Chris needs to be voted out just for that Sin. The public didnt take to Jale kissing helen's butt. Ashliegh has made the peace with helen but in NO WAY kisses arse.

Chris, on the other hand, is so schwarmy with his grovelling , arsekissing I think its embarrassing to watch.

Its like the nerd at school trying to get the attention of the "in Crowd" by buttering them up.

I want chris out because he's a disappointment of a hm. His overt promises at drama and Funny one liners in diary room were okay BUT its a FAIL !! time to go. Leave in zoe to continue to let down walls and Pav to start being himself when chris the bully is gone

At least he has funny one liners, the rest have no sense of humour between them.

Agree, don't care at all if Chris fancies Ashleigh or not, it's his disgusting treatment of Pav and sucking up to Helen that has put me right off him, and he was one of my favourites.

It's because he fancies her!!!!!!!!111!!!!one!!!!! What a creepy pervert!!!! And while we're on, he defended Christopher to Mark, telling Mark that Christopher does help him a lot and that he should lay off him. OMGZWTF!!!!!! Chris fancies Christopher!!!! How inappropriate!!! What a creepy perverted bully!!!!!

mark got slammed in that task, chris got mildly slammed. Chris putting the screws to Mark, trying to make HIMSELF look better to the public for defending christopher.

so sinister , and chris accused Pav of having a gameplan?

They all seem to get on OK with Helen or if you prefer they are all sucking up to Helen. Ashleigh and Helen have been inseparable over the past two shows. Chris and Christopher were siting outside saying how fond they had become of her. Ash, Mark and Winston never had a problem with her in the first place. Not so sure about Pav and Zoe but I am not seeing any particular problem there either.

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I wouldn't care less if he was 100 yrs. of age and they did a Steverly quite frankly. But those two points are serious deal- breakers for me.

Chris won me back over again tonight. (Yes, I'm fickle) He called Ashli's strop right, supported and stuck up for Christopher and called us the creepy ones in the diary room at the end. And it's kinda funny when she starts gushing about Helen in a "he's at it again" kind of way. I know he's been a git to Pav lately but he left him alone tonight and the outside info about how he's being perceived is the wake up call he needed to snap out of his temporary insanity.

yep, chris has woken up... Video - Chris to Ashleigh "I wanna be your mate forever" ch5 clip

Haha, yes, I spoke way too soon. He's got it as bad as ever!

Chris seems to admire strong women and wants their approval. I wonder if he has quite a strong mother?

The house has been ruled by Helen from the start. She won the wars against her opposition by shouting and the opposition were voted out as she was untouchable. It was not pleasant TV watching.

Chris and all the others have had to pull the line for their sanity and Helen to be fair has calmed somewhat down.

he's lost his mind completely, his rant about Victorian values, **** me Chris, get a grip

Sanity at last!

On DS you can't just be friends, or FRIENDLY with Helen. Unless you're slagging her off at every turn, you're "up her arse" or "kissing her arse" or "sucking up". Exchanging a civil word with Helen is grounds for eviction now? *sighs*

I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic ...................................

disgusting treatment of Pav? discreetly approaching him on something then challenging his own opinion about it then apologising? how is that disgusting? 'disgusting' would've been to out him in front of everybody then stubbornly stick to an opinion without entertaining other possibilities THAT would be disgusting

sucking up to Helen? How is he 'sucking up'? He had an impression of her and what he 'thought' she was like, it was challenged and he's seen the good in her now and acknowledges it

Notice the theme here? see how he likes to be proved wrong and lets in flexibility regarding his ideas about people?

That's a DAMN GOOD quality

I swear half the people on this forum are either under 15 or in daycare

I'd love to know how many of these 'creepy Chris'ers would've come to that conclusion on their own

Agree........they are coming towards the end, they all have changed to some degree........Helen (though I still don't like or trust her) HAS shown a softer side, and perhaps this is what the anti-Helen HMs are gravitating towards.......

civil word isnt grovelling and pretend crying

I've been stalked by a Chris type. I see the signs and the look in the eyes. Many of us have had experience with "chris' types. ashleigh is so young she likely hasnt had the experience in real life yet

also -
i think you missed the various footage of Chris running from person to person telling everyone about how Pav is 'staring' at ashleigh.

Chris isn't a 'type' it's not fair to project your experiences on him

And re. going person to person, he was seeing if anyone else noticed it, he doesn't strike me as an irrational person but does seem the kind of guy who would investigate to see if he was being irrational, that starts with asking others opinion, he got their opinions and realised he 'was' being irrational and took his apology to Pav, what's so bad about that?

chris is a type. Short chubby and unattractive, not successful in life or with Women. Has a stilted way of speaking and often Lectures, lords it over others trying to make themselves seem 'better' then others.

Often quiet

"Short chubby and unattractive, not successful in life or with Women"

maybe

Stalker/rapist/murderer

no

Do you still burn witches?

you commented that chris wasnt a type, I made my point by laying out the criteria for the category that chris is in.

I think most women who have been around for a few decades have met a chris

Why when you get on with Helen is it called arse-kissing? Never understood that. Never seen anyone arse kiss her either, other than Ashleigh going on about what a wonderful woman she was in week 2. Jale had it out with Helen like she had it out with Chris - and adult way of dealing with things to pave the way for peace...but that's not the same as arse-kissing.

I've seen people befrined her, forgive her, sort their problems out with her - never arse-kissing though.

I do think Helen has calmed down and learned a lot about herself in that house - and the housemates can see this pleasant change and get on with her. So can we just watch them getting along without all this "arse kissing" business???

Jeez Louise, you scare me (really)

I think someone else can take it from here

To think you'd dump so much on a stranger from a few edited highlights on a tv show is disturbing

No I can't go on

I'm sorry for your bad experiences I really am but to put 2 and 2 together and get 12..

Speechless

All this proves is that he says whatever he thinks people want to hear. When everyone was against Pav he was the biggest slater but when it became clear that he wasn't as hated on the outside as they all thought, Chris was there to say he wasn't too bad. The same with Helen. While it was expedient to bitch about Helen he did but as soon as he saw a chink of sunshine for her he decided it was time to say something good about her. He is a creep, as in he creeps when necessary and bitches when necessary. Get him out of there!