Does anyone have the official rating for last week's episodes of Doctor Who and The X Factor (Saturday) please?

The problem which the BBC has with competing against Downton Abbey is the same problem Itv has competing against many of the BBC's top rating shows like SCD/Call The midwife/Countryfile etc. Downton Abbey is an absolute monster among OAPs, getting shares in excess of 50pct for that audience. The majority of people who watch tv are OAPs so when BBC1 puts a show against DA, it is very difficult to compete against DA because it is so prolific in that age group. I guess the BBC are now trying to air a younger skewing drama against it to find an alternative audience. They may do ok with it, I agree about 4m would be fine. When a show has a stranglehold on the pensioner audience so much, it is almost impossible to get a good audience against it because attracting young audiences at the magnitude required to achieve 4m+ is twice as difficult as the equivalent kind of rating with an old skew.

Downton Abbey looks to be strong again this year. If TXF holds up and doesn't decline like lat year it could boost DA even further.

The trailer on YouTube has beaten last year' equivalent by 20,000 views so far with 2 weeks still to go before it starts. By the 21st September it should be up to around 800k-1m views.

I do very much agree. DA has around 3.5m of a older age skew, but it also has a 1m+ 16-34 skew. Like Bake-Off it skews all ages.

Its even more difficult for a commercial channel to do against BBC1. ITV would never get 4m for a drama against CTM, might it did against Musketeers which skewed younger.

I think DA will be up if not level with last year. ITV also have an advantage that with Corrie down they can promote Grantchester to the DA audience for 2 weeks before it starts. It should appeal well to the older audience.

Wonder where "Doctor Who" will be in the overnights tonight. Its not a show the fans are watching live.

Will they be out yet?
Anyway DW after 5 days stood at 7.179m.

They've both had seven days so I would have thought so. Thanks for that.

They'll be out tomorrow.

New tricks is fine it's an 11 year old show in a tougher slot. Consolidated ratings are fine. There are a few more years left in it yet but it's no longer at its peak. If it stays at five million- Friday nights would be perfect next year.

Thanks.

BARB set the rule: timeshift is allocated to the most recent linear showing; on-demand goes to the most recent linear showing on the channel normally most used by the viewer. If the broadcasters want to distinguish showings to force a viewing to be added to a particular channel/showing they have to put a special inaudible code in; BARB can't make them. I'm not sure but I think the BBC may have been the only ones to do it, and it appears they've now stopped.

Either that or it's the fact that the omnibus is now late on Friday nights on BBC One that has fouled up what was working well when it was on Sunday afternoons and/or on BBC Two, as I speculated in this post, citing trickytree:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=3257

I'm going to stop thinking about it now; my head hurts!

Viewing up to 7 exact days (7 x 24 hours) after the transmission will count, so for Doctor Who, up to 19:30 tonight (or it might be the end-time of 20:17; I can't remember). That's why it will be tomorrow when the figures are released.

BIB # 1 - rzt's demographic table including Our Girl, broadcast on 24 March 2013:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...=#post64997212

BIB # 2 - perhaps a better way of describing it would be "more-complementary scheduling" rather than "tougher competition". It may have a better chance of holding up with a younger skew, but likewise Downton would then be less affected by it.

EDIT: Just had a quick look, and the 16-34 skew for Our Girl was 15%, in line with Bang Goes the Theory, F1 highlights and A Question of Sport. Youngish - it compares with 10% for The Syndicate. Surprised Crimewatch was as high as 19%. I suppose part of it depends on what the competing programmes skewed like. Bang and AQOS were probably opposite Corrie and therefore perhaps skewed fairly young almost by default, although certainly I can see that they do have appeal to a young demo (particularly Bang).

OK, thanks. I think I've got my head round that! Now to consider whether to add an 'official rating' programme onto the Ratings Game.

I'm predicting 5.5m for Doctor Who overnights. It was a lot lighter in tone this week so more chance of casual viewers I think. Obviously it will timeshift to 7m+

So much easier for non series viewers to dip into it, this episode felt a lot more family friendly and less complexed for drifting viewers. Good episode for the good of the show.

What's tonight's episode of xfactor like? Still full of joke and comedy acts like last weeks episodes?

The X Factor much improved this week. I'm predicting a rating between 8.5m-9m.

Will catch up with DW later. I predict an average of 5.4m

I assume Tumble is still on next weekend, those who are still watching it!?

Nope, its got some very strong singers tonight, particularly males.

Dunno if you will like "Who" this week, we seem to be on different planets regarding episodes!!

What do you mean?

Don't go making more work for yourself, Fudd!


The final's next Saturday at 6, H, don't be late.

I don't watch by the way.

You weren't keen on "Deep Breath" were ya, but liked "Into The Dalek"!!

Why would that make any difference to the overnights though? People don't know what an episode is like until it's been on so casual viewers can't possibly know to tune in for an episode on the basis that it's more suited to them. Not that I don't agree with you though, very jokey episode which made for a nice change.

Oh damn!! I'll be in Timbuktu at that time. What a shame!