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Nico and Sienna - HO
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olivej
01-08-2014
something has been niggling me since Nico turned up so I just thought I would throw it out there and ask

we have been led to believe the Nico was adopted when she was born but if this were the case wouldnt her adoptive mother be looking for her?

Nico has been looking for her mother and has now found her but surely she wouldnt be allowed to just move in with her?

The law would clearly be on the side of the adoptive mother who is legally her mother

I was wondering if maybe the adoption wasnt legal - Patrick maybe knew the woman before he gave her Nico, has been maybe paying her to look after Nico all this time..........

Thoughts?
C_E
01-08-2014
I thought she'd been in a care home?? Her back story is a bit confusing to be honest. The website said she had been in care homes and so did she but then where does the adoptive mother come into it, Unless the adoption only recently happened?
olivej
01-08-2014
her backstory is confusing

so who was the woman that Leela and Sienna went to see at the address Leela found........

I thought that was NIco's adoptive mother

I might be wrong tho............
Baban
01-08-2014
The mother we saw recently was a foster mother, so she clearly doesn't come into it.

She told Nancy she lived with her dying sister etc but I think that was just a sob story to get Nancy to feel sorry for her.

The only reason I'm confused is because Patrick said he gave her away to a family who adopted her when she was born. Where are they now? Unless Nico was telling the truth to Nancy I don't know where her adoptive family is.
Baban
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by olivej:
“her backstory is confusing

so who was the woman that Leela and Sienna went to see at the address Leela found........

I thought that was NIco's adoptive mother

I might be wrong tho............”

No that was a foster mother I think, not entirely sure
blue_cheese
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by Baban:
“No that was a foster mother I think, not entirely sure”

Yea your right its her foster mum which is temporary care. Where as adoptive parent you are their parent not someone just to look after them for a while.
olivej
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by Baban:
“No that was a foster mother I think, not entirely sure”

ah, ok, that changes things then if she was a foster mother - not sure about the law and fostering

Im assuming Nico can go live with her mother is she wishes then
C_E
01-08-2014
This what her Hollyoaks profile says :

Introducing Nico: intelligent, funny, but with quite a dark streak. As the estranged daughter of Sienna Blake, it’s easy to see where she developed her manipulative streak. From growing up being passed from care home to care home, she’s matured way beyond her years and has developed into a distant and distrustful young girl with a mean right hook.

Nico found her way to Hollyoaks village to find her estranged mother, but developing a relationship with her from scratch could be harder than she’d expected.

Maturity, brains and a killer sense of humour are the things that make Nico a great friend… or they would, if she’d actually let you into her life. Deep down, Nico just wants to be loved and to be a part of a real family, but she’s so terrified of rejection that she instinctively just pushes people way. Nico is deeply troubled, and there’s no way she’ll let anything go without a fight, but really she’s just looking for a place in the world.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/h...-swales-dawson
olivej
01-08-2014
but the care home part doesnt tie up with what we have seen and heard on screen that is where my confusion is

she clearly wasnt in a care home when Sienna found her - unless care homes look like regular homes in regular streets nowadays
GeekInfected
01-08-2014
I just don't get how they're all chummy like its normal
QuidditchBabe
01-08-2014
Well that E4 official descritption makes her sound a lot more interesting.

I read a theory that Patrick never actually had Nico in the system, he paid a woman/friend who wanted to have a baby to take care of Nico so there would be no official record of adoption so Sienna couldn't trace her. Which would have made a lot more sense for someone of Patrick's character. But I guess then we'd have a loving adoptive mother on the sidelines too.
hsellors
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by olivej:
“but the care home part doesnt tie up with what we have seen and heard on screen that is where my confusion is

she clearly wasnt in a care home when Sienna found her - unless care homes look like regular homes in regular streets nowadays ”

Children can go into foster homes and then be fostered out, to make space and give the child some sense of normality. I imagine that childrens homes have limited spaces so they rely on foster parents.

However I got the impression the woman adopted Nico due to the way Patrick was over bearing with her, if she was a foster parents surely you'd report him...it is HO though. Anything nonsensical is possible!
dubgaz
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by GeekInfected:
“I just don't get how they're all chummy like its normal”

The usual Hollyoaks personality transplant. One day you are sweet and loving, the next you are a murderous psychopath.
lulu g
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by QuidditchBabe:
“Well that E4 official descritption makes her sound a lot more interesting.

I read a theory that Patrick never actually had Nico in the system, he paid a woman/friend who wanted to have a baby to take care of Nico so there would be no official record of adoption so Sienna couldn't trace her. Which would have made a lot more sense for someone of Patrick's character. But I guess then we'd have a loving adoptive mother on the sidelines too.”

It makes her sound like the new Phoebe.

I've also been confused by the whole adoption/care home inconsistency. Also, why did they bother to give her three different names? First she was called Sophie, then Caroline, and now Nico. I get that she would quite likely have had two names, but why bother to having her called Caroline at all? And why does she have a boy's name?
olivej
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by hsellors:
“Children can go into foster homes and then be fostered out, to make space and give the child some sense of normality. I imagine that childrens homes have limited spaces so they rely on foster parents.

However I got the impression the woman adopted Nico due to the way Patrick was over bearing with her, if she was a foster parents surely you'd report him...it is HO though. Anything nonsensical is possible!”

I honestly thought Nico had been adopted until someone said otherwise and a care home was mentioned

fostering would make a lot more sense seeing as the law is different with a foster parent and if she was in the foster care system surely her foster mother would have reported the grandfather of the child she was fostering to the social services

the whole Nico SL just doesnt add up
olivej
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“It makes her sound like the new Phoebe.

I've also been confused by the whole adoption/care home inconsistency. Also, why did they bother to give her three different names? First she was called Sophie, then Caroline, and now Nico. I get that she would quite likely have had two names, but why bother to having her called Caroline at all? And why does she have a boy's name?”

Sophie was her birth name, maybe the adoption/carehome/fostering people changed it to Caroline (no idea why - perhaps at the insistance of Patrick so Sienna couldnt find her ) and I am assuming Nico is the name Sophie/Caroline gave herself so she could go and find her mum - she may have taken on a "new" name just incase Sienna didnt want to know her although is this is the case why is she still being called Nico - why not go back to Caroline or Sophie
lulu g
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by olivej:
“Sophie was her birth name, maybe the adoption/carehome/fostering people changed it to Caroline (no idea why - perhaps at the insistance of Patrick so Sienna couldnt find her ) and I am assuming Nico is the name Sophie/Caroline gave herself so she could go and find her mum - she may have taken on a "new" name just incase Sienna didnt want to know her although is this is the case why is she still being called Nico - why not go back to Caroline or Sophie ”

I've no idea. I would have thought giving her two names would have been sufficient. Very little about this storyline makes much sense
olivej
01-08-2014
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I've no idea. I would have thought giving her two names would have been sufficient. Very little about this storyline makes much sense”

its a shame really, if the writers actually thought about this SL (and many others for that matter) they could be really really good SL's

sadly they all have so many loopholes in them that we are all sitting here thinking
QuidditchBabe
01-08-2014
Maybe Patrick and Denise made up the name Caroline so if Sienna went researching, she wouldn't be able to find Nico.
superstargirl81
02-08-2014
I have two theories (although I could be wrong)

The first is that she was never adopted, like the description says she spent her time in care homes and that lady had nothing to do with the real Nico but was paid/threatened by Patrick to saying she had her and that she was called Caroline to put Sienna off the scent. Nico ran away from whatever care home she was in and Sienna just hasn't reported it. Whether the girl playing sports was anything to do with that woman i'm not sure.

The second theory is that, that woman was Nico's foster mum and she created the Caroline persona to put Sienna off the scent but after Sienna went to the house, Nico ran off to find her and they just haven't told her foster mum that they have found her.
GoldenGoddess
02-08-2014
None of it makes sense

When Sienna and Leela went to the mum's house (when Patrick was there) when the girls left you saw the upstairs curtains twitch as if Nico was really there, so not in a care home
D.DotA
02-08-2014
Why is everyone so confused??? It's really simple. Denise adopted Nico and when Sienna and Leela tracked her down Patrick made her keep quiet. When Sienna and Leela left Nico was the one watching when the curtains moved. After that Nico ran away to track down Sienna that's how she knew what she looked like cause she alread saw her at her house. When she got to Hollyoaks she started to find out more information to find her best way in my befriending Dodger. Obviously she wasn't going to tell Dodger and Nancy who she really was so lied to them.

The only thing that hasn't been addressed is why Denise hasn't come to collect Nico after she's started to live with Sienna but that's probably down to poor writing.

It's rather simple. There's no need for theories as it's been made quiet clear.
lulu g
03-08-2014
Originally Posted by D.DotA:
“Why is everyone so confused??? It's really simple. Denise adopted Nico and when Sienna and Leela tracked her down Patrick made her keep quiet. When Sienna and Leela left Nico was the one watching when the curtains moved. After that Nico ran away to track down Sienna that's how she knew what she looked like cause she alread saw her at her house. When she got to Hollyoaks she started to find out more information to find her best way in my befriending Dodger. Obviously she wasn't going to tell Dodger and Nancy who she really was so lied to them.

The only thing that hasn't been addressed is why Denise hasn't come to collect Nico after she's started to live with Sienna but that's probably down to poor writing.

It's rather simple. There's no need for theories as it's been made quiet clear.”

Except why they are now talking about her having lived in a care home.
D.DotA
03-08-2014
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Except why they are now talking about her having lived in a care home.”

She probably lived in a care home until Denise adopted her.
RondeEE
03-08-2014
Originally Posted by D.DotA:
“She probably lived in a care home until Denise adopted her.”

Denise is just her foster mother
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