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Anyone starting to loathe the Carters?
I know this might be an unpopular opinion on here, but I'm starting to find the clan quite irritating. When they first came into the show, there were a breath of fresh air, I could barely miss an episode. Now, they seem to be growing in number and in virtually every episode. One episode the other week was entirely on the planning of Linda's party... where's my gritty, interesting soap gone?
With Mick, Shirley, Linda, Johnny, Nancy, Lee, Babe, Stan, Dean, Tosh, Tina and now Sylvie... that's 12 characters. I think that's about a quarter of the cast. The Brannings had about 10-11 at one point, and they really started to grate on me. Mick is great, the swimming story is different, I just wish he stopped being so forgiving all the time. You tried to drown me? That's alright love. You're dealing drugs? Let me throw you a party! Linda's quite a good foil for Sharon, and Nancy I think has potential but is mainly used for comedic relief sadly. Johnny Sausage needs to cheer up a bit and Stan is a joy to watch. I was starting to like Shirley, but the Phil affair feels like they're backpedalling her character, and she'll be back to downing vodka on Arthur's Bench. Dean was interesting to watch when he reappeared, but he hasn't been given much chance to shine. However Lee, paired with (sexiest female nominee?) Whitney is a snoozefest, and I couldn't care less for Tina and Tosh and their baby dramas... maybe they could borrow Bert or Ernie Moon for a while? (As baby swaps are so successful in the square) Aunt Babe I'm not sure of yet, but the Square is badly needing a villain so I'll give her a chance. I don't hate them, I just find them overkill. But they're a massive improvement over the much loved Hartman family. Hopefully, the show will let us have some space from the family, as I feel other characters, like the Masoods, Lola and Jay are getting sidelined over the endless Carter stories. |
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Lee is fairly weak for me and not sexy at all.
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I don't have a problem with them but they need to stop expanding the Carters. It does feel like the Carters are dominating EE too much but I don't think the family needs to be expanded. Tina, Lee, Dean and Aunt Babe aren't needed IMO. I like the rest of the Carters.
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I'm going off them too. You're not alone!
As you have already said, there are slightly too many and they are taking over. Mick and Linda should have just had one child, Johnny. Lee and Nancy are not required. Aunt Babe, although an interesting character, isn't really needed, her storylines could have been taken up by Mo Harris. Tina and Tosh are OK but I think they should explore the domestic abuse story rather than the baby one. Stan is good but he should have more scenes with Cora, Patrick and the Cokers, he would be better used away from the family. I hope Sylvie is temporary just to fill the faps in their back story. 1-2 months at the most. A few weeks would be even better. Don't think Dean really needed to return either. |
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I don't loathe them, but like what the previous post said, there is too many of them. If the family expansion had happened over a period of years rather than weeks/months it wouldn't have been so overwhelming.
Does seem strange that Shirley was in it all those years and nothing of her family was ever mentioned. Just Carly and Dean(o), and Jimbo of course. Now we have Stan, the dreadful Babe, annoying Tina, army lad Lee, gay sausage (sorry Jonny) wannabe hardman Mick, teabag through bag Linda, and Dean(o) Shirley's childish son and not forgetting football kit Nancy. As I said, I don't loathe them, but a tad annoying because of the sheer scale of them. |
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I don't loathe them and I haven't grown tired of them...yet. What I do feel is that the cracks have begun to show. In other words it has become obvious who the cream of the crop are.
Long post to follow... Mick - No fault of the actor but the character has been a bit of drip. I think Danny Dyer deserves better because the material so far has not served him particularly well. I don't love or hate Mick. Right now he's vanilla. He owes more than a tip of the hat to a certain DS hate figure named Alfie Moon if I'm being honest. Linda - A complete success story in my opinion. Possibly my favourite new character in about a decade. A classic EastEnders landlady in the making. Linda, like Angie, Sharon, Pat, Peggy and Chrissie before her can mix camp humour with proper drama. Johnny - I quite liked him until recently. I must admit I'm tired of all his whining and that miserable expression he sports every time he appears. He needs a kick up the backside storyline wise. The actor isn't the best and relies far too heavily on face pulling which he really overdoes. It would work if he wasn't such a miserable sod and lightened up. Nancy - Completely and utterly underused. She just hangs around The Vic all day making wise cracks. Despite this she's got loads of potential and could be something special. She's very likable in my opinion. Lee - I have no problem with the actor but I think Lee is sort of not needed. His first stint wasn't very well put together. He came and went and made no difference really. I couldn't have cared less if he returned. This time around I feel he's being dragged down by Whitney. She goes through this exact same storyline every year. I think they're struggling with what to do with Lee. Tina - I despise her. She's the worst Carter and worst new character to be introduced in years. She and Tosh are mismatched, their storyline is dull and both characters are annoying and unlikable. The overgrown child act is not a good look for anyone. It won't happen any time soon but I think both characters should be culled. They drag the Carters and the show down by placing too much focus on them. Stan - Amazing actor who brings to life a great old school type character with plenty of layers. He's usually the highlight of whatever scene he's in. Along with Linda he's my favourite addition to the show in recent years. Aunt Babe - We were given conflicting descriptions of this character so it was hard to pin her down at first. Personally I think she's off her rocker and won't last beyond Christmas. I can't say I love or hate her. She's there for this Sylvie storyline and that's it as far as I can tell. I certainly wouldn't miss her. Dean - We knew Dean before any of the Carters arrived. He would not have been top of my list of returning characters and I doubt we'd have seen him again if not for Shirley's continued presence. This time around I'm not really fussed about him either. I'm not crazy about characters who have chips on their shoulders even if he does have good reason. He just comes across as pathetic, arrogant and creepy. I think he's there to look bad so Shirley looks good and he won't last. Shirley - DTC's favourite creation. Undoubtedly a good actress, I just cannot take to the character. I can tolerate her in small doses but I don't see her as leading lady material and I'd like to get through one episode without her being seen or mentioned. Enough is enough of this awful woman. I actually don't think her being Mick's mother is a good idea and will ruin the Carter family dynamic, sometihng she and Tina never really fit into. They work better without Shirley/Dean and Tina/Tosh in my opinion. Lady Di - Love her. The true star of the show. |
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I'm liking Linda a lot these days now they've massively toned her down. She was unbearable in the beginning. And Stan to, he's settled in well and it helps that's he's basically just a background character. Nancy and Mick are brilliant and have been since day one.
Johnny is awful. Lee is beyond shit, awful actor playing the same old boring ladies man crap we've seen and fail so many times before and I won't even begin on Tina except that I'm rooting for Tosh to give her a beating or ten. Detest her. And Aunt Babe. I'm really struggling to see the point in her. |
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I'm going off them too. You're not alone!
As you have already said, there are slightly too many and they are taking over. Mick and Linda should have just had one child, Johnny. Lee and Nancy are not required. Aunt Babe, although an interesting character, isn't really needed, her storylines could have been taken up by Mo Harris. Tina and Tosh are OK but I think they should explore the domestic abuse story rather than the baby one. Stan is good but he should have more scenes with Cora, Patrick and the Cokers, he would be better used away from the family. I hope Sylvie is temporary just to fill the faps in their back story. 1-2 months at the most. A few weeks would be even better. Don't think Dean really needed to return either. ![]() I do agree, they are expanding at an alarming rate. More hits than misses though. |
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I liked Tina to begin with but now she just comes across as an overgrown child, she has featured in almost every story line from Aleks/Roxy, Billy, Carol..not to mention her own with Tosh, and Aunt Babe. Tina has had a LOT of screentime, almost too much. I'm not huge on Tosh but I think she has potential, Lee wasn't really needed tbh.
I love Shirley, she is a multi-layered, flawed character and I always find her interesting to watch. Linda Henry is one of the best actresses on the show and even when Shirley is revealing her worst, Linda H manages to make her sympathetic imo. I like her dry humour, sarcasm and I actually think she fits well into the Carter dynamic. Tim West and Linda Henry have really good onscreen chemistry. My only problem is when the writers keep putting Shirley in the gutter, she is so much better when she is off the booze and isn't bitter. I hope they move her character on from this behaviour. Shirley is definitely a leading lady contender. I also like Mick, Aunt Babe and Stan. Tim W and Annette B are real coups for EastEnders and Danny Dyer has actually surprised me as Mick. Linda is OK, just in small doses. Ido like Dean but I'm not sure on this 'pity' act that he has going on and this Linda/Dean s/l is not appealing to me at all. Overall I like most of them, mainly Shirley, Babe, Mick, Nancy and Stan and my least faves are still decent characters and by no means the worst in the show. I'm also looking forward to the arrival of Sylvie. |
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Amazing: Mick, Linda, Johnny, Nancy, Stan, Lady Di.
Have potential: Lee, Dean, Shirley, Aunt Babe. No: Tina No need to overthink it, really. |
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Mick can be dull but there is no doubt that he is the glue that holds this family together.
Linda...neurotic and shallow, but at times I quite like her. Nancy...potentially the best of the kids but is so underused it's hard to be sure. Johnny...the whiner. Never seems satisfied. Lee...regular bloke who's got his head screwed on. Shirley...the black sheep. She is the most interesting of them all. There is nothing lovable about her but I can't help gunning for her to earn her place at the heart of the family. Right now it feels like she's still on the outside looking in. Tina should have been a backround character, it was a big mistake giving her so much air time. Stan is a gem of a character, just love him. Babe is just now coming into her own. She's been a slow burner but I'm loving her this week. Sylvie is the missing part of the jigsaw, can't wait to meet her. |
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They are starting to get shoved in our face a bit
And the touchy/feely/happy/clappy stuff is very weird/uncomfortable/cringeworthy to watch |
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tbh i still have not warmed yo them i start gettin migranes when i watch them apart from mick i absoultly loathe linda and lee also nance just a silly family imo
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Trouble is, if they do this family to death because 'we' as viewers like them so much, we'll get bored, switch off and then the axe falls on the weakest of the family.
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I don't mind any of them to be honest. Some I like more than others and some I wouldn't miss but they're not the worst! I wouldn't care if Babe, Dean and Tina went though. They all have a lot going on outside of their family which makes it's a lot better I think. Mick and Ian, Linda and Sharon, lee and Whitney . Just wish they'd do something with Nancy, terribly underused and my fave out of the 3 kids
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I don't loathe them but yes they are starting to grate on me now too. I'm not really sure what happened but I'm finding myself starting to dread episodes were they will feature heavily. I was bored stiff watching yet another one of their big Family meals this week.
If it was just Mick, Linda, Johnny, Nancy, Stan and Shirley I could take them but the inclusion of: Lee - bad actor Tina - who really is getting on my nerves Tosh - unlikeable Dean - not needed at this point Babe - wtf is she all about? I don't even think the writers know. This whole 'we love Babe' thing is really leaving me baffled. However because its Annette Badland I am happy to overlook her faults. is what is turning me off. I'm actually dreading more of them coming in. Its bad enough now. I tell you what else is annoying me. They have all been estranged for over a decade yet are now acting like the closest family that ever existed. Sorry but its all just bullshit! lol Their development hasn't been good at all which doesn't bode well for the future. |
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They have turned me off. I used to be a diehard fan, now I never tune in (did have the omnibus on in the background last night whilst I was doing somenting else.
The worst offender (in my opinion) is the Loathsome Linda. Her overracting, stupid faces that she pulls, screeching, sticking her nose in everywhere... I despise her character. Dislike Tina, Tosh, Babe (such a cringy name), Dean desperately trying to pull off a badboy image, Whiney Johnny and I couldn't care less about Sylvie. I don't mine Mick the drip, or Shirley, I've not seen much of Stan so can't comment, Nancy seems ok. |
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Dean is creeping me out at the moment and his whining about Shirley is getting boring now.
Nancy is definitely underused... I hope they can come up with a good storyline for her sometime soon. Lee... does not really add anything to the show... I wanted more from the whole PTSD storyline. unless there is more to come... As a whole, the family are a good addition to the show, but I do think there has been way too much of them too soon |
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They have turned me off. I used to be a diehard fan, now I never tune in (did have the omnibus on in the background last night whilst I was doing somenting else.
The worst offender (in my opinion) is the Loathsome Linda. Her overracting, stupid faces that she pulls, screeching, sticking her nose in everywhere... I despise her character. Dislike Tina, Tosh, Babe (such a cringy name), Dean desperately trying to pull off a badboy image, Whiney Johnny and I couldn't care less about Sylvie. I don't mine Mick the drip, or Linda, I've not seen much of Stan so can't comment, Nancy seems ok.
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Just wondering, you said that Linda is loathsome at the top bit at the end you say you don't mind her? Lol
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There does seem to be the arrival of Sylvie has put the cat amongst the pigeons.
Keep Mick - the glue that binds them all together Linda - natural landlady been missing for quite a while Johnny - a lot more to come. The Ben business should be interesting Stan - strangely likeable Stan, plus his bad side should be fun Deano - seems to have worked. The reluctant part of the family Get rid Nancy - Too stage school. Lee - boring ladies man Tina - a forty year old dressing like a teenage Tosh - want to see some lesbo violence Aunt Babe - all piss and wind At the bottom lower lower lower Shirley - the worst mother in Christendom. The show would get better if she was removed |
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Apparently even Beyonce wants a divorce. 😱
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I don't watch EE much anymore, but I read the spoilers and all I read recently is about another new carter. To the point I have no idea who is who anymore and how they are all related!
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Whoops - I meant that I don't mind Shirley, silly me, well spotted Ell Ren
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I switched off back in January once I heard about 10 new Carter's coming in (11 in total with Shirley - and now it's up to 12 with this new one being introduced!
)I didn't like DTC's work beforehand, so 10 new Carter's was the last straw. Don't understand why they couldn't keep it at Shirley, Tina, Mick, Nancy, Johnny and Linda. Six is more than enough, and it was a nice set up. I'm sure he said in an interview that the Carter's wouldn't dominate; yet, they're all I ever read about when I'm looking at soap spoilers
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