To be fair to Tumble, I think it was two years too late. I think if they had done it in 2012 when Olympics fever was still around, they may have had more success with it. Possibly.
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Originally Posted by Rob1985:
“Dancc while you're here, do you know if Neighbours will be getting any special airings for the Tornado episodes in 2 weeks? Something like the gas explosion/Kate shooting episodes?”
“Dancc while you're here, do you know if Neighbours will be getting any special airings for the Tornado episodes in 2 weeks? Something like the gas explosion/Kate shooting episodes?”
No, it doesn't look like it.
Also from the same scheduling update:
* Body of Proof isn't going on Tuesdays at 10PM as Law & Order SVU is airing there. I think it might be set for Fridays at 9PM. TBC Wednesday.
* Highly likely based on the provisional billings that Love/Hate will be burned off on Thursdays at 11PM after Dallas. Again not confirmed.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Weren't they supposed to be doing Jason and the Argonuats as well?
The Beeb have left the door ajar somewhat as Atlantis wasn't very good imo. Only the last two parter of Atlantis even began to look as grand as its story should be. The rest was largely faffing about for me.”
“Weren't they supposed to be doing Jason and the Argonuats as well?
The Beeb have left the door ajar somewhat as Atlantis wasn't very good imo. Only the last two parter of Atlantis even began to look as grand as its story should be. The rest was largely faffing about for me.”
Although a fan of Atlantis, I do acknowledge that it could have and should have been executed better. It looked rushed, as if to start where Merlin finished. The first five episodes were disjointed and a little amateurish. The series was speedily created to fill the Merlin gap last Autumn and it did, on occasion show.
That said, it wasn't a terrible show. It had some shining moments. Infact, from episode 9 when Medusa became the snake headed gorgon, it really started to find itself. The end of the series was stronger, more flowing and more action packed. I am hoping series 2 follows on from where it left off and maintains the standard that it finally created at the end. A lot of people were unfair about Atlantis. No time was given to it. After 10 minutes of episode 1, posters were saying "crap, what the hell is this".
I'm not going to pretend that it isn't make or break for it this year. It has to at least match last year's ratings or it's out on its heels. But, the BBC can't afford to give up on Saturday night drama, especially as it seems that ITV are now taking an interest in it. If Atlantis is axed, they will need something else to replace it with. just relying on DW isn't good enough.
I'm not sure about Beuwolf. It is incredibly (God, I'm using Samuel's term) niche for a mainstream Saturday night drama. Jekyll and Hyde though should, if done properly, attract a decent audience.
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“To be fair to Tumble, I think it was two years too late. I think if they had done it in 2012 when Olympics fever was still around, they may have had more success with it. Possibly.”
“To be fair to Tumble, I think it was two years too late. I think if they had done it in 2012 when Olympics fever was still around, they may have had more success with it. Possibly.”
That was the idea though wasn't it. It was earmarked for filling the Saturday nights gap after the Commonwealth Games. It's just that the CG didn't really capture the public's imagination so the plan didn't really work.
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“So as you see it one either watches X Factor or watches Atlantis? Do we not have 'off' buttons in Samuel world?
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“So as you see it one either watches X Factor or watches Atlantis? Do we not have 'off' buttons in Samuel world?
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I think Samuel owns a 1953 television that only receives the BBC Television Service and he voted in parliament against the creation of commercial television.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“As you didnt like Atlantis series one, will you switch to watching The XFactor? Or will you remain loyal to the BBC despite Atlantis not being as good as you'd wanted?”
“As you didnt like Atlantis series one, will you switch to watching The XFactor? Or will you remain loyal to the BBC despite Atlantis not being as good as you'd wanted?”
Well I doubt Il be watching XF in full-Iv only ever watched bits here and there-so you needn't worry
Seriously though, if you don't like a BBC1 show its not an automatic conclusion that you switch to ITV. ITV's ratings over the summer rather prove that. And there is also-so Im lead to believe-other things than tele
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Although a fan of Atlantis, I do acknowledge that it could have and should have been executed better. It looked rushed, as if to start where Merlin finished. The first five episodes were disjointed and a little amateurish. The series was speedily created to fill the Merlin gap last Autumn and it did, on occasion show.
That said, it wasn't a terrible show. It had some shining moments. Infact, from episode 9 when Medusa became the snake headed gorgon, it really started to find itself. The end of the series was stronger, more flowing and more action packed. I am hoping series 2 follows on from where it left off and maintains the standard that it finally created at the end. A lot of people were unfair about Atlantis. No time was given to it. After 10 minutes of episode 1, posters were saying "crap, what the hell is this".
I'm not going to pretend that it isn't make or break for it this year. It has to at least match last year's ratings or it's out on its heels. But, the BBC can't afford to give up on Saturday night drama, especially as it seems that ITV are now taking an interest in it. If Atlantis is axed, they will need something else to replace it with. just relying on DW isn't good enough.
I'm not sure about Beuwolf. It is incredibly (God, I'm using Samuel's term) niche for a mainstream Saturday night drama. Jekyll and Hyde though should, if done properly, attract a decent audience.”
“Although a fan of Atlantis, I do acknowledge that it could have and should have been executed better. It looked rushed, as if to start where Merlin finished. The first five episodes were disjointed and a little amateurish. The series was speedily created to fill the Merlin gap last Autumn and it did, on occasion show.
That said, it wasn't a terrible show. It had some shining moments. Infact, from episode 9 when Medusa became the snake headed gorgon, it really started to find itself. The end of the series was stronger, more flowing and more action packed. I am hoping series 2 follows on from where it left off and maintains the standard that it finally created at the end. A lot of people were unfair about Atlantis. No time was given to it. After 10 minutes of episode 1, posters were saying "crap, what the hell is this".
I'm not going to pretend that it isn't make or break for it this year. It has to at least match last year's ratings or it's out on its heels. But, the BBC can't afford to give up on Saturday night drama, especially as it seems that ITV are now taking an interest in it. If Atlantis is axed, they will need something else to replace it with. just relying on DW isn't good enough.
I'm not sure about Beuwolf. It is incredibly (God, I'm using Samuel's term) niche for a mainstream Saturday night drama. Jekyll and Hyde though should, if done properly, attract a decent audience.”
Depends what they do with it I suppose. its a very well known English fable and if executed right, might give ITV a very lucrative brand to sell worldwide.
What about something in modern Britain set in Scotland based on the myths of the Loch Ness Monster. Still continuing the theme of dinosaurs, a spinoff series or similar to Primeval, but tighter script and darker theme (Merlin type darkness.)
A crack in time has allowed a prehistoric monster to fall through into The Loch in Scotland. The reason its never properly been seen is because it can escape back to its original time zone. The main characters (research scientists) can fall through into the world of prehistory and myths of human fantasy and history.
Basically a combination of Primeval, Dr Who, Merlin and Atlantis.
Jack The Giant KiIler?
Does anyone know when ITV are planning to air Beowulf and Jekyl and Hyde? I have the horrible feeling they're going to go the same way as Car Share. I guess it'd make sense to air one around Britain's Got Talent so that gives them nine months to sort it out... is that enough time?
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Does anyone know when ITV are planning to air Beowulf and Jekyl and Hyde? I have the horrible feeling they're going to go the same way as Car Share. I guess it'd make sense to air one around Britain's Got Talent so that gives them nine months to sort it out... is that enough time?”
“Does anyone know when ITV are planning to air Beowulf and Jekyl and Hyde? I have the horrible feeling they're going to go the same way as Car Share. I guess it'd make sense to air one around Britain's Got Talent so that gives them nine months to sort it out... is that enough time?”
I may be wrong but I don't think we've even had an official commission yet for them? I know they were mentioned in ITV's annual report though.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Right, I'll add my bit, not being a particular lover of the modern ITV. ITV at least spends £ 300 million a year on drama, has some very big shows and doesn't look to formats like Geordie Shore or Big Brother to fill its schedule like other commercial broadcasters. Peter Fincham has at least recognised the downward shift of the channle under Grant Shapps had to end as ratings and revenue were falling.
If ITV overall was to fail, then what would happen would be a fire sale where its most profitable shows would be snapped up by Channel 4 and 5 and the rest would die.”
“Right, I'll add my bit, not being a particular lover of the modern ITV. ITV at least spends £ 300 million a year on drama, has some very big shows and doesn't look to formats like Geordie Shore or Big Brother to fill its schedule like other commercial broadcasters. Peter Fincham has at least recognised the downward shift of the channle under Grant Shapps had to end as ratings and revenue were falling.
If ITV overall was to fail, then what would happen would be a fire sale where its most profitable shows would be snapped up by Channel 4 and 5 and the rest would die.”
All depends what you mean by fail. ITV will not fail commercially because the bean counters wont let it but will the direction it is being taken in ultimately produce a well rounded channel with maximum appeal competing across the whole range of genres? Or will will it just concentrate on the demographic it perceives will bring it the greatest reward producing a relatively narrow focused channel.
ITV can be commercially successful and still fail to interest a majority of the audience.
Actually the failure of The Musketeers must be an almighty blow to the BBC. I read recently that it started its life in 2007, where the idea was brought up. Over that time its been planned and written.
I remember when it was announced, it sounded so exciting and I remember predictions of it becoming a huge hit. Since 2007 its been 7 years in the planning and making, only to decline every episode and finally fall below 4m. A massive blow and a huge shame. I loved it. I'm looking forward to the 2nd series.
ITV on the other hand have two long running dramas that they could launch something against, being that both are fairly vulnerable in the schedule.
I remember when it was announced, it sounded so exciting and I remember predictions of it becoming a huge hit. Since 2007 its been 7 years in the planning and making, only to decline every episode and finally fall below 4m. A massive blow and a huge shame. I loved it. I'm looking forward to the 2nd series.
ITV on the other hand have two long running dramas that they could launch something against, being that both are fairly vulnerable in the schedule.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Does anyone know when ITV are planning to air Beowulf and Jekyl and Hyde? I have the horrible feeling they're going to go the same way as Car Share. I guess it'd make sense to air one around Britain's Got Talent so that gives them nine months to sort it out... is that enough time?”
“Does anyone know when ITV are planning to air Beowulf and Jekyl and Hyde? I have the horrible feeling they're going to go the same way as Car Share. I guess it'd make sense to air one around Britain's Got Talent so that gives them nine months to sort it out... is that enough time?”
I expect they will announce it when the scripts are fully edited and they begin filming. As of yet I believe its still in the planning stages. 9months is certainly enough time to film it, but it depends how long they take to get the scripts finished.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“All depends what you mean by fail. ITV will not fail commercially because the bean counters wont let it but will the direction it is being taken in ultimately produce a well rounded channel with maximum appeal competing across the whole range of genres? Or will will it just concentrate on the demographic it perceives will bring it the greatest reward producing a relatively narrow focused channel.
ITV can be commercially successful and still fail to interest a majority of the audience.”
“All depends what you mean by fail. ITV will not fail commercially because the bean counters wont let it but will the direction it is being taken in ultimately produce a well rounded channel with maximum appeal competing across the whole range of genres? Or will will it just concentrate on the demographic it perceives will bring it the greatest reward producing a relatively narrow focused channel.
ITV can be commercially successful and still fail to interest a majority of the audience.”
It is the biggest commercial broadcaster in Britain and its channels attract 20 -25 per cent of the audience. I think since the locust years of the noughties they've tried to broaden their appeal, even ITV 2 isn't as abysmal as it was, but they have a negative image among viewers who still think a night of ITV viewing involves two soaps, some celebs appearing in a reality show and some cheap entertainment.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“It is the biggest commercial broadcaster in Britain and its channels attract 20 -25 per cent of the audience.”
“It is the biggest commercial broadcaster in Britain and its channels attract 20 -25 per cent of the audience.”
19.6% for the entire ITV family in the latest BARB week.
In the same week in 2004, the ITV main channel alone managed 20.0%.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Actually the failure of The Musketeers must be an almighty blow to the BBC. I read recently that it started its life in 2007, where the idea was brought up. Over that time its been planned and written.
I remember when it was announced, it sounded so exciting and I remember predictions of it becoming a huge hit. Since 2007 its been 7 years in the planning and making, only to decline every episode and finally fall below 4m. A massive blow and a huge shame. I loved it. I'm looking forward to the 2nd series..”
“Actually the failure of The Musketeers must be an almighty blow to the BBC. I read recently that it started its life in 2007, where the idea was brought up. Over that time its been planned and written.
I remember when it was announced, it sounded so exciting and I remember predictions of it becoming a huge hit. Since 2007 its been 7 years in the planning and making, only to decline every episode and finally fall below 4m. A massive blow and a huge shame. I loved it. I'm looking forward to the 2nd series..”
I agree about the ratings, and given cast issues S2 is going to struggle further, but it was an excellent show, which could have grown in its second season, given how excellent it was, I do not believe it should be seen as a failure (its not Atlantis)
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“19.6% for the entire ITV family in the latest BARB week.
In the same week in 2004, the ITV main channel alone managed 20.0%.”
“19.6% for the entire ITV family in the latest BARB week.
In the same week in 2004, the ITV main channel alone managed 20.0%.”
Every network has declined in 10 years.
BBC will next year with them closing down BBC 3
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“It is the biggest commercial broadcaster in Britain and its channels attract 20 -25 per cent of the audience. I think since the locust years of the noughties they've tried to broaden their appeal, even ITV 2 isn't as abysmal as it was, but they have a negative image among viewers who still think a night of ITV viewing involves two soaps, some celebs appearing in a reality show and some cheap entertainment.”
“It is the biggest commercial broadcaster in Britain and its channels attract 20 -25 per cent of the audience. I think since the locust years of the noughties they've tried to broaden their appeal, even ITV 2 isn't as abysmal as it was, but they have a negative image among viewers who still think a night of ITV viewing involves two soaps, some celebs appearing in a reality show and some cheap entertainment.”
I would say the reason they think that is because its largely true. I mean 7-9pm Mon - Fri is exactly 2 soaps and some cheap entertainment at least 90% of the time.
What an excellent series The Great War has been. Although its not rated well, its certainly had an impact on me.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I agree about the ratings, and given cast issues S2 is going to struggle further, but it was an excellent show, which could have grown in its second season, given how excellent it was, I do not believe it should be seen as a failure (its not Atlantis)”
“I agree about the ratings, and given cast issues S2 is going to struggle further, but it was an excellent show, which could have grown in its second season, given how excellent it was, I do not believe it should be seen as a failure (its not Atlantis)”
Although it was at Atlantis ratings levels by the end of the series. BTW I loved it too.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“What an excellent series The Great War has been. Although its not rated well, its certainly had an impact on me.”
“What an excellent series The Great War has been. Although its not rated well, its certainly had an impact on me.”
I agree with that - one of the few things worth seeing on ITV recently.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Although it was at Atlantis ratings levels by the end of the series. BTW I loved it too.”
“Although it was at Atlantis ratings levels by the end of the series. BTW I loved it too.”
but The Musketeers was a much better series quality wise, showed alot more depth, much more interesting characters, and showed it had show it had something it could build on in S2, do we really think that of Atlantis?
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“but The Musketeers was a much better series quality wise, showed alot more depth, much more interesting characters, and showed it had show it had something it could build on in S2, do we really think that of Atlantis?”
“but The Musketeers was a much better series quality wise, showed alot more depth, much more interesting characters, and showed it had show it had something it could build on in S2, do we really think that of Atlantis?”
I am not holding out much hope for either in S2 really ratings wise.
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“I am not holding out much hope for either in S2 really ratings wise.”
“I am not holding out much hope for either in S2 really ratings wise.”
Atlantis, should do us all a favor and sink before the second series happens, Musketeers however without certain cast changes, I would think should grow during its second series, sadly im not sure that will happen now.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“Atlantis, should do us all a favor and sink before the second series happens, Musketeers however without certain cast changes, I would think should grow during its second series, sadly im not sure that will happen now.”
“Atlantis, should do us all a favor and sink before the second series happens, Musketeers however without certain cast changes, I would think should grow during its second series, sadly im not sure that will happen now.”
Sounds like they are tweaking the show with a later start time so who knows what will happen.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/m...r-more-3774300
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