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Christopher's not happy with the focus group task
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amyntas
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by SpiritedAway:
“Christopher is going to ruin himself. I understand being upset about the editing. But if he looks at the big picture, he should be able to see that the commentary on him was pretty mild (like his personality). There were housemates who received much worse feedback.”

Over the last few days ...

- he's been told he's a toy who's picked up and dropped
- sits on the fence
- is being used for a fake relationship (and to dump said user)
- spoke up for himself for the first time yesterday

... I'd be pretty pissed
jp761
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Ashleigh was nice to him”

Exactly her brief strop has gone again every ones entitled to them occasionally some females even claim there entitled to more than men are too...

Don't i know it too lol
BillionBets
31-07-2014
Imagine this guy in the Diary Room! I bet he drives the producers up the wall with his never-ending wittering. Probably goes on for hours at a time which is why we only see him in tasks or at night with Mark.


yellowlabbie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by jp761:
“Exactly her brief strop has gone again every ones entitled to them occasionally some females even claim there entitled to more than men are too...

Don't i know it too lol”

I can sympathise with Ashleigh because I can be pretty stroppy too
SpiritedAway
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by amyntas:
“Over the last few days ...

- he's been told he's a toy who's picked up and dropped
- sits on the fence
- is being used for a fake relationship (and to dump said user)
- spoke up for himself for the first time yesterday

... I'd be pretty pissed ”

Everyone in the house has called Christopher a fence sitter and he has admitted to recognizing that quality within himself. Speaking up for himself just yesterday isn't accurate of course, but considering bullet number 2, it shouldn't be a giant leap for Christopher to fathom that the public would perceive him in that way.

The remaining points are in relation to Mark. Christopher doesn't consider himself a toy (because he's too naive) but he has said to Ashleigh and to BB in the DR that Mark will call him over and then shoo him away, so he is aware of that asoect if their relationship. The third point is something that he wouldn't necessarily realize, and all of the aforementioned reflects more harshly on Mark and paints Christopher as a bit of a victim (and muggish too, I'll admit). Still, it's really not as bad as he's making it out to be unless Christopher is upset on *Mark's* behalf and in that case, yes, he's a total mug and thensome.
scout2006
31-07-2014
It's not surprising that he's unhappy about the comments. I would have been more surprised if he'd just shrugged them off.
amyntas
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by SpiritedAway:
“Everyone in the house has called Christopher a fence sitter and he has admitted to recognizing that quality within himself. Speaking up for himself just yesterday isn't accurate of course, but considering bullet number 2, it shouldn't be a giant leap for Christopher to fathom that the public would perceive him in that way.

The remaining points are in relation to Mark. Christopher doesn't consider himself a toy (because he's too naive) but he has said to Ashleigh and to BB in the DR that Mark will call him over and then shoo him away, so he is aware of that asoect if their relationship. The third point is something that he wouldn't necessarily realize, and all of the aforementioned reflects more harshly on Mark and paints Christopher as a bit of a victim (and muggish too, I'll admit). Still, it's really not as bad as he's making it out to be unless Christopher is upset on *Mark's* behalf and in that case, yes, he's a total mug and thensome.”

I appreciate your response ....

You may have seen the YouTube clip of the puppet therapy session with him, Mark and Helen (a few weeks ago) - Mark digs that he 'sits on the fence' and his puppet goes limp in exasperation - he knows this is what he's labeled (by Mark primarily) but I think (I may be wrong) he would rather be seen as a conciliator.

But he does take stands - I think of all the boys in the house he may have taken the most stands - for example against Pauline and her unfair favouritism during her rein as Power Housemate is just one example that springs to mind. Against Toya when she was caught out bitching about him, against Helen when she stroped over her lump of coal. There are more which I think you would acknowledge?

His certainly no mug when it comes to Mark - as you pointed out, his diary room the other day about trust and being taken into confidence and whether he would want anything to progress with that type of personality shows that he's happy the way things are in the house - with their back and forth - but wouldn't be in the real world.

As I said, finding out you're being portrayed as doormat is gonna get the pulse racing
Enidan
31-07-2014
Little does he realise his edit is close to winning him 100k.
bulldog rosie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“Is Christopher genuine or is he deceiving us? ”

How shocking that you think Christopher might be playing the sympathy.vote..........Surely not!!! People aren't that stupid!
Darcyprincess
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I can sympathise with Ashleigh because I can be pretty stroppy too”

Yes well noted labbie
SpiritedAway
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by amyntas:
“As I said, finding out you're being portrayed as doormat is gonna get the pulse racing ”

All good points. And I agree with them on the whole. I just find it a little contrived that Christopher gets criticized for not standing up for himself and then throws an ostentatious fit. Usually, when Chris elects to voice his opinions and take a stand it's done in a diplomatic way. That's the Christopher I've come to know despite any editing slants. Christopher's reaction was a little more dramatized than I would have anticipated and in light of others like Mark getting reemed and Zoe (also according to the latest video boring Ash got it pretty bad tool) it came across as poor form IMO.

I suspect Christopher wanted to show us that he's no pushover. But it didn't ring organic to me.
yellowlabbie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Yes well noted labbie”

Just being honest DP, it's a pity more on here arn't
Darcyprincess
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by amyntas:
“I appreciate your response ....

You may have seen the YouTube clip of the puppet therapy session with him, Mark and Helen (a few weeks ago) - Mark digs that he 'sits on the fence' and his puppet goes limp in exasperation - he knows this is what he's labeled (by Mark primarily) but I think (I may be wrong) he would rather be seen as a conciliator.

But he does take stands - I think of all the boys in the house he may have taken the most stands - for example against Pauline and her unfair favouritism during her rein as Power Housemate is just one example that springs to mind. Against Toya when she was caught out bitching about him, against Helen when she stroped over her lump of coal. There are more which I think you would acknowledge?

His certainly no mug when it comes to Mark - as you pointed out, his diary room the other day about trust and being taken into confidence and whether he would want anything to progress with that type of personality shows that he's happy the way things are in the house - with their back and forth - but wouldn't be in the real world.

As I said, finding out you're being portrayed as doormat is gonna get the pulse racing ”

Well said, I agree with all this. I think that Christopher does stand up for himself and he is very good and resolving and talking through matters but he is obviously upset about what he heard because there were no real positives but just put downs about him being a walk over and a doormat. Nobody wants to hear that. He was also probably really upset about hearing so many negatives about Mark and being told to dump him because he was a bad influence on him.
bulldog rosie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“Well said, I agree with all this. I think that Christopher does stand up for himself and he is very good and resolving and talking through matters but he is obviously upset about what he heard because there were no real positives but just put downs about him being a walk over and a doormat. Nobody wants to hear that. He was also probably really upset about hearing so many negatives about Mark and being told to dump him because he was a bad influence on him.”

Yes Emma said he showed balls in his little spat with Ashleigh............He walked off and sulked like a two year old girl on his bed ............yeah real ballsy.
yellowlabbie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by bulldog rosie:
“Yes Emma said he showed balls in his little spat with Ashleigh............He walked off and sulked like a two year old girl on his bed ............yeah real ballsy. ”

Terrified of an 18 year old woman
bulldog rosie
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Terrified of an 18 year old woman”

And he's now favourite to win .........
ruffle
31-07-2014
Originally Posted by bookclub10:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl-zR5mxkKs”

Christopher is so write we do not have a clue about what goes on in that house
Just what bb wants use to no to me it seems pointless having a forum when all we can talk about is what we think is happening even when we see something we can't be sure
It is fact the hole show is being turned into a pantamine
We can go to see them at christmas time
quasimoron
31-07-2014
After watching that spat with Ashleigh Christopher actually escalated it by his reaction which was just as irritable and sulky as Ashleighs. Both of them acted like prats there, two siblings arguing. Ashleigh said in her Vt she had a temper and she was not joking lol.

However Christopher has stood up for himself in the house and is no doormat. He is a strong character and has been a very good HM. I like him very much. They have become a real little family in there tiffs and all lol.
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