get what i mean, i hope they do do another series celebrity or not!

I've never agreed with 'more credible' argument since David Sneddon won, who IMO was a deriative of Gareth Gates (but could play instruments)

ITV's never claimed to be worthy, just a glorified talent contest

I've always loved the FA format even if the beeb/record label always try and rig it - thats half the fun - moaning and getting wound up by their antics.

I prefer it to Pop Idol as you really get involved by watching the live streaming. I remember Ruby Wax in the last Celeb FA getting really worked up with the Beeb because they didnt show hardly any of the fun on BBC1 show. She was right - it was hilarious and the majority of viewers had no idea.

The beeb have never appreciated what a gem format they had.

I agree with you 110%!!!!

Tez

It is a shame as it much more serious and grounded than Pop Idol etc commerical rubbish.And who wants brain food ALL the time. And why not axe the really dire old twaddle of East Enders,Casualty,Holby which are so formulaic and tired it is ridiculous.Compare them, to US say The Practice currently enjoying re-run of previous series( before James Spader joined ) on ITV3..this is so excellent and intelligent and beautifully performed, why can't BBC commission such quality when the TV Licence is hardly peanuts and they have so resources at fingertips. Some nights on BBC is almost all gardening or all DIY and history lessons...
What happened to days of such excellence as GBH or Brideshead or Melissa,David Potter,Jewel in the Crown and such gloroius drama,when last a Pialliakof. (oops sp..? )

I love good documentaires but heck one needs some good dramas and this field is dry.... Judge John Deed and "Famliy" mush are so boring...and not everyone wants pure saccarine and honey drenched warm fuzzy family stuff.

I so disagree with you..there was excellent talent in FA, and who voted for David Sneddon if not you the public..???? Like now you will all vote for Kim who sounds like any number of Girls Aloud and Kylie pop budgies, instead of Edith who has real potential in more serious rock.... public tastes..boo...