^^This.

With regards to Tumble, I would defend the BBC's commission because it probably looked a good idea on paper. In the studio, though, the flaws in the format become obvious. Gymnastics is too difficult and dangerous for celebrities to learn in a few weeks and reach the standard needed to make the programme watchable.

The amount of promotion BBC1 give the show indicates that they hoped it would be a grower. The Radio Times front cover for it asked "The new Strictly?"

But it's completely failed to engage viewers even in the slightest and won't be back.

They had Tumble on the front cover? Loyal to the very end.

Indeed, and everytime anyone said it was basically like Splash but without water, the beeb and all involved were quick to deny this, pointing out that it was actually more like Strictly.

Who were they kidding. It was just like Splash, except that got 2 series...

I know more about X Factor acts than I do about Saturday's viewing figures. Autumn has arrived !

As surprising as night following day that it managed to add viewers year-on-year for the series premiere, and it may well keep it up or even increase the gap back to last year. The show has a lot in its favour this series compared to the last couple. I don't really see it sustaining it long term though as it's still a tired format ultimately with more competition than ever before. Rising Star is a turkey waiting to happen as well, regardless of how they schedule it.

I personally want to see something new from ITV entertainment other than talent shows and gameshow revivals. It's all so uninspired and I can't muster any enthusiasm about any of it. Drama in contrast looks strong, factual better than has been the case for some time - but their ent slate is painfully lacking and it shows in the figures with everything down so far bar X Factor which had major investment and is only slightly up so far albeit in these very early stages.

After they shamefully declared themselves a non-runner for the entire summer season once the World Cup ended, now they're back in action I want to see more from ITV than just predictable Saturday night dominance against turkeys like Tumble and moderate performers in the overnights like Dr Who. X Factor did what was expected and hasn't done any more than that yet, and elsewhere in the schedule the response hasn't been too convincing with lacklustre numbers recorded for Keyhole amongst others.

The question is what, though. Quiz shows, or twists on quiz shows, seem to be the safest option but it feels as though the entertainment well as been drained to such an extent they're now taking events from The Games and trying to make whole programmes out of them.

Maybe one of the broadcasters will launch something really obvious which will result in everyone wondering why someone hadn't come up with it before but I cannot fathom what it will be.

Sunday Night at the Palladium although a revival is at least a it different to another gameshow or quiz. However I want to see a fantasy drama series on ITV on Saturdays. I hope this rumoured Jekyll ad Hyde plus Beowulf are on the cards.

August Overnight Average for the Big Three:

Coronation Street: 6.52m
down 1.17m yoy

EastEnders: 5.71m
down 490k yoy

Emmerdale: 5.42m
down 760k yoy

Overnight Average for the Big Three: (Jan-Aug)

Coronation Street: 7.31m
down 910k yoy

EastEnders: 6.41m
down 480k yoy

Emmerdale: 5.94m
down 540k yoy

The game show element only played a small part in the original Palladium shows, their success was based on attracting big name stars from the UK and US.They were always broadcast live whereas the new series will be recorded.The roll call included the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Judy Garland, Bob Hope, Bill Haley, Sammy Davis Jnr,Petula Clark, Chubby Checker.

They could do a lot worse than bringing back Primeval. Now Doctor Who is so unrecognisable from the 'Captain Jack' era, and with Torchwood seemingly dead, the negative comparisons which held back Primeval the first time surely wouldn't be such an issue any more.

Channel5 really are promoting Under the Dome loads at the moment. Must be a reaction to the dire rating it got for its premiere last week. Theyve cross promoted it on Celebrity Big Brother as part of a task and also have plugged it two ad breaks running during CBB as well as countless other ad breaks over the last few days.

Dancc while you're here, do you know if Neighbours will be getting any special airings for the Tornado episodes in 2 weeks? Something like the gas explosion/Kate shooting episodes?

This is my favourite line of the day and very true. Going with Tumble has proved to be a mistake. Low overnights, low timeshift, low consolidated ratings.

Losing our addiction, bit by bit.

Thanks for these, grim reading though even if there is some small joy for Eastenders in having lost the least.

The writing on Primeval just wasnt good enough - it was monster of the week and got tried very quickly.

Losing nearly 500k year on year, when last year we thought it could go no lower is very grim!

Just realised that next Sunday, SCD finishes at 21.15 while XF finishes at 21.05.

That means SCD has a free slot between 21.05-21.15 in order to pull in a big peak when some viewers switch over from XF. So if the tabloids go with the peak figure, which a lot do go with, SCD will probably turn out to be the victor.

Shocked at that Corrie average, really reflecting the quality of the soap currently.

EE figures are also under what they actually should be because of the omnibus issues especially with the Friday episodes.

Weren't they supposed to be doing Jason and the Argonuats as well?

The Beeb have left the door ajar somewhat as Atlantis wasn't very good imo. Only the last two parter of Atlantis even began to look as grand as its story should be. The rest(give or take a sequence or two) was largely faffing about for me.

But just because the tabloids use "peaks" doesn't make it official.

As you didnt like Atlantis series one, will you switch to watching The XFactor? Or will you remain loyal to the BBC despite Atlantis not being as good as you'd wanted?

Right, I'll add my bit, not being a particular lover of the modern ITV. ITV at least spends £ 300 million a year on drama, has some very big shows and doesn't look to formats like Geordie Shore or Big Brother to fill its schedule like other commercial broadcasters. Peter Fincham has at least recognised the downward shift of the channle under Grant Shapps had to end as ratings and revenue were falling.
If ITV overall was to fail, then what would happen would be a fire sale where its most profitable shows would be snapped up by Channel 4 and 5 and the rest would die.

So as you see it one either watches X Factor or watches Atlantis? Do we not have 'off' buttons in Samuel world?

Predictions from me (my predictions include +1)

The Village- 3.4m

Dragons Den- 2.0m

Game Show Story- 3.0m
X Factor- 9.8m
The Great War- 3.7m

Tower Heist- 1.3m

Celebrity Big Brother- 1.8m

Made In Chelsea- 650k

DW went through phases like that and sorted itself out though, ITV should at least consider it if fantasy drama is the route they're going down IMO.