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When is Under The Dome airing?
Think I spotted Eddie Cahill at the end of the trailer, a face that will be very familiar to C5 viewers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlMVVdw1a8w |
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In response to its resounding popularity, C4 have not only extended the current series of Million Pound Drop from 8 to 12 episodes but are also currently set to air a 2 hour episode of it on Friday 5th September (from 8-10pm).
Also on C4, Educating The East End begins on Thursday 4th September at 9pm. |
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In response to its resounding popularity, C4 have not only extended the current series of Million Pound Drop from 8 to 12 episodes but are also currently set to air a 2 hour episode of it on Friday 5th September (from 8-10pm).
Also on C4, Educating The East End begins on Thursday 4th September at 9pm. ![]() It was a fantastic programme. I'm sure it will launch with 3m, it depends whether it will maintain the audience though. Educating Essex did OK for Ch4, but Yorkshire did very well, I wonder if it will continue to the same success or fall back to Ed Essex figures. |
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It's this documentary:
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep1we...s-teleshopping Also Piers Morgan's Life Stories back on Friday 5th. Thought that wasn't supposed to be back until next year? Love of Dogs and Chasing Shadows both start Thursday 4th September. England v Norway on Wednesday 3rd (against the launch of Our Zoo and the return of Grand Designs). In regard to Tuesday's, ITV really is the laziest broadcaster. A programme about teleshopping really is taking the piss. Frankly they deserve all they get. Its won't be long before everything after 7:30pm is below 1m. |
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Honestly do they ever learn? From Thursday being strong, to Friday's a complete flop at 9pm. Dump Life Stories its a complete waste of space.
In regard to Tuesday's, ITV really is the laziest broadcaster. A programme about teleshopping really is taking the piss. Frankly they deserve all they get. Its won't be long before everything after 7:30pm is below 1m. |
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Honestly do they ever learn? From Thursday being strong, to Friday's a complete flop at 9pm. Dump Life Stories its a complete waste of space.
In regard to Tuesday's, ITV really is the laziest broadcaster. A programme about teleshopping really is taking the piss. Frankly they deserve all they get. Its won't be long before everything after 7:30pm is below 1m. |
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Solid start for CBB. I think New Tricks is the big story here though, that's a really poor start for it. Especially as it's back on Mondays which are its best night usually. The last Monday launch 2 years ago got an overnight of 7.8m, and 3 years ago it was 8.7m, also both in the Summer.
Maybe ITV shouldn't be so scared to air drama against it this Autumn after all. New tricks has been tacticaly scheduled by the BBC to prop up a difficult slot for them and to damage Itv's drama ratings in the process. The beeb knows that all they have to do is reschedule it back to Tuesdays next year and the viewers will flock. |
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New tricks damaged Long Lost Family by a million viewers, so it is still very powerful in denting the opposition. It is likely that New tricks will dent whatever Itv drama it faces by a million or so. So if a drama on Itv had normally got about 5million against normal competition, it will probably get 4m against New tricks.
New tricks has been tacticaly scheduled by the BBC to prop up a difficult slot for them and to damage Itv's drama ratings in the process. The beeb knows that all they have to do is reschedule it back to Tuesdays next year and the viewers will flock. |
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New tricks damaged Long Lost Family by a million viewers, so it is still very powerful in denting the opposition. It is likely that New tricks will dent whatever Itv drama it faces by a million or so. So if a drama on Itv had normally got about 5million against normal competition, it will probably get 4m against New tricks.
New tricks has been tacticaly scheduled by the BBC to prop up a difficult slot for them and to damage Itv's drama ratings in the process. The beeb knows that all they have to do is reschedule it back to Tuesdays next year and the viewers will flock. Interesting times ahead as you've been saying how many huge hits BBC1 have and how they've completely blocked off a key slot for ITV, yet that doesn't seem to be the case given how NT underperformed last night. |
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There's no guarantee viewers will flock. All shows have a natural shelf life and eventually they start fading. Perhaps it's New Tricks's time.
The bbc dont look at the short term, they look at the long term. They know New tricks is a few series away from ending. So why give it the best slots possible? There's no point. May as well air it in a tricky Monday 9pm Itv loyal slot, dent Itv in it, accept the lower ratings for New tricks but still solid ratings, and then allow new shows to become successful in the piss easy Tuesday 9pm slot. It's very clever scheduling from the Beeb and the lower New tricks rating for last night are kind of expected by some people at the BBC Broadcasting House. |
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Only Connect's first BBC Two series starts Monday 1st September, 8.30pm. ITV's Chasing Shadows starts on Thursday 4th at 9pm, against BBC Two's Castles in the Sky. ITV appear to have completely given up on Tuesdays, airing Teleshopping at 9pm, it's almost certainly an error* but still funny. *Or a documentary on teleshopping, which is almost as bad.
Oh and X Factor returns, 19:45-21:00 on the Saturday, Celebrity Chase before, Through the Keyhole after. Also 20:00-21:00 on the Sunday. As previously mentioned Doctor Who starting at the same time, 19:45. |
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Next week could potentially get worse for NT as it's being shown on BBC Scotland at a later time than on BBC One proper. So regardless of whether last night was a fluke, the rating will still be lower.
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No they won't flock at all as Monday is traditionally New Tricks' best night.
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You've been saying for ages how whatever dramas ITV put on Mondays are DOA as they'll be crushed by New Tricks which gets huge ratings. Yet I don't think that's necessarily the case any more. Sure New Tricks is still a very solid drama that will be tough competition for whatever drama it faces, but last night's result is potentially a game changer and shows it is no longer guaranteed to crush whatever it faces.
Oh, we will see in a few weeks when the likes of Cilla launches on Itv. New tricks will murder it in the ratings. Im already fed up of that Cilla trailer with Sheridan Smith in it singing that god awful song. And Im sick to death of Sheridan Smith constantly being in Itv dramas, she's overexposed these days. Anyways, Long Lost Family is actually one of Itv's most popular returning midweek brands. Last year LLF was doing 5m, this year it was doing 4.5million, but New tricks damaged it to its WORST EVER rating yesterday. Imagine if a normal Itv drama got 5million viewers in that post Coro Monday night lead-in slot, it will end up launcing to just 4million against New tricks. Then take into account the 20pct+ drops which 90pct of new Itv dramas experience, any drama airing in that MOnday 9pm slot this Autumn against New tricks is indeed pretty much DOA.
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Last Monday's overnights... Quote:
Tipping Point 1.81m (21.2%)
The 21st Question 1.71m (14.3%) Judge Rinder 0.87m (12.7%) Tipping Point: 1.88m (21.5%) The 21st Question: 1.73m (14.2%) Judge Rinder: 0.99m (13.6%) Comparatively speaking, Rinder timeshifted a fair bit in comparison to ITV's other daytime shows. |
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Remember that not everyone is interested in New Tricks.
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Well, according to the statistics which I have to hand, New Tricks averaged 7million last year in the overnights on tuesdays. About the same as what it got the year before on monday nights [7.2million]. So not really any difference in the figures between the two years, bearing in mind that last year it lost 2 of its key cast members, that was a very good yoy hold for New tricks.
Oh, we will see in a few weeks when the likes of Cilla launches on Itv. New tricks will murder it in the ratings. Im already fed up of that Cilla trailer with Sheridan Smith in it singing that god awful song. And Im sick to death of Sheridan Smith constantly being in Itv dramas, she's overexposed these days. Anyways, Long Lost Family is actually one of Itv's most popular returning midweek brands. Last year LLF was doing 5m, this year it was doing 4.5million, but New tricks damaged it to its WORST EVER rating yesterday. Imagine if a normal Itv drama got 5million viewers in that post Coro Monday night lead-in slot, it will end up launcing to just 4million against New tricks. Then take into account the 20pct+ drops which 90pct of new Itv dramas experience, any drama airing in that MOnday 9pm slot this Autumn against New tricks is indeed pretty much DOA. |
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Well, according to the statistics which I have to hand, New Tricks averaged 7million last year in the overnights on tuesdays. About the same as what it got the year before on monday nights [7.2million]. So not really any difference in the figures between the two years, bearing in mind that last year it lost 2 of its key cast members, that was a very good yoy hold for New tricks.
Oh, we will see in a few weeks when the likes of Cilla launches on Itv. New tricks will murder it in the ratings. Im already fed up of that Cilla trailer with Sheridan Smith in it singing that god awful song. And Im sick to death of Sheridan Smith constantly being in Itv dramas, she's overexposed these days. Anyways, Long Lost Family is actually one of Itv's most popular returning midweek brands. Last year LLF was doing 5m, this year it was doing 4.5million, but New tricks damaged it to its WORST EVER rating yesterday. Imagine if a normal Itv drama got 5million viewers in that post Coro Monday night lead-in slot, it will end up launcing to just 4million against New tricks. Then take into account the 20pct+ drops which 90pct of new Itv dramas experience, any drama airing in that MOnday 9pm slot this Autumn against New tricks is indeed pretty much DOA. |
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Mate, you need to just read what you write and consider real facts. You have absolutely no idea how NT is going to perform this series nor can you be certain that all ITV's dramas will be DOA. Let's just take a reality check and see how things progress. New Tricks, just may not be the show it once was. Viewers of long established shows don't like change.
New Itv Dramas drop on average over 20pct across their series from launch to end, often more than that. Let's say the best an Itv Drama can launch against New tricks is 4.5million exc+1, a reasonable enough estimate. Take the 20pct drop into account, it would be down to 3.6million towards the end of its run. That is cancellation territory. There is no way an Itv drama from the ones Ive seen lined up for this Autumn will be able to survive against the ex- ratings beast [but still powerful rater] which is New tricks. |
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Well, according to the statistics which I have to hand, New Tricks averaged 7million last year in the overnights on tuesdays. About the same as what it got the year before on monday nights [7.2million]. So not really any difference in the figures between the two years, bearing in mind that last year it lost 2 of its key cast members, that was a very good yoy hold for New tricks.
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Oh, we will see in a few weeks when the likes of Cilla launches on Itv. New tricks will murder it in the ratings. Im already fed up of that Cilla trailer with Sheridan Smith in it singing that god awful song. And Im sick to death of Sheridan Smith constantly being in Itv dramas, she's overexposed these days. Anyways, Long Lost Family is actually one of Itv's most popular returning midweek brands. Last year LLF was doing 5m, this year it was doing 4.5million, but New tricks damaged it to its WORST EVER rating yesterday. Imagine if a normal Itv drama got 5million viewers in that post Coro Monday night lead-in slot, it will end up launcing to just 4million against New tricks. Then take into account the 20pct+ drops which 90pct of new Itv dramas experience, any drama airing in that MOnday 9pm slot this Autumn against New tricks is indeed pretty much DOA.
I think Cilla will flop but I think it would flop wherever it goes though. And what's your problem with Sheridan Smith? Aside from a couple of one offs this is the first ITV drama she's starred in since Mrs Biggs two years ago (The Widower doesn't count as she was only in it for about 20 minutes). So that's not fair at all.But I think something like Grantchester has a perfectly good chance of doing well there. It could still launch well (5m+ potentially including +1). NT is solid competition but not something to run scared of any more. It could be very interesting if ITV put Lewis against it. That could rate pretty well against it and really dent NT (the last series averaged 6.4m against brand new Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys). |
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How did the live feed of Big Brother do last night?
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Everything was down in the 9pm hour last night as every programme took ratings from each other. New Tricks down, Long Lost Family under 4m with +1, Commando School under 2m with +1, Celebrity Big Brother down. Everything was down.
But the other significant rating was Judge Rinder getting 1m. Who still thinks it's not a hit? |
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Remember that not everyone is interested in New Tricks.
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New Tricks returned with 5.8m (its worst ever rating?), over 1.5m down on last year. I wonder who on this thread would thrive on a ITV drama drop like that. Let's think..........................
ITV drama can do well against it and both dramas can pull in over 5m in the same slot. Nothing has to be crushed. |
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Only 5.7 million in August.
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But it has rated higher.
Got better ratings than that in July some years. Says something when New Tricks is seen as disappointing with nearly 6m, The Village would kill for that now. |
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