Daily Mail readers are notorious for jumping on bandwagons.

The comment Zoe was shown to have made happened at the beginning of last Friday's eviction/highlights show yet she ended up receiving the least votes to be evicted that day in a 4 way vote and got a pretty good crowd reception.

Fast forward to this week after a bit of rabble rousing saying people should be outraged by what she said and she is public enemy number one being evicted and booed.

It's echoes when the DM told people they should be outraged with Russell Brand & Jonathan Ross over Sachsgate (which was admittedly a pretty shitty thing to do) yet nobody seemed bothered with when it actually happened a week earlier.

Too generalized imo.

I disliked Zoe as a HG before the Tesco comment and in all actuality that comment had little to do with why i wanted her out of the house which was more to do with her being extremely over the top that had a fakeness to it like you see with some pageant type girls where it's so over the topic and seems fake, and as a result that rubbed me the wrong way and impacted my viewing experience negatively. [I also observed this sentiment with others even before the Tesco comment]

I read the Dailymail at times and don't jump on any bandwagons, i only check it out because it seems to focus on some of the more aberrant behavior out there, which interests me as i'm somewhat fascinated by aberrant behavior. [as i'm sure people read it for various reason]

I think including "some", ie, "some Daily Mail readers"/"some viewers" would go a long way.

Same with the creepy Chris hysteria . People should get a brain of their own and stop being sheep as Ashleigh"s boyfriend pointed out.

It's no comparison.

People reacted negatively to creepy Chris the minute he was shown being creepy.

Whereas Zoe was saved first with the least votes & cheers last week AFTER her supposed heinous crime (comment) was committed.

You're missing the point of my OP.

It's a bit too generalised to say 'the same' because both situations are completely different.

I disliked Zoe before the comment and disliked her a little more after it. People are people at the end of the day and I have no respect for anybody who has elitist thoughts or thinks that they are above anyone else or that their life holds more value than someone else's.

I strongly disagree with the idea that Chris is a creep and feel sorry for some people who can't look beyond this strange obsession with the fact that Chris is a man and Ashleigh is a woman and therefore they can't be around each other. Perhaps the world has just become way too focused on sex or something. I'm only a young'un myself.. but would find absolutely nothing wrong with being friends with an older person, male or female, in the Big Brother house and I'd also attempt to learn from them as a person if I could.. because humility in such situations is, in my opinion, an admirable trait.

EDIT: Just to give an answer relevant to the OP.. I agree to the extent that I believe people are much too easily led. Whether or not we want to admit it or not, it is human nature to follow the crowd. It's easy to believe what we want to believe or what we are told by others to believe, because that is the way of least conflict. Heck, the majority of the developed world have a world view that is significantly fabricated.

Wasn't it towards the end of last Friday's show, not the beginning?
Pretty sure it was closer to the time when the voting closed.
You're just peeved that Chris didn't go, right?

Very well said and completely agree.

Almost got me to tear up there as i'm such a strong/immense believer in male/Female friendships and humility, so... that kind of got me deep down.

You know that 'take it with a pinch of salt' phrase?

Well if I had to 'read' the Daily Mail I would only ever be able to do so whilst in the depths of a salt mine.

it is not entirely the same but not entirely different either .But you would probably not accept that there was an element of jumping on the bandwagon where the ridiculing of Chris was concerned. Maybe there wasn"t. Who knows?

It's not about people being outraged at one comment.
I wasn't offended, I doubt many were offended, and she doesn't have to apologise.
It's just what that comment amongst other comments says about her as a person and the way she thinks.

Since that comment we've had a week of other comments, her overall general presentation of herself, and some just don't happen to be keen on her.

That one comment can be explained away that she meant something else, repackaged to mean something different, spun in a multitude of different ways, she could even apologise for it if she wanted to. But the point is that it wasn't about that one comment alone, it was about how she comes across in general.

Zoe's snobby attitude is not a heinous crime, if she was up against Helen she could have stayed, but she was up against Pav who has offended no-one and Chris who has built up a lot of support and had one terrible week

I don't understand why people are so convinced she only got evicted over one comment. Obviously I can only speak for myself but that wasn't the reason I wanted her out. That comment was for me just one thing in a mass of other things that made me a non Zoe fan and I'm sure others would say the same.

I think it's a pretty gross generalization to say BB viewers jump on bandwagons. Some do, sure and you'll find that with people who aren't BB viewers as well. Personally, I'm perfectly capable of making up my own mind on HMs, which is why I don't support the forum's princess this year. Many love Ashleigh, I just find her irritating and manipulative. (yes, I said it )

Back when I first started posting I was an Aaron fan. I was delighted he won. He was, I believe, forum fave that year but for me, he was just the most interesting HM. Then came Mark A, Deana and Adam. They were the group on forum top that year, hardly surprising when you saw who else was in the house. I disliked the others based on the sheer amount of bitching. That was BB's worst year for me. Last year I didn't support the forum fave. I had mixed views on all the HM's and my fave was Dan. Not a popular choice last year. And this year I've decided to root for Pav, for no other reason than I have disliked all the HMs this year, just some more than others, and this close to the final I felt I had to pick a winner so I picked the least offensive one to my mind. (I could go on about all the other series, but as I've only been posting on the forum since the days of BB12 I'll just mention those.

It seems a tad OTT to accuse people ALL BB viewers of jumping on bandwagons just because they may change their minds about HMs. I'd say that's human nature.

By the way, I read the Times

PS, I apologise if this sounded garbled, but it's only just gone 7 and I'm only on my first cup of coffee of the day. Not a good time for Dani to try and talk sense

Simple as that really.
Voters felt that they'd seen enough good things about Chris and Pav to warrant keeping them in, and when it came to Zoe people just weren't that keen on her.
The voters thought she was full of shit. Now she's out of the game.

Rubbish!

Nobody seemed to take offense to her as a person and how she came across when she was saved first with the least votes to evict & cheered barely a week ago last Friday.

But all that changed when the rabble rousers told their sheep they should be offended by Zoe saying she wants to burn Tesco workers

The only other comment people seemed to take offense to came days after the 'get evil Tesco bashing Zoe out' campaign started, and was when SHE WAS TRYING TO HELP THEM WIN THE TASK by innocently saying that maybe she may be a bit further up the line because of her interesting stories... in the most interesting housemate poll.
And this little thing gave the sheep an opportunity to not feel so sheeplike and say 'see I knew she was stuck up' in their little sheepy minds

You could even tell that Emma was embarrassed that she had to tell Zoe she was voted out because of a single comment that she obviously didn't mean maliciously. Her only other reasoning was Ashleigh's excuse that Zoe was too happy all the time, which she later conceded to Rylan was a crock of sh*t considering people have been complaining that this series has been too miserable & nasty.

The truth is Zoe was one of the nicest most unoffensive people in BB this year who didn't seem to have a bad bone in her body, didn't bitch about anyone, didn't pick on anyone or talk smack behind peoples backs like most of the others do... yet because we were told we should be offended by an out of context at best, misguided at worst comment she made she was vilified evicted & booed.

I feel sheepish just being a witness to it all

I thought she made the Tesco comment when discussing the fallout Adter Stevens eviction and it was shown on Saturdays highlights??

It was light in the garden near the beginning of the highlights.


Yes I am peeved Chris didn't go

But don't worry... I have a plan B

NOBODY ESCAPES ULTROS FOR LONG !!!

Chris is toast next week

It was on last Fridays highlights/eviction show from the day before

it wasnt down to the tesco comment on the whole i dont feel. Pav had the sympahty vote so only way to keep chris safe was voting for zoe. The tesco comment just gave an extra reason & maybe a few extra votes.
Pav & zoe fans targeted him so in a way he did well to survive against it really.
We had no choice to choose zoe , pav wasnt going anywhere

You're right, but it was said right at the end, after the voting lines had closed

No it wasn't. You could clearly see when the clip was replayed to Zoe last night that it was in full daylight

What plan? - create another 200 anti-chris threads
He should be quaking in his flip flops then with fear

Oh no!! Please don't unleash ULTROS???

I am both a DM reader and a BB viewer and I don't jump on bandwagons. I think for myself and feel sorry for Zoe.

Yes, I think it's obvious Zoe was targeted to save Chris ... I just think it's funny that people can't just come right out and admit that instead of using feeble excuses like they think Zoe meant offense with her Tesco comment.. or that she deserved to go because she was a bad person.

It was the same when Jale was targeted to save Ashleigh. Peoples feeble excuse then was that Jale was sucking up to Helen... yet now Chris & Ashleigh are sucking up to Helen far more than Jale ever did yet no one seems to mind

It was discussed on The DS live show thread for 25 July at 21.56, BB May not have shown it chronologically, but it was aired after Zoe had been saved - more producer manipulation