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Somewhat ironic if Helen is the only female in the final with her pass
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DUNDEEBOY
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by gary1234:
“Helen will not make the final, BB know that if she did she would be the first or second out and would be instantly forgotten. They'll want her on BBOTS for a week and so I think they will manufacture her eviction.

2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th are the worst places to finish. You get a 5 minute interview and then all that anyone is interested in is the winner.

Helen is a foul mouthed drunken nasty piece of work. She is Channel 5 gold and they will want their pound of flesh.

Helen is not that young, she is not going to be a model, a WAG or a TV presenter. She has achieved minor celebrity status but unlike Zoe does not have a talent she can sell. To leave behind a business and a 10 year olld son I would imagine that she is being paid quite well and Channel 5 have plans for her.”

The only way Helen isn't in the final night is if she comes last in the vote to win when they lose someone in the vote to win a couple of nights before

This isn't going to happen, also next week she immune so it's not happening

Only two weeks left as well, not sure how your theory will work or is just wishful thinking

There are also six in the final not five
mitacond
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by crisis3:
“She doesn't count as a housemate. She has had an easy ride with no nominations and no eviction night experience nothing of what BB is about. She just takes up space in a bed and adds nothing else. At least football coaches will be happy as she isn't about potentially ruining their key players concentration.”

I agree she has not had the stress the other hm's have had when being nominated she cannot be nominated so therefore has been able to given full rein to her emotions.
mitacond
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“The only way Helen isn't in the final night is if she comes last in the vote to win when they lose someone in the vote to win a couple of nights before

This isn't going to happen, also next week she immune so it's not happening

Only two weeks left as well, not sure how your theory will work or is just wishful thinking

There are also six in the final not five”

I agree her ticket is for the final.
academia
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by crisis3:
“She doesn't count as a housemate. She has had an easy ride with no nominations and no eviction night experience nothing of what BB is about. She just takes up space in a bed and adds nothing else. At least football coaches will be happy as she isn't about potentially ruining their key players concentration.”

That's a good point about her not counting as a real HM. Not for her the scramble for allies, the worrying about how she comes across, the constant tension of evictioms...she just sits there, queening it over the others who have to work at it.
gary1234
02-08-2014
You get to increase the prize pot this week. How about selling her immunity?
Enidan
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by crisis3:
“She doesn't count as a housemate. She has had an easy ride with no nominations and no eviction night experience nothing of what BB is about. She just takes up space in a bed and adds nothing else. At least football coaches will be happy as she isn't about potentially ruining their key players concentration.”

I agree, she doesn't count as a housemate due to her pass. It's a shame that it will cost people money on final night to get rid of her as well as the real housemates when she shouldn't be there in the first place.
yohinnchild
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by dtorre:
“And the series would have died on it's arse without her like last year's did when Sallie left first. People like Helen and Sallie can cause conflict out of nothing and a show like BB desperately needs that to stay interesting”

Last years series grew better without Sallie and actually gave the other HMs a chance to shine. She would've wrecked last year as she was just argumentative for the sake of it; fine as a 1 week wonder, but any longer would've been majorly detrimental to the series.

Helen would've gone week 1 without her pass and maybe she should've done too, Tamara picked up her noms and was ousted. It would've been interesting to see just how things would've played out without Queen muck in the house. It would've changed things majorly and may even have meant more of her gang going early
yellowlabbie
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by Enidan:
“I agree, she doesn't count as a housemate due to her pass. It's a shame that it will cost people money on final night to get rid of her as well as the real housemates when she shouldn't be there in the first place.”

and it will be a vote to save then I suspect, so harder to get rid of her.
Trumbles
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by dtorre:
“And the series would have died on it's arse without her like last year's did when Sallie left first. People like Helen and Sallie can cause conflict out of nothing and a show like BB desperately needs that to stay interesting”

You may not have not have liked BB14 but it's the most popular Ch 5 series on here going by this poll and had the best viewing figures of the four civilian series (inc this one to date). BB15 is in danger of dropping below BB12's viewing average to be the worst - and rightly so.

Originally Posted by dtorre:
“But we already do know it because Helen has stayed all the way through. Who else causes conflict? The show would've been showmance central with producers pushing Steve/Kim and then Christopher/Mark if Helen wasn't there to cause arguments and rifts everyday

Remember last year's shambles after Sallie left, there was so little happening they resorted to pushing a Dexter/Charlie showmance every single night? They were some of the most boring episodes ever. That could have been this year too but luckily we dodged that bullet”

The producers show showmances because they choose to, not because they have to. HMs are often surprised at how much fun & games stuff etc never makes it to telly.

The problem of not having enough mindless arguments to blot out excruciating showmances should never exist while there's an off switch.
Enidan
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“and it will be a vote to save then I suspect, so harder to get rid of her.”

Oh yes of course. Let's wait and see, I seriously don't think she will be saved at all, but for me she doesn't count as a real housemate.
gary1234
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by Enidan:
“I agree, she doesn't count as a housemate due to her pass. It's a shame that it will cost people money on final night to get rid of her as well as the real housemates when she shouldn't be there in the first place.”

She has gone to every party, had a very easy ride, never had to pack, received her letter and by her own admittance had a very easy ride.

She has not been shown up or had to eat anything nasty In fact the only thing she did not go to was the Christmas Party which I thought she handled rather well. Neither Christopher or Channel 5 will make that mistake again.

She must have a wonderful agent
Enidan
02-08-2014
Originally Posted by gary1234:
“She has gone to every party, had a very easy ride, never had to pack, received her letter and by her own admittance had a very easy ride.

She has not been shown up or had to eat anything nasty In fact the only thing she did not go to was the Christmas Party which I thought she handled rather well. Neither Christopher or Channel 5 will make that mistake again.

She must have a wonderful agent”

She's with Max Clifford's new agency.
orangeballoon
02-08-2014
the housemates dressing up as each other actually worked quite well...

perhaps for the final week they should make the people left dress up as housemates who have left (as the choice will be mostly women, or be a bald steven and er, anyone remember mathew?! )

christopher i am sure would enjoy it as he has twice so far liked make up
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